My mother has lived with us for 3 years now. She has her own apartment downstairs with a private entrance. She has severe hearing loss and hearing aids do not help much. She has a curvature in her spine, but was fine until she fell over 3 years ago and now does not trust her legs to hold her up. She has all but completely withdrawn from any interaction with the outside world. She will go to the grocery store weekly, but not much of anywhere else. My husband and I ask her continuously to go places with us, but she refuses. She uses her hearing as an excuse. She is afraid of everyone who comes to our house, and will leave the room if anyone comes over. She sets in the dark most times and does not talk to anyone except the dog. I'm an only child. I don't know what to do to help her. Should I try to contact her doctor and talk with them about how she chooses complete isolation?
He said he hates me for watching my mother abuse him and not doing anything about it. I have never seen my mom physically hit my dad. I have seen her push him or shake her fist at him. I dress and bathe him every day, so if he had bruises I would see them, not only that I am not out of their site at all.
I went in the room and closed the door, so my poor little one wouldn't hear and told him that I was sick and tired of taking care of someone who doesn't appreciate it. I told him to call his fair haired boys on the phone, and see if they would take care of him. I told him that he throws to many fits and that I didn't appreciate him masturbating in my house and that he soon was going to go.
He stayed up all night pouting in his chair and I didn't care. Didn't even get up to check on him. Today, I wished him dead and didn't talk to him at all and am not ashamed to admit it. How I wish, if I were sick, that I would have a lovely place to stay, 3 meals served to me and someone to bathe and dress me and complain about it. Talked to my brothers today and told them what happened, said they would listen to me, but couldn't help. What else is new.
Donna, you are right to tell MRN run, run as fast as you can. That lady is young yet and she will be stuck with that forever. Non negotiable, my ass. I would give him non negotiable. My husbands mother is sick with alzheimers and he can't take his turn taking care of her because of me. I feel guilty about that, but can't handle any more.
Love you girls,
Marylynne
Sounds like your husband is being unfair. From what you said you took your mother in law in away from her controlling husband and for her to get better. Her husband is gone so one problem solved. Is she better? I agree with Donna, time for mother in law to get her own life. She is too young to be with you. She can worship your husband from her own place. He is married to you. He needs to be in alliance with you not choose his mother over you. We all know that the women do much more then the men in this regard. So most of the work is on you. If he is so hellbent on living with his mother he might find you gone. You all can help her get settled..etc..and help out when and where you can..but what he is asking is not right. He is enabling her. Good Luck!
Hey Girls, hope you are all doing alright!
Hugs
MRN, these situations need boundries, my husband basically doesn't do any of the care unless I need him too. In this case from what you said your husband is taking advantage that he has you to watch his mom.
How is your relationship with her? Is she ill? He should be at her beck and call and maybe he would understand better. If she is healthy enough to be on her own then so be it.
I have been biting my tongue because my mother has been saying the most rediculious things. Marylynne, it did good for you to get things off your chest. We are dealing with adults and sometimes because of the behavior we treat them like children it is very confusing. have a better day oxoxox Judy
Marylynne, sounds like your dad's tantrum was equal to some of the ones this old woman throws. i am so sorry he waited til you were ill to act up, but that is what they do best, catch u at your weakest moment and act like spoiled children. Judy, what kind of rediculous things? bet my mom could top the best of rediculous.
Cindi, hon, you are still uplifting us all, and we love you for it. Even though you have so many problems of your own. I wish i were near you, you make me feel good. maybe tomorrow mom will be more with it, and i wont be faced with more of her idiocy.
I cannot believe this is the same person who i once went antiquing with, shopping with, on vacations with. That lady was very nice, agreeable, lovable. This lady here is a stranger, and i dont like her. She is controlling and mean. she complains nonstop every day. back to my first letter in this saga, HELLLLLLLLLLLPPPPPPPPP
luv you gals, Donna
Know exactly how you feel. What happened to the parents we once loved. I can't stand to look at my Mom and Dad. I actually hate them now and am not ashamed to feel that way. I have a right to feel whatever I want, and I am not going to feel guilty about it any more. I want my old life back, my old house back, my friends, my community, everything I lost in the storm.
