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Way I've seen that hatchet throwing things to. That does look dangerous.

Breaking stuff sounds a lot more fun.
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Nacy ,

I agree .

The alliteration “ Rage Room “ makes it catchy .

But it’s a controlled smash room .

The thought of those hatchet throwing places to me is scary . You throw hatchets at a target on a wall I think , like playing darts . There is one by me that is BYOB. That’s a bad combination , booze and hatchets.
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Way, Oh I totally agree way, rage would be when you break everything in you kitchen and realize after you have to clean the mess up.

Controlled anger can be therapeutic
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It is satisfying to smash something .
I did it a few times after particularly bad days with my mother.

You smash it you throw it away . It put closure on the day .

I would like to try the smash room for fun .
And I should really clarify my last post . I don’t think I ever approached the emotion of “ Rage “ . It was more anger , sadness , grief and stress, depression .

Rage is more violent , loss of control .

I was very in control when I decided to take an item to the garage to smash a few times . I had read it can be calming .
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Alva, you are an amazing caring person, who has saved so many lives , even the stuff you say on this forum gave me so many, light bulb moments. And to the people on this side of the line that takes all the responsibility on themselves. I don't know what we would do with out you here!

So try not to beat yourself up over this. We all know what that kind of stress does to are health.

Also I'm with you there on wanting to just let things go. I'm tired of anger, I don't want to be mad or annoyed or angry anymore. I'm learning that art, but it takes practice. I've let go to a high school friend, that likes to remind me of my dyslexia. I let go of a friend that is way to negative and butts into my life. Ive been learning to let go of my anger towards people in my family. I'm learning that skill but I'm a work in progress.

Ana, it's probably a healthy way to vent are anger.
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Our son was about to haul a smashed car to the recycler. He’d had a difficult day. So he swung a sledgehammer at a damaged (not re-sellable) part several times, then offered it to us. I can see the attraction of a rage room.

Hubby and I play hockey. It burns off stress. And some cookies.
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Alva, just remember accident happened, that's why the are called accidents.

Your dad sounds like an amazing man. Many people are not so lucky.
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Alva ,

You were lucky to have parents like that .

Instead of dealing with a narcissist ( diagnosed by the way ) mother who chose you to be her slave caregiver from a young age .

My rage during caregiving was mostly over my own failure to realize sooner that I should have broken free from Mom’s grip much earlier in my life . By the time I realized , it was too late. Mom was an old widow with dementia .

I don’t have rage for others either .

Caregiver rage can be rage because of the stress , grief , exhaustion , etc of the situation . It does not have to be directed at a specific person .

Finding outlets for stress , anger , rage , prevents people from taking it out on others .
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There's nothing left in this world I wish to smash. I wish now only to restore, to seek peace, to let things I cannot understand just "go". Even when I am totally without understanding of others for their reactions (political, social) I cannot feel rage. It is more curiosity. And an understanding that I cannot understand. And why can't I?

I think I never had a whole lot of anger in me. I have known many times when I could not understand, when I was curious, when I wished I had answers or understanding, but I cannot remember a lot about anger. Not ever. And I guess that means I lived a really lucky life, then. I remember when my second marriage failed, a man I was so in love with, and someone asked my Dad why I wasn't angry. And he said "The kid doesn't love many people, but once she loves them she isn't able to stop that".
Loved that man, who, even when I was in my 50s, called me "the kid". He was such a QUIET man, gentle, and so into "observing". Fascinated with others, but not "partaking" and mostly observing.
I think if there is such a thing, he was a very OLD SOUL. Very advanced. Very without judgement of others. Always said "most people are just trying to take care of themselves and those they love". Would excuse wrong-doing (to my mind) way too often