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Cattails, I loved your knee-jerk. I had a whole raving response typed up to the oblivious poster and then deleted it and figured I'd let a veteran handle it, or ignore it. And, there you were, making me laugh and snort root beer up my nose (that burns like hell, btw). Lisa, I'm so glad you posted about your day. Your neice and nephew sound like great people. I hope they feel better after telling your mom how they feel. Sounds like it could be cathartic. I'm interested in her reaction too. So..what's your plan? Are you done? Finally?! Time for LI ice tea? Or 2? Or 5?
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Hi Lisa: Glad to hear from you and happy things were accomplished. I get a little confused in the nieces and nephews area. I want to see if I have this right. Your niece is the sister of the evil nephew? And she is offering to take your mom to his house next Saturday to see if your mom can reclaim any of her missing belongings that he picked up from your place and was supposed to deliver to her new abode? Let me know if I have this straight.

By the way, what was your mom's reaction to their comments about how she has treated them all their lives?

I also want to make a comment about my previous post regarding your mom going to a warmer climate. It was just a knee jerk reaction to the oblivious poster who preceded me. I thought it was funny and didn't think it would offend you or those who have been involved in this thread from the beginning.

Nevertheless, let me tell you what I really think about God's forgiveness. I don't know why some people are born into this world with a mental defect that allows them to torment and warp the poor children that have to endure their sickness. It's sad to think that their mental defects can be genetically transmitted to some of their offspring, obviously you are not one of them, and that the treatment those same offspring receive from that parent reinforces the negative DNA. And it gets passed down, through reinforcement by cruel bad behavior and some genetic weaknesses.

In the end, however, I have to believe that God can see someone who has been given to many flaws and that he can feel some mercy for them. It's not for me to judge which climate she will ultimately end up in. My comment was just a flip reaction and not heart felt.

I am always relieved to know that I am not God. I figure all of this shit is his problem. That's why he gets the big bucks.

Just wanted to offer that clarification. My weird sense of humor just got the best of me.

FYI, I'm not sure your evil nephew has any of your mom's stuff. I think he probably already hocked it, so I'm with you and not sure of the benefit of a Saturday visit.

Love you, Lisa. Hugs, Cattails
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You have shown them true courage and stamina, they love and respect you... kids watch, not always listen... so they watched what you put up with, and how you put a stop to it... they are very proud of you, and another blessing, they'll take it from here... you are free. God bless you Lisa, what an awesome woman you are...
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Thanks cat, things went great today. Niece and I went in at 9:30, had place done by noon. Doug and nephew came at 12:30 and put her computer desk together, furniture moved, computer and tv up and running. The best part of the day? My niece and nephew were able to tell her exactly how they have felt the way she's treated them their whole lives. They spoke very calmly. Almost quietly? And told her the only reason they are here? Aunt Lisa. The very grandchildren who never asked you or expected anything from you. And your granddaughter Jen who gave up her time to move you in one afternoon and put the bed together your sleeping in. I let them have their say. my niece offered to pick her up next Saturday and take her to her brothers house. She will call the police to meet them there to get the rest of her things. I told her she docent need to do that. She said aunt Lisa you've been cleaning up this families messes for years. We'll take this one. Don't know quite what I think about it
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Lisa: Hope things went ok today. Thinking of you. Cattails
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I WILL PRAY FOR YOU! MY MOM IS A SWEET LADY I AM BLESSED! SHE CN NO LONGER BE ALONE AND WE NEED TO GET HER IN A NURSING HOME ASAP!! SHE IS STUBBORN AND WILL NOT LEAVE THE AREA SHE HAS LIVED IN ALL HER LIFE SO WE ARE LIMITED!! I SURE HOPE TO GET AN ANSWER SOON BUT I FEEL FOR YOU AND WILL PRAY DAILY FOR U!!!
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... it's almost over ... it's almost over ... it's almost over ...
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Go Lisa, clap clap, Go Lisa, clap clap, Go Lisa, clap clap....... love and hugs.... LI tea is waiting at the finish line....
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Dang cat! Snicker snicker snort snort. Love it!!! And no Judy, no mutation. For the first time in my life I think she finally knows I'm done with her nasty verbal abuse. And my niece? I can never doubt how much that girl loves me. As bad as my mom hates her she's going with me so this don't drag out and I can be done with it all today. I told mom yesterday she better sit down and read the schedules for grocery day and get signed up. She will be completely self sufficient. They even have housekeepers that she can pay 10.00 an hour to clean her little apt. She asked if I'd actually make her pay someone. Ummmm....yeah. Finish line is hours away!!!!
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Hahahahahahaha! OMG, Cattails! I just got diet rootbeer up my nose from laughing at your comment. Holy crap. You have a way with words. xxoo!
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luvpeople: I agree with you that God does have a good place for Lisa's mom. The climate will be much warmer. In the meantime, however, Lisa has managed to find a place for her mom to live.
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Elisa, It is going to work out for the best. I am new to this website , I am dealing with my mother at home. You will find the best place. I would advise working also together with a free agency entitled A place for mom. They were very helpful to me in helping me to find a place for my dad. I encourage you to pray and turn to God because he cares for you and your situation. He helped me to find an affordable NH for my dad. He managed to do it within a few days. He also will help you with your mom . He has a good place for her.
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Hi Lisa: I had to laugh a bit at you telling your mom how the cow eats the cabbage on her attitude. I bet she didn't call you fat today.
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Sounds like you had a busy day. Whoa! Telling her to change her attitude worked... but what was she like when you were out shopping? Did she mutate? So, after tomorrow afternoon, you should be done. I had to look up pogo. Online games! Well, that should make her happy. I'm glad you told Jane that she needs to get an outside party for poa. Whew!
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I get to chapel house this morning and Lordy was she in a mood. She thought she would sit and start cling all of her drs with her address change. Nope. It's time to go get this apartment stocked. I wasn't there 20 minutes and already the F word had come out of her mouth 5 times. I told her there better be a quick attitude change by the time we walk out that door or I'm marching straight to the office and explaining why I won't be taking you to fill up this bare ass apt that should have been done. It worked!!!!! We saw Jane the social worker on the way out and she said oh Lisa, Delores, this should be so much fun. We both looked at her like she's deranged. My niece is meeting me here at home in the morning and go down there to finish up. Then Doug and my nephew Jason will be there at 1 to move the furniture where she wants and put her computer table together and have her computer ready for pogo.com. I waited till we got back today to inform Jane that she will need to arrange an outside party to take poa if she can get her to agree to it. I don't see it happening. But what ever.. It's in your hands.
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Good decision, Lisa. You know that old saying, "In for a penny, in for a pound." It's a slippery slope of responsibility. Glad you are free of it and your MIL gave you some good advise about the living will.

Going to the lake......going to the lake.......going to the lake......... YEAH, summer is just starting. Love, Cattails
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Way to go Lisa! I poured my coffee, sat down at the computer and came directly here to see if you'd posted. So glad you did. Like what I read! You've got it under control. The lake.... you're going to have a blast! You've become part of my morning ritual and the story has been a wild ride of ups and downs. Its got a great ending though. I've grown fond of all of the characters too. Well, except for one! xxoo
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Woo Hoo, Lisa!. Way to go!!! Those kind of protections are great.
"Lake, here I come!" :)
Wash away the dust and the dirt. Breathe deep. Know you have done all that you can do, and more than you should have done. Enjoy your life, now freer than ever before. You have earned it and you deserve it. Hugs to you and all your family. (((((((((((((((((hugs)))))))))))))))) Joan
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I'm doing it. I'm telling the woman no. As for end of life? My Mother in law said I need to tell them they need to have her sign a living will like they have so none of their children have to make that decision for them. As for anymore theft? I took care of that at the bank 2 years ago. That's why she will have any money stolen from her account this time refunded to her account. And then he will be prosecuted by the bank. She would never follow thru with it. Ok, was having a few brain farts yesterday. Doug said he thinks when she got me in that office I was feeling mad and overwhelmed. Can't believe I was even considering it and any more meetings I need to tell her we need a 24 hour notice so that gives us time so he can arrange to be there. Regardless, by bed time Saturday night she will be completely self sufficient. AND WE ARE HEADED TO THE LAKE BY THURSDAY! yeeeeehaaaaaaa!!!!
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POA for your mom. This is your brain on drugs. Say no. The social worker wants a go to person. NOT GONNA BE YOU.
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POA? Just say NO.

In any case, the social worker can't offer you that role. Only your mother can. Somehow I don't think that is going to happen, unless she figures out a way for it to make you miserable.

Just say NO.

...it's almost over ... it's almost over ... it's almost over ... it's almost over ...
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Lisa: Just because you are someone's POA does not make you responsible for their debts. What it allows you to do is sign for them when they are not able ( ie getting them into hospital, handling prescriptions, any variety of things. You can handle her finances when she wants you to do so or when she is not able to do so. Having a medical POA also lets you make end of life decisions for her if she can't speak for herself. You are in no way responsible for decisions she makes or responsible for her debts. The problem is that as her POA you are the go to person for all issues. If that is not something you want to do, then have the county appoint a guardian. Your life will be much simpler because you will not be called all the time something happens. In your case, I'd stay away from it only because it limits your contact. Otherwise you are to go to contact person for every time the shit hits the fan for her. People will expect that her POA wants to be involved in her life.
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Totally agree -say "No" to POA. You don't need it. I am so sorry that you had this extra stress. The social worker should have known better. I am regretting agreeing to do it, and mother still manages her affairs just fine. The problems will come when/if I have to take t over, and I have been thinking about alternatives. I hope here in Canada there are similar options as in the states.
You have gone the extra mile and then some - and need to not do it anymore. Let the social workers figure it out, and deal with her. Let it go!(((((hugs)))))
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Diavalon had a great idea - go get a hug from MIL. You deserve a good cry. The social worker didn't have the facts, and now she does, and I'm so glad you put her in her place, too. Well done. You've handled yourself so well, and its okay to turn into a big teary mushball now, don't you think? Let it rip. Better than bottling it up, right? Maybe your mom could sell some of those 1000 pairs of shoes and buy another leather jacket :) And, cattails is right, I hope the social worker knows that you aren't going to be involved in your mom's life or dramas now. It'll be okay, Lisa. Its already looking up. Got to focus on the positive now. She's out. You've done so well. Look at how far you've come.
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Diavalon, thank you! I will check into that tomorrow? I wonder why she didn't tell me that was an option???
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And cat don't worry, she's been left in no doubt about my not being involved in her dail, weekly, yearly life. And she told me she thought it was strange the nephew handled everything. She only talked with mom on one occasion. It was the man who hooked up moms tv that went to her and informed her there was no furniture or the nessasary items to live on her own. He told her she has nothing. She wasn't talking to mom till this afternoon. sigh...another couple days for those long island teas.....
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Lisa, not only is my husband a social worker for many years but is also the public guardian in our county, they deal with finanical matters as well as the person if the court orders them to make the decissions needed financially and medically. Ask the social worker to work with the county on this issue and leave you out. Ask her to make a referral for the conservator. With the history between you and your mother please please contact the local public guardians office or at least an attorney to guide you. So many of the social workers and guardians will ask if you are willing to take this on. Be honest and tell them NO!
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The woman wants me to take poa and god help me I just don't understand what that all entails. We have worked so hard all our life for what we have and yes it was an obsession with me to give my daughters a good life. Beth has worked since 14 with summer jobs that was lined up with ky school for the blind. ( one eye) and Jennifer worked for a friend at a tiny Italian shop that was only open 4 hours during week and 6 on weekends. ( so proud when she bought me my seraphn angel) so they were not raised spoiled. We did a great job raising them. Sorry got off track. I told her I will not be responsible for her financially. She's trying to tell me I can do this and not be constantly in her life? At her age there will be decisions that will have to be made? Does this require an attorney?? I told her she's gonna have to present me with a lot more than her word to convince me this is in no way going to put in jeopardy what Doug and I have.
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Lisa: I agree that the social worker didn't handle things in the best way. She has no doubt been listening to your mom today. Now she knows and in the near future, you will probably notice that she has developed a twitch. Snicker Snicker Snort Snort.

Hey, I wasn't too far off about nephew and the pawn shops. Well, the good news is that it's summer and your mom can save a little cash between now and fall. I don't feel sorry for her. If she wasn't such a hateful person, she might be able to access her brain instead of her anger.

Don't go shopping with your mom alone this weekend. Have Doug go with you. Get her chair and table and then kick her miserable, stupid ass to the curb.

Make sure the social worker understands you do not want to be involved in your mom's problems or her life.

Love and Hugs, Cattails
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Please try to be good to yourself and plese don't leave Doug out of the loop. You have a great family and although we as mother's, wives and daughter's we think we can do it all, we can't. Call one of them or your MIL and have a good cry. That social worker needs a reality check. She should have checked things out before confronting you. My husband is a social worker and the one thing I have learned from 35 yrs of his experience is that you never want to confront a family member without having your facts straight. ( You never know when you will need that family member on your side). The social worker should have read the notes and the referral from CAS. Lisa have a good CRY and pick yourself up again, do what you need to get done. I would tell the Social Worker not to call you again unless the sky is falling and we are all going under. God Bless
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