She has dominated her childrens' lives with little concern for anyones' feeling but her own. She is now in a wonderful assisted living and her dementia (I think) has illuminated her personality into a person who I can no longer bear to be around. She has again managed to alienate everyone around her with her insults and insensitivity. She is nasty and uncooperative with the aids (who are wonderful) And complains, complains, complains about everyone, everything and blames my sister and myself for the air she breathes. I am sick of her and I don't want to visit her anymore and don't feel that my adult children need to be manipulated like I was and be around her negative attitude anymore. I hate feeling obligated to have her at my house as I have every holiday of our lives and force my children to "tolerate" her for my sake. The guilt is unbearable but I feel that now being 60 years old I would like to feel that this person does not dominate my whole life. I would like to have a happy holiday for a change and have my children WANT to come home (without Grandma always there)
There has never been any pleasing her before and now she sends me into bouts of depression that I have a hard time shaking. Am I alone? I feel like a selfish person but I don't like her now and never did before. The guilt is killing me.
She has begun another phase of "accusations from a far" I call it. She makes accusations and I get contacted and go thru the motions of clearing up a mess, all with no contact to her. Latest one was 2 weeks ago. I think she may be out of punching bags, as she has just terminate her home health care-again. I am just waiting for the state to step in, she lies, picks up the phone and spews this awful life crap she wears like a crown. She didnt learn her lesson when the state of florida stepped in b/c of BS story she passed around. Sold the house and moved here. THAT was a horror show! 90 and homeless, living in hotels- 2 of which she had to leave at management request.
My advice is no contact. I couldnt get that thru my head for decades, nothing sunk into my head. As a daughter- an only child- the correct roll was to be there for an aging parent, no matter what. Thru this website, I learned I was playing by the rules for a the usual family. Family- a group of people, related by blood or marriage, who loved each other, however perfectly imperfect. Finally figured out that MY definition was far from the situation I was molded in and those rules did not apply. I stepped up, the worse it got. Everything had a negative consequence. The only thing we can do is remove ourself from the situation. Realize it is NOT GUILT we feel-It is us, trying to do the right thing and being rejected -vilified-back into the low self worth they prefer for all. Its the comfort zone of a narcissist to bring you to your knees and make sure you KNOW are nothing. THEY TAKE ZERO responsibility for anything they do or say EVER. Victim only status. She was pushing me to the end point and the more energy I put into her, trying to change things only changed me, my life, health, wallet, marriage. There she was- changing my heart and soul, and I let her . People like this, its in their bone marrow, its not blood in their veins, its venom. We cant change that. The day of my final departure, it was a 3 hr screaming battle. So much for the sick 91yr old lady pass she ALWAYS gets. Her mouth is a machine with no brain stem attached. She had no hesitation reminding me I was nothing more than a blood clot that survived. How's that for ya at 91. I could list some of her one liner's that would knock you off your chair, trust me.
The choice is ours, become them, or go forward, live before we die. I am 62 and broke, I put it all into nothing and got exactly that. But I did have the pleasure of WALKING AWAY for her to live in her universe of one. My life has value, even if my bank account doesnt. Im starting over. I will promise you this, keep the distance, it wont be long before you hear yourself laugh. You will sleep, feel lighter, do things...it just happens.
Is that kind of move something you and your husband are considering or might consider?
I care for my husband age 72, and am increasingly frustrated by what has been the result of his increasing deafness. Sometimes it is funny, sometimes not. He also had stents inserted about three years ago. I miss then conversations we had. We eat in silence.
why? Because he is my carer for PD, cooks, takes me out every day for a coffee or an adventure. I speak too softly for him to hear! Am starting speech therapy.
I am anxious that this handsome man who loves me so much continues to be as positive and loving as he has been.
i have two daughters, the eldest of whom it could be said she hates me, loves her dad, and my younger daughter loves me but is quick to lay down the law with me. When I, as opposed to my husband, need a care facility, I can see it accomplished with speed... I feel for you. I don’t hate my eldest but am more careful around her, watch what I do, don’t visit unless invited... and we see our granddaughter once a month or less... I know my husband used to meet her occasionally for a coffee, used to feel jealous but no longer. My youngest loves about 185 miles away but we see more of her! The opposite to your situation.
You could always try insisting your mother be treated with respect, and watch them pick their jaws off the floor. If said in front of her you will either win or lose big time... sometimes change is a great catalyst for more.
i sense you are a kind person...
Any suggestions welcome please!
The only reason I say that is because when I call her on it you can see by her face she knows she's done/said the wrong thing.