My 12 year old noticed on caller ID that someone was calling that my mom didn't want to talk to. She asked Maw Maw, do you want to talk to this lady before I answer it? My mom said Whisper, she can hear you. My daughter just rolled her eyes and said Maw Maw has lost it. Took her furniture shopping. Of course, Her back didn't hurt, as long as shes doing something she wants. Don't understand, All of this drives me crazy.
And Donna, you are right, Cindi, is so uplifting. I wish I was like that. To involved in feeling sorry about my own life.
Love you girls,
Marylynne
Today was a long hard sad day. Gloomy weather and gloomy mood. Thank you Donna and Marylynne for your compliment. I am glad you find me uplifting sometimes. That was the nicest thing anyone said to me today. I don't see how I am uplifting when most of the time I am venting/complaining. Went for a drive tonight 8:30 after mother and dad went to bed. I felt closer to my mother today. We both started our day sad in regards to my sister. Her boyfriend called and asked us to reconnect with my sister over mother's day because she was deeply depressed. He broke off their engagement 2 weeks ago. We had been keeping away from my sister. She has some type of mental illness and denies having a problem and she is obscessed with my late son. She claims to be able to talk to him at any time and she does. Long story. We are worried about her and I am ultimately afraid of her taking her life. I feel as if I cannot go through this again. It all feels too familiar. WE have asked her to get help, told her she has a problem but refuses and denies. My brother says she needs to crash before she gets help. I told him that is what happened to my son and eventually he took his life. I said to this day I still feel somehow it was my fault. I really can't go through this again. My mother is broken hearted too. Been crying and talking to husband and even mother. I am afraid of her taking her life, or of me ending up having to take care of her too. I am going tomorrow to talk to some counselors. I asked my husband and mother when did it all go so wrong? I wonder to myself. I prayed.
Marylynne, you had every right to tell your father how you felt about the way he was acting and treating you. He needed to know how his behavior and actions made you feel. You are better then me I bathed my dad 3 times a week. I figure he doesn't do anything to get dirty and his skin might get too dried out..etc. You are the only other person I know that bathes her father. You are a good daughter no matter what they say. Donna, it is hard to feel anything but annoyed when you have had too much on your plate for too long. Your mother is getting more forgetful and confused. I know the feeling when you want to pull each one of your hairs out of your head one by one. When you don't trust yourself to be able to stand one more thing they say or do. That is when I know I have to get out! ASAP and even then when I get home sometimes that feeling is still there. I do feel better after posting you all. Still trying to get over this bronchitis...Take care of yourselves.
Cindi
I think today is going to be a long one have to go see the friendly ppl at the pharmacy again more drugs for dad. later oxoxo judy
Judy, it sure does take a saint amount of patience, doesn't it? They forget, or insist on things sometimes we can take it better then others. The other day my dad's alzheimer's kicked in and he was looking for his wallet. That set off red flags for me. I finally told him my brother has his wallet because he no longer needs it to drive and he doesn't handle money. He finally was satisfied with that explanation. I get anxious when he gets that crazed look in his eyes and wants to know where something is etc. Afraid he won't accept the answer and then I have to get innovative and make up lies etc. He is usually a quiet man but when he gets like this he gets agitatated. Gonna be a long day here too. I have two counseling appts. I never have done that before. Turns out they were both available sooner to me and on the same day! Gonna be a dishrag when I am through. Mom knows she will be alone with dad for about 4 hours total..2 hours and then 2 hours. Getting out of the house by 10 is gonna be rough on me. Enjoying a nice cup of tea now...ahhh...(laughing)...Dad is in bed still..Mom is up and in her room now. It's egg day today so will get breakfast going soon. Might have to wake Dad up early so I can be on time. My daughter's beagle, Oliver is here with me. He comforts me. Dad likes him too. My mother has a bird that stays in her room. It helps her to keep her busy having to take care of it. It is a pampered bird! His name is Pretty Bird. Hopefully going up north to see daughter on Saturday. Trying to get myself well enough. Hard with all this emotional stuff though. Will fill you in more on sister another time. Sun is coming out, thank God.
