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Jeanne--My SIL and the Girls did this for my brother and it was beautiful. The granddaughters sang a song to grandpa as well. Yes a break down is possible but
this is your final farwell. God bless and do what you feel is best.
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Jeanne: I will be holding you in white light on Sunday. Wis we could all be there with you.

Lisa: Hope things go well for Ray this morning. Let us know.

Joan: I've got your back too. Hugs!!!!!
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Joan~Are you experiencing the feelings or do you actually relive the event as though it is happening now? I know the feelings are intense enough to cause emotional stress without having to virtually relive it. I worked on Thanksgiving Day and my boss was on me all day long. Everything she saw me do she criticized how I was not using my time effectively and so on. It brought back those feelings of my mother constantly criticizing me and I was weepy for a few days after. I don't know if it is the same thing as what you are talking about or not. I am sending you Hugs as my heart goes out to you!!

Jeanne~The service will be a beautiful tribute to your husband's life and your marriage. Sending you and your family hugs and will be thinking of you!!
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Jeannegibbs! Girl you rock!!!! You will make coy proud!!!!

Still sitiing here with ray. I was able to hook up to the dr office wifi. Whoda thunk??? They just took him back for the fourth time. called Mary to let her know dr still hasn't gotten all the cancer. Need more tissue. She proceeded to tell me how sorry she is and she hopes I'm ok. Still makes me catch my breath. It took a few minutes talking, then she remembered to ask about ray. So I just repeated what we talked about. This is so dam scary. Love to all!!!!
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Joan -my sister and I talked about what us sibs could of become if our Mon did not take out her anger and disappointment on us growing while thinking she was a good mother -I just tried to survivie and get the hell away from home-she was easier on our brothers-my emotions are all over the place since she died-the social worker at our senior center said she would talk to me if I wanted to do that-I might someday but it is or was what it was-I have no real knowledge why she behaived as she did-at least at the funeral noone came up to me telling me how wonderful a person she was-which I was afraid might have happened so I did not have to deal with all of that which I had to endure when my husband died-not my friends but people who lived in the town he grew up in-I just did not say anything but I know some people rewrite history as my sister said about my aunt and my mother did that also-I almost fainted when she said that she must have been a good mother because we all turned out ok-but that was because we were strong and turned out ok in spite of how she treated us and I think we had people in our lives who believed in us. I don't hav flashbacks or nightmares like I did after my husband died but I did learn from you and others how a narcisic person can effect us greatly and I know she was narcisic and the way she acted is what they do and how much they harm their children.
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Thanks, jeanne. It is amazing, and I agree that memory is awesome and myaterious. I have good memories too, from childhood, but not many from my family. Yes, Lisa's charges will remember her kindness. The adults in our childhoods leave lasting impressions. I may look up a PTSD specialist. It would be good to get rid of them, if I can.

Leading the service? Way to go, Jeanne! You are many good things, and one of those is courageous. My prayers are with you and will continue, especially for Sunday afternoon. This is a very special time for you and for all your family. I know you will do an excellent job, as you have all along. Breaking down is OK.
diavalon -sounds like it was lovely
cat - I know and thanks :)
sharyn - this time it was the feelings triggered by G walking past me in the hotel to respond to a coworker. His company discourages partners from coming along. He had already asked his boss, who was not in favour, but G decided that we would take the chance, as his hours have been so long and we have had little time together. but play it safe, so I mostly stayed out of the way. However this happened and it brought up all the feelings of rejection I had that summer. I am glad I realised. I had my bags packed and was ready to get a room of my own before it clicked. I knew he had to do what he did, and in no way does he reject me, and I knew I was overeacting - that is the symptom - overreaction. I think what you experienced was the same kind of thing, otherwise you would be able to brush off your picky supervisor more easily. Other times, I can almost hear mother's voice, but I wouldn;t say I have ever completely relived an episode with her, though I can recall scenes. With Gordie, I get flashbacks of scenes and feelings.
Lisa, it is sad and scary. Hope ray is OK,
austin - I can imagine your emotions are all over the place. Glad no one came up saying how wonderful she was. Talking with someone may help. It was what it was, and it is what it is. You still have the experiences/memories to deal with, and the harm from her lifetime. It doesn't go away when they die. I am sorry you had such flashbacks and nightmares after your husband died.