I can't tell you how many vacations I've had to leave early not to mention ask time off from work to address confusion she's had over bills/checking account questions that turned out to be nothing. She refuses to give me power of attorney or add my name to be on her accounts so I can call in no matter where I am and address any issues she has. The last time I drove 9 hours to her house from where I was on a business trip because she was concerned that she was being double billed on utilities and she had received multiple bills (nope...that wasn't the case after all) and the first thing out of her mouth was "did you forget to put on your makeup?" I've been chewed out by her home nursing staff over stuff she says happened but didn't. We also found out recently that a lot of stuff she told us about her upbringing and early life wasnt entirely factual. She always talked about being homeless and having horrible abusive parents. I had questioned it when I was a teenager because if her mother was so horrible, then why did she have no problem letting me stay with her for weeks on end? Drama stories about how she changed a tire on her car when she was 9 months pregnant She didn't learn to drive or get a license until I was 8 Just stupid stuff and she's still doing it.
Only lately have I had the nerve to stand up to her. When she made the makeup comment above I said "It seems you have your finance issues resolved. Have a great day" and I walked away and drove back home. If they act like children...treat them like children. I refuse to let her talk to me like that anymore. I have also touched base with her neighbors and home nursing staff to ask they call me first to verify what she's said before taking action or forming an opinion.
In short, she gets back what she dishes out as long as I know she knows what she's doing....and...yeah she does.
For years, I had talked (begged) them to get their affairs in around and to move into town (luckily finances aren't an issue). She told me that no one was going to tell her what to do and then told relatives that she wasn't dead yet. My brothers and i hired housekeepers and sitters. She fired them. She then faked having a stroke and was taken to the hospital. When she was to be discharged, she told the nurse that none of her 4 children would help her and she had no where to go. I live 2 hours away so talked to her every day and visited every other Sat. The nurse called Social Services who then called me and said it was being escalated to ensure there we weren't abusing my parents. I had to leave work, drive 2 hours, get her and my father into assisted living.
My father hated it so went home. My brothers hired sitters for my father during the day and one of us stays every night (one never stays). They are local and since I live away, I take weekends. I get off work Friday, drive 2 hours, take care of my father, leave Sunday evening, drive 2 hours home, and then go to work Monday. I work 7 days a week for nearly 3 years. My brothers cover for me so I have a weekend off every 3 months. I take my father to see my mother every Sat and Sun when I'm there. My mother won't speak to me and blames us for taking our father home. She tells relatives that I never visit. She acts like she can't hear me but can hear everyone else until she gets angry. The staff at the facility are complaining about her. She is healthy and mentally sharp. I realize that caring for my father became too much for her but she won't accept outside help. My brothers will not visit her anymore since she is so hateful to them. Luckily she is kind to the grandchildren and great grand children. I can't sleep, cry often and suffer from depression. I am missing my own family and friends. She will likely live for many more years (10+). I feel very guilty because I want it to be over and don't want to ever she her again...but I have to take my father to visit her. I have told my husband that if I die before my mother, I don't want her at my funeral.
I am a 58 year gay man and has been with my husband for 30 years. He is amazing and is supportive of what I'm going through.
I do want to put my feelings down however.
We as humans have to care as best as can for ourselves. When I feel guilty and because of that feeling choose to help someone or do something I am sure I put off a feeling of anger. Sometimes my anger comes from "why should I" sometimes it comes from "Well no one else is going to help". Then what I think is the best, "I just don't want to!" There are many things in life we don't want to do, go to the Dr. the DDS. Sometimes going to work. But we do them anyway, and at times helping our parents will be one of those things. And I think I can truthfully say even if we love them or not.
Unless our children want to help, I don't feel they should have to. Their time of choice will come soon enough with us. Unless it is not legal and or we will be doing harm we have choices.
Talking to a mean mother on the phone, "Sorry mom, I have to go now." Christmas? ? Take turns with siblings, if you don't want a turn, offer one of your siblings something to take your turn. And I don't mean something like "I will pay your way there." Family feelings last a long time and the feeling of being used is a very hurtful feeling. If you wouldn't like it, why would you think they would. There is also the other side of the coin to, your mother may be kinder to you than one of your other siblings and you don't mind.
As for feelings of guilt, anger, selfishness, ect. I feel, and you may to. NO ONE can change those feelings but us. I really had to think about this with myself. When I told my friend I felt guilty for not going to be with my mother on a Sunday, she ask point blank, "What do you think anyone can do about how you feel ?"
So if your not going to do something, allowing yourself to be ok with your decision, that is the only way to care for you.
Caring is a hard job no matter who or what it may be we care for, parents, childern, pets, ect. I am at this point in my life trying to help care for my parents, a elderly uncle and aunt, we a elderly ill friend. I'm 63 and I promise I am not saying any of these things lightly. I am tired and depressed, sometimes more than other times. Coming here and seeing how others feel and deal helps me.