Be well, take care and lots of love to you all...
Cindi
There is an endless pile of this stuff that keeps growing. I am tired, frustrated, somewhat depressed, angry, negative, hopeless, wondering what they told my neighbors today (ex. bills), and / or what trivial item today's / this week's battle will be about. The arguements follow the same pattern. They tell me they are mad / disappointed but will not tell me what it is about only that I "should know". Then they don't want to talk about it, at least not with me. They have phone calls with friends and family about how, for example, wasteful I am in very general terms. Then a week later I find out it was because I threw out a perfectly good light bulb, or a completely brown banana , or ..............
I want to move out, BUT IT IS MY HOUSE!!!
Cindi, hopefully your sister will see a counselor soon, sounds like she is in great need.
Was wondering if there were any men out there doing the same thing we are doing. I completely sympathize with you. I am just like you, I do not speak my peace, just wonder constantly what there mad about for the day.
If it is your home and they are living with you, for whatever reason, it is time to tell them that it is your home. It took me quite a while to stand up, especially to my mother, and tell her this is my home and these are my rules. My mom and dad live with me because we all lost our home in Hurricane Katrina. It took me 2 years and a nervous breakdown to finally say, this is my home. Now I have bought another home and am building them a separate space for them and they are paying for it. Hope this settles my problem, but yet to be seen. Welcome and feel free to vent any time. I am a 46 year old female, with one grown child 20 and one 12 year old, both girls. I was the baby of the family and my two brothers do nothing. We all know what you are going through. Do not feel alone.
Marylynne
Welcome Sylow. I am sorry you are here with us yet I am glad you are here at the same time. Read your posting and am wondering if your parents are slightly off? I learned that if the people you are around do not make any sense and make you feel crazy then most likely THEY are crazy. As far as going through your things how do they justify that? Key locks sounded good to me..wonder why they didn't work. They need to respect your privacy. You can't control them but you can control what you do. What actions you take etc. After telling them that it is a non negotiable unless they are crazy they need to stop or if not you can put a stop to it. The hygiene thing not sure about that one. Can't make her be more hygienic and it only affects her mostly. I would warn family and friends that they are going to hear bizarre and untrue things from your parents and if they hear something that is alarming come to you for the truth otherwise disregard what they hear. If they are upset at you you cannot do anything about it unless they tell you. If they tell you that you should know...how could you...you don't read minds. If they tell you what they are upset about you can listen and maybe do something if not..they tell parents that you cannot fix what you don't know..and you don't read minds so..sorry they are upset and that's it. They sound as if they think you are incompetent and that they almost take care of you? Wanting to find fault with all you do. My counselor told me today that she was glad that I am trying to take care of me while taking care of parents. She said, Cindi you say this and that but what about you? How does Cindi feel? Anyways..I guess the bottom line is for us to take care of our parents if we want to as best we can..at the same time taking care of ourselves and if the two are conflictual, intolerably conflictual then we need to lay down the line and say I love you I want to help, I want to take care of you but I need this in order to do it..otherwise I can't, I am sorry. Easy to say, huh? Hard to do....but we must, or else we will be good to noone and as resentful as hell.
Time to go...
Oh, I called my sister and left her a message regarding mother's day and her coming over and us trying to mend the relationship...(what I learned today from my session)...
Hugs
Cindi
Good Luck! Hubby just called said he had a fever at work and took the tylenol I gave him. Made him an appt to see the doctor tomorrow at 1:45 (he moaned and groaned about it)...told him he just finished antibiotic yesterday should not get a fever again...it could be viral and we relapsed but have to make sure..esp since he is driving 5 hours up north on Saturday then 5 hours home on Sunday..and we are moving our daughter from one apartment to another. The fun never ends around here! Helppppppppp get me off of this merry go round just for a while please!
Cathy
You are not failing your father. You sound like a very caring and loving daughter. You are giving him the best life you can give him. It is hard to see your parent decline. Just be glad that he is just declining now. He seems like he realizes that you are his savings grace and appreciates it. My father had a stroke 20 years ago, and I have been watching the decline for a long time. My husband wasn't so supportive of me staying home to take care of my parents, but after the last 2 years of his parents being ill, has come to be supportive of me now. I think you have a lovely family life, Keep up whatever you are doing, it seems to be working for you. NO GUILT!! There are few people like these ladies on this website in this world and I am proud to know all of you.
Love,
Marylynne
Best Wishes
Cindi
Cindi
I have great friends in my neighborhood. I can vent to them(they don't understand none of them live with a parent), but they listen. They all have advise, again they don't live with him.
I hope you all have a good day. I will be thinking about you
Cathy
Best Wishes
Cindi
Love and Hugs....sorry for the longggggggg letter and boring details of my life..just had to vent I guess...
Cindi
Cathy
Dad's sleeping meds have been making him act different. he says he's sleeping through the night but I think they are knocking him out too much, he said he saw little ppl in his room and his feet were wet to his ankles. We tried to tell him it was the sleeeping pill and he still thought he saw them. We were fighting about his eating habits again I see it declining. He said he hopes he makes it to his birthday June 30th.
Cathy how about depends for you Dad so he doesn't wet the bed or bed pads those may help. like babies that don't come with instuctions neither do the elderly. We do what we know is best and they can't expect more from us. I don't feel guilty about going somewhere they had their time and we deserve ours.
Sylow, what is the reason they came to live with you, are they ailing? I leave my Dad a pile of washcloths in the bathroom and that seems to work and I take the one he used away. Alot of behavior has to be dismissed just because we know how things really are and we know what kind of ppl we are so don't take too much too seriously. As long as noone is getting physically hurt but I would take the car keys away and only let them have them when you are around. Take care everyone, lets make a date where no matter where we are from we have a day out. Happy Mother's Day to the best caregivers in the world oxoxox Judy
Judy, We have tried depends, other brands, with inserts, without inserts, we have started having him use the bathroom every 2 hrs. It seem to be helping.(maybe? One morning dry. We will take the little victories.)
I have never been a patient person. I'm learning. To go anwhere we have to start getting ready an hour earlier. AGHHHH.(that is what I yell in my head)
Do you guys ever feel like you have A.D.D.?
I start a task, he calls me, I do whatever he needs me to do, them I stand and think what was I doing? I walk through the house tring to remember. I walk into a room and have no idea why I'm there. I have to tell people what I'm thinking when I think it or I will forget. Even if has nothing to do with the conversation we are having. Somedays I feel like I'm loosing my mind. I can only imagine what you all go through on a daily basis.
I hope you all have a happy mother's day(even those of us that are not mothers)
We all have the responsibility if one.
Cathy
I have been helping take care of my dad for 20 years. My dad had a major cerebral hemorrhage and was paralyzed, my mom does not drive. Her world fell apart after my dad took ill. I took over little things, at first, and then over the years took over everything. My mom and I lost our homes in Hurricane Katrina, so when I and my husband bought a home, we moved them in with us. My dad has the garage fixed up as an apartment and mom stays in her room in the house. My dad has had several more strokes and now has little to no speech. When mom tries to understand him they fight and it goes on and on from there.
Yes, I do get to get out the house for 2 hours a day, but my 80 year old mother follows me wherever I go. She is very mean and doesn't appreciate anything. My dad gives me trouble too, but not as often as her. I can leave my dad for short periods of time, if he stays in his chair, while I am gone and promises not to transfer into his wheelchair. I tried the baby monitor thing for a while, but my husband could not sleep with all the noises my dad makes at night. So I turned it off and said come what may. He has fallen a few times, since they live with me, but hasn't broken anything of lately.
I thought I had it bad before the Hurricane, traveling back and forth between my house and my mothers house to do whatever I had to do for the day, doctors appts., pharmacy, etc. until the Hurricane hit, and they moved in. I had it super easy before. I cannot believe the difference of taking care of them in my own home. At least before, I got to go home at some point, even if it was late in the evening. Sometimes I slept there for a week at a time, if one of them was sick, balancing my family and theres, but this is pure torture. Of lately, I am close to a nervous breakdown, so husband and I bought a house closer to where we use to live before the storm and is adding on, with my mom and dad's insurance money, an addition that is wheelchair accessible and that I can close them off by a door. Hoping that this will give me some peace of mind. I know what you mean when you say about ADD. My mom calls me from across the house 100 times a day. I have to stop, go in the room, ask her what she wants, do it and then try to figure out what I am doing. She is 80 and has taken several falls this year and seems to be getting very forgetful. She is the type that knows every thing and no matter what you say, she is right. Speaking up for yourself, does no good with my mom, she will turn it around to you being the guilty one.
My 20 year old is coming home from college and I am actually trying not to put her back in the mix. She is very hard to get along with and is use to living with a boyfriend. Told her that will not happen at my house and if she wants to do that, she needs to find an apartment that she can share with him. Can't take much more havoc in my life. My 12 year old daughter is just hanging on by a thread, not use to this way of life for the past 2 1/2 years.
Sorry to give you my life story, all the other girls know it. Glad you're only 37, you have a chance at a regular life, before you get much older. You are a very good, kind hearted daughter, like the rest of us. I have heard there are just rewards for people like us, just don't know what they will be and when we will get them.
Happy Mother's Day to you and all my wonderful friends.
Love, Marylynne
Please do not apologize for sharing your life with me. When I first visited this website I was feeling very sorry for myself. After reading about all of you I realize life could be sooooo much more difficult. I try and remember that when my dad is driving me crazy.
A year ago we found out that he has a triple A (abdominal aortic aneurism). Very big and very bad. He went for a cardiac catheterization and they also found that he needs a triple bypass. Dad also has atrophibulation. In heart health this is a nightmare. Some doctors say surgery, some say too risky. He is sick (haha) of doctors. Dad is a walking time bomb.
Before the catheterization you would have never known he was ill. The doctors released him from the hospital. He came home and that night fell. He had aminor heart attack(they think). After a week in the hospital they put him in a nursing home for 19 days for rehab. He is stronger now. He is hoping the surgen will give him a green light for surgery. Rehab after surgery will be another nightmare for all who care for him.
My Mom died when I was 4. It has been my dad my brother and me for so many years. It is all I know. My Aunt and Uncle offered to take my brother and I after my mom died. My dad said they are my kids i'll raise them. In 1974 there weren't that many men raising children on their own. My dad is at the age of most of my friends grandparents. He fought in WWII in the navy. He has always been my hero. That is why this is so hard for me.(sorry had to pour my heart out a little, with some tears.)
I am very fortunate to have the family and friends that I have. I hope to include you to that list as well.
Thanks for listening.
Cathy
You have a lovely father. My father was also a lovely man, guess after taking care of him for so long, I have just gotten bitter.
As far as heart terminology, know all about it. My dad had a major heart attack before his first stroke. They found that he had an aneurysm on the heart caused by a heart attack that later caused his stroke. The surgery was to intense for him to withstand, so they sent him home saying that he was a time bomb, like your father. He lived that way for 13 years, taking several falls, until he fell out and and had to have emergency bypass surgery. He recooped from that to have atrial fibrilation and so on and so on. In 2000, he fell, broke his pelvis and had another stroke and was hospitalized for 6 months. My children have both lived in hospitals, because of my mom not driving. I had to be there all the time. It is a sad world when you can't trust hospitals to take care of your loved one.
You were so very lucky that your dad took care of you and your brother as a single parent. That is hard for men. You have great love for him and he for you. After 20 years of this, I just can't imagine how much more I can endure, but know that God is only supposed to give you what you can handle. Every time I say I can't go any more, something else happens, So I better shut up or knock on wood.
What did your Mom die of when you were 4. That is such a tragedy and How old is your Dad? All the best on this Mother's Day.
Love, Marylynne