On a light note, I had something I wanted to tell G when he was at breakfast with his team the first morning, so I wrote it in a note and asked the head waitress to give it to him. It was a compliment, so he read it and smiled (I hid behind a post and watched, and felt like a teenager). later he told me he got teased by the guys who said he had ony been there over night and someone was sending him notes already. The waitresses were intrigued, so I had to tell them and they were very friendly, and one asked if i was coming back, and made note of my name. The hostess and I talked clothes and what else but -nail pollish!!!!!

We are at my friends now, had a lovely supper - trout fillets covered with walnuts and banana!!! and a great veggie stir fry. Niagara Falls tomorrow, a "block party" Saturday, and home Sunday. Hopefully a slide show of Barbados sometme, and a game of bridge. Great having a little holiday with my man.
Love and ((((((((hugs)))))))) to all Joan
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I love all you wonderful women. Each of you are so strong, special and compassionate. I am just honored to be in your presence.

Love you, Cat
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Joan, sorry to hear about your flashback and am glad that you figured out where those feelings were coming from. I have a friend who is dealing with PTSD from being in the Vietnam War. His therapist wanted him to picture in his mind being an observer of the war instead of a participant in the war. I'm not sure what purpose that was to accomplish. Maybe her point was for him to objectify his experience of the war like we do when we watch a movie? I don't know. I do know that my therapist had me to chose a very pleasant scene in my mind to be able to escape to when trauma would take place. (I chose one of my favorite and most peaceful places to be is on the ocean shore.) I would google Rapid Eye Movement Therapy for PTSD. There is a good site with that title which might give you further ideas. Love, Prayers and Hugs for all. Good nite!
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I'm amazed at how strong you are, Jeanne. I'll be thinking about you Sunday.
Austin, Sharyn, Joan, Lisa.... You all remind me of a picture I saw of a pretty flower growing out of a crack in a sidewalk - not a nice way to grow up, but the end result is beautiful despite it.
Lisa - how are you holding up with the fil?
cmagnum, I always tell my kids to step outside of themselves to see a situation the way someone else would. I do it to try to make them aware of other people's feelings, but you're right, it would encourage them to be objective about their own actions too, as well as being aware of how it effects others. Hadn't thought of it that way. Thanks!
Cat, sending you some love.
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Jeanne, I sure hope you post your words from the memorial service on cb. It would be so wonderful in some small way to celebrate coys life with you. It's just a thought.
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Jeanne, you're on my mind this morning. xx
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Me too, Jeanne. I thought about you last night, considered the time difference, and hoped you were getting a good nights sleep. With you in spirit today.
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Jeanne as everyone has said, you are a very strong woman. My thoughts and prayers are with you, also.
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Me too! Me too! :) holding you close to my heart today Jeanne!
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I'm not saying my kid and his friends did this... but SOMEONE went out in the middle of the night... You know those lighted reindeer everyone seems to have in their front yards.... well, it seems that all of them in my neighborhood were put in mating positions... LOL!
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Jeanne, hope you are doing o.k. Hugs.
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Lisa, I read on here you are a royal watcher; me too. KATE IS PREGNANT! At last! The royal baby watch begins....... Speaking of babies, Judy what will you do with all the baby lighted reindeer??????? (Wonder how you store those?)
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Hahahahahaha! Nice one, Beanie! I should be irritated with the kid, right? I don't think I could keep a straight face to reprimand him though. I hope this is as bad as his antics get.
Cat, got your question about my avatar... its "green man". This one is supposed to be a winter version. I'm trying to be festive... but maybe not so much? A wreath better? Ugh. I have no decorations up and no real gifts bought, except for one thing for each kid's stocking. Green man is about as festive as it gets for now.
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Green Man is cool! He looks like a demented Santa Claus. Perhaps he forced the people you may or may not know to rearrange some members of your neighborhood's display of lights. (This is also the face my husband and my cat get when they are doing something silly and get caught.)
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Well, green man can also be used as a symbol of fertility, so maybe you're on to something there, Beanie... One of our neighbors must not be home, because his lights are on, nice and bright, and there's a pair of very naughty reindeer all lit up in center stage in his yard, as big as life, and they've been like that all day.... I might have to get a bucket of cold water to throw over there...
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Thanks for thinking of me today friends. I woke up this morning feeling awful. Just didn't want to get out of bed, and also had GI problems. Ugh! And out the window snow was accumulating like crazy on the shrubs and street and driveway. I kept thinking, gee, maybe the funeral home lady was right and it was crazy to attempt to manage the memorial service myself. And then I thought, no! I'm a KAW, and I can do this! Convincing my gut was another matter. I tried making myself a soothing cup of green tea -- and poured cold water over the teabag. :( In the shower I couldn't find my shampoo (cleaning lady moved it). I got dressed (borrowed one of Coy's leftover Depends for the occasion -- better safe than sorry) but absolutely could not find my new black dress shoes. Sigh. The bedroom has been reconfigured twice since I bought them so maybe it wasn't just me and they really are lost. Meanwhile I'm getting lots of calls from people who were going to come but who 1) couldn't get out of their driveway, 2) knew it would take too long to get here, or 3) actually started out but had to turn back because of whiteout conditions. (For those of you who don't live in the Winter Wonderland, whiteout conditions are when it looks like someone dumped a gallon of whiteout -- remember that from days of typewriters? -- over all the windows of your car.)

I got to the funeral home an hour early, as requested, to greet early guests (ha!) and my son-in-law and grandsons shoveled the parking lot. (The plowing service had done it an hour earlier but the lot was completely covered again.)

We got started a half-an-hour late and, of course, with a much smaller attendance than expected the day before. But the service went without a hitch and it was really very nice. Eight family members spoke about their dad/grandfather, including two who couldn't be there and had their statements read by someone else. We had 4 pieces of music. It was really very touching. I had asked a friend from my support group to be ready to take over reading if someone choked up. It was nice to have a backup plan, but it wasn't needed. There were a few pauses but everyone could carry on. We also read a nice tribute from his Mayo Clinic dementia doctor.

My sister was at my house setting out an absolutely amazing spread. We were expecting 70 to 100 people so she made food for 100. There were probably 50 to 60 at the service, and many of them headed back through the terrible weather immediately and didn't come for refreshments. Let me tell you that there is A LOT of food in my fridge this minute! And amazing platters of cookies and bars that I'll think about freezing tomorrow. (Or maybe I'll just eat them.)

I ordered 4 peace lilies and 4 Christmas cactus to decorate the service room, and then for each of the children to take home.

I went to bed before the last guest left. I was just too exhausted to stay on my feet. But after a few hours nap I'm up again nibbling. Think I'll go check how much shrimp was left ...

The funeral home has a slide show on their web site. You could search for Dignity Memorial and then enter Coy Replogle and MN to find his if you are interested. Here is the key: When he is young and with a young woman, it is his first wife. When he is old and with a young woman it is his daughter (or sometimes a granddaughter). When he is old and with an old woman, it is me!

I think I hear a brownie calling me ... gotta go now.
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Jeanne, aside from the weather, your GI prob and losing your new black shoes, it seems like everything went smoothly. Sounds like Coy was very well loved, with that many people speaking - sounds so personal and well planned and executed. Thanks for the info for the slide show. That first picture, of Coy with the pipe in his mouth and the old cars in the background, even the look on his face - its like a Hollywood poster. I hope you're well today, and got some sleep.
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Jeanne: With all the glitches, you carried it off. I'm sure Coy was smiling down and saying, "That's my amazing wife." I viewed the pictures and thank you so much for making them available to us. Coy was a handsome man. You are a beautiful woman, inside and out. I hope you are getting some rest and feeling better. Send love and comfort to you. Cat
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Well Jeanne, you know how bad my computer skills are, but by golly I will find the slide show. How wonderful for you to share it with us. And you always make us KAW so very proud.

Before I go beanie, did you see on the news what those djs did? And the nurse committing suicide over it?

Love you all! Lisa
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Did everyone get an Amazon Gift Certificate from AC? I got one and Judy did, others also. Hugs, Cat
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And, the Amazon gift card worked. Used it within 5 minutes of getting it. I had a few things in my Amazon basket, just waiting to be purchased. The timing was perfect.
Good to see you back, Cat.
Lisa, did the nurse commit suicide? They were saying her death was being investigated. Did they think someone murdered her? How awful for those dj's to get a laugh at her expense. They're not laughing now. How sad.
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Hi all - back from the trip - in body anyway. It was great seeing the falls and my long time friends. We picked up where we left off after 18 years. I am tired still, but, more than that, feeling some depression coming on which probably relates to mother's latest.
Two weeks ago mother was evaluated at her ALF and told she could stay, and was happy about that. Yesterday she emailed me saying she was going to move, and a friend was arranging it. This friend knows a nurse who runs a small "home", I gather - (reading between the lines) where she looks after about 6 people. Mother has met the nurse and was very impressed. Apparently this nurse looked after the friend's boyfriend's wife until she died. Mother does not know where it is, or when she is moving, or much about it at all apparently, but seems to trust them. I know that Mother panicked when she knew she was going to have the evaluation, wrote me, and, no doubt told the friend - that she (mother) had no family, was going to be evaluated and put into a nursing home. I do not have contact with this friend, though have asked mother for it. I have POA, (which includes medical) but since mother is still considered competent, I do not exercise it. Mother has known this lady for many years, but has not had a close relationship with her for quite a while. (They had a bit if a run in years ago). I have offered mother help with the move and asked to be put in contact with Christine, the friend, so far without success. Of course, mother will keep control anyway she can, which includes keeping information from me. I have no idea what kind if facility it is, whether she will need much furniture etc. She has already arranged for someone to place her paintings from Haiti, and has told the ALF that she will be leaving. I am concerned as to whether this is a good move. The last time mother arranged something for herself, she was "snowed" by someone who promised good care, but did not deliver. I don't think that these people have an agenda in terms of personal gain, though I can't be sure. They certainly don't know that she has Borderline Personality Disorder, and I am sure that she has told a convincing tale about being abandoned by family, and the ALF wanting her to move out. I can check out the latter by a phone call to the manager. It may be a good move for her, as, at her age, having a registered nurse around would be good. Any time I have talked with her about a facility with more care, she has dismissed me, and basically said she would get the information herself. What concerns me is that these people have no idea what they are getting into. I know perfectly well that it will not be a bed of roses, and though mother is pleased with their help right now, she will certainly find things that displease her in short order. Even at her age she is entitled to make her own decisions, and in many ways I am not unhappy to have someone else help her with these. On the other hand, I don't want to be saddled with the fall out, if it does not meet her expectations -which, no doubt, it won't. She is in the "honeymoon" period with this friend right now, but that never lasts. She is getting her "narcissistic supply" of attention. I suppose as long as she is decently cared for, I need not be too concerned. Oh well!
Any suggestions?
jeanne -you did so well - wonderful photos - I especially liked the ones of Coy with the babies and grandbabies.
got my gift card too and haven't decided what to spend it on
Lisa -how are the pil, and your beautiful daughters? Congrats on the weight loss. No more news from the DQ I gather
(((((((hugs)))))) - hope everyone survives the up-coming holidays
check in and let us know how you are. Think I am hanging up my blue tights and tuna cans for a while, and hibernating. G left for more meetings the evening if the day we arrived - feast or famine here in terms of time together. I came home to my messy house, and must get to throwing out more stuff. If I empty out an area I will have to barricade it off, as G will fill up any available space. Could be worse. We are planning a dinner theatre experience for our Christmas thing if I can get tickets for the right day. Love to all Joan
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Joan, dinner theater sounds like a perfect holiday treat. I hope you can get the tickets you want! And I hope you can convince yourself not to be too concerned about your mother's possible move. Since there isn't much you can do anyway, fretting about it is a waste of energy. If there is fallout after the honeymoon is over you'll cope with it then, hopefully with as little investment of your energy as possible. (Just get out the tights and tuna cans again and do your best.) Hugs to you, dear lady.

I wish everyone a happy holiday. And if that is too much to manage this year, I wish you minimum stress and maximum calm.

Love, Jeanne
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Joan: Glad you are home safe and had a good time. Love the dinner theater idea and hope it's works perfectly for the two of you. Loved Jeanne's advise to you concerning mom.

Jeanne, I wish you all blessing for this Christmas and the new year.

Love you both, Cat
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Thanks Jeanne for the advice, and Cat, and Jeanne for the support, It was the kick in the codependency butt that I needed. Yesterday, coincidentally, I was compiling some info on detachment, and it was ringing in my ears as I wrote this morning; however, that was where I was at. In retrospect, obviously, I need to maintain serious distance from my mother. Even this small exchange has had a negative effect on me. Yes, there is little I can do, except keep my distance, and not get sucked in to whatever ensues in the future. I have responded to her positively, and lightly, and will leave it at that.
Dinner theatre should be fun -The Buddy Holly Story! I will not be able to eat much, but G can tuck in. Their spread is great.
The tuna cans and blue tights are back on, moose meat is simmering on the stove, as well as a ham bone for soup. Today it is minus 15 F, and I don't want to go out. Tomorrow should be warmer.
I am pleased that I kept up with everyone sight seeing, though my gut acted up a little, but nothing that lasted. It was cold outside and inside - my friends keep their house at about 65 degrees, Brrrrr! G wants to go south in February, and I need to get my passport in order to go with him. It is one way of surviving these winters. Take care all - Love Joan
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