I pray truly for all who are trying to care for someone else and themselves. May God bless you for your kindness.
For years I heard her complain about her unappreciative mother, my late Grandma. Grandma lived to 95. She was very independent, healthy, had ample funds, needed very little assistance until the last 6 months of her life.
However she may have treated my mother (which I did not personally witness) she was very kind to me and we were great pals. I miss her.
My own mother just told me that she appreciates all the caring and nice things I say and do for her even though I am “a pain in the neck”.
I have many struggles and neither of my parents help me. I live far away and all I do is try to listen patiently with respect and try to help as much as I can from afar.
So now I am a “pain in the neck”. No particular reason. Just no filter on what the woman says and she just lets fly. I find these remarks injurious and exhausting. I told her that was a mean thing to say and she went on and on about how I am not perfect. Wow!
I try to keep contact with her to a minimum. She says a lot of mean things and it is very hurtful to me. I know
she is coming from a difficult place but I am not Superwoman. My parents divorced when I was was
young and both of them gave me a lot grief - for my entire adult life.
This escalated nastiest when I am trying to be as helpful, kind and positive as possible is a little too much for me. I let my mom know that saying I am a pain in the neck is mean and please do not say that.
I just check out from her from time to time. When I speak to
her on the phone she always has some critical follow up text message she sends me. So I have gotten around to just sending her text short text messages, as
much as I prefer speaking with her. Less “ammunition” for her to use against me. I do not point our her faults (she has many), only remark if she makes a nasty comment about me in particular.
She is twice divorced and is
quick to point out what she perceives as people’s shortcomings and is combative. Needless to say most people do not appreciate this. It is no wonder she is alone in her old age.
The irony is that she explicitly expresses that her mother was “so mean” to her. She does the same. She learned nothing from that experience- except how to be mean.
I have 5 siblings. I have no idea what she says to them.
I have no kids, no husband (never married). I am just trying to keep my own head above water. She wants me to come visit her. Apart from the fact that I cannot afford it, I do not think that I could psychologically, emotionally or physically handle it. My brother offered to pay for a trip for me to go visit her, but I declined. I need to focus on taking care of my own problems which are numerous. I had many older relatives I just loved spending time with. They cheered me and I cheered them. I am not a selfish person but my mother seems to repeat the pattern she expressed she had with her own mother with me.
No thanks. I just can’t do it.
You have just described my entire life ... My mum dominated me and my dad all my life ..now 87 she is even more unbearable .. Your not alone i hope you did go on the holiday with your children and have a lovely time
Best Wishes
Yes there usually are certain memories that stand out in the backburners of our mind.Only to seemingly flare up when we least expect it, only to sour the moment or suddenly drift a dark storm over what would otherwise would've been a nice ending to a day. Sure life is unfair, so to speak of, but it is fair in that when the sun shines, it does so on all, both the right and the wrong, the good and the bad. And so it is when it rains well. If a parent happens to be as you describe, take a moment and ponder their life. What was it like when she was young and growing up? Your Grandparents; What were they like as her parents? What kind of upbringing did she have? Was she hurt by a young boy during her adolescence, or spurned by a young man a little later in life? What was she like as an mature adult before you came along? WHAT HAPPENED WHEN YOU CAME ALONG? Understanding your Mom just a little bit more might help you to discover that she is not so different from you except for that one moment in her life that left her in so much pain. So much so that she did not nor could she not let it go. And so it now rears' it's ugliness in the form that your experiencing as her child. Mathew12:33-37
I get it.
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Remember
these women were first born to a generation of men who hated women and wanted a son. Or had a son and looked down on there daughters. That can't be ignored. Of she's hateful bet you her father couldn't stand her.
I am the full time caretaker for my mother who also (as we have put it for years) "does not play well with others". Since I care take I have not had one holiday or family activity/outing without the invitation stating I am to bring our mother. For years. I actually have started to despise the holidays and will only participate in the ones I can't get out of.
I would also ask if there is anyone that could do an evaluation and prescribe something to help with her aggressive personality. I don't like to push medications but if it can calm the lashing out I'm sure it would be a blessing for all involved.
I had a friend go on and on and on the other day, and finally she said "Do I smell the odor of burning Martyr here?" Your mother has done enough, it would seem to me, to your life. Are you willing to give the rest of it over to her as well?
Not everyone is a good person. Not everyone is deserving of our constant care and compassion. Your first job is to give yourself a decent life. Your second is to make a decent life for your own significant other and your own children. Respect is owed. Caring for her is not. That would be a gift. A gift you choose of your own free will. Or not. I am so very sorry you are going through this, but you are going to have to make some decisions for your life; please get professional help with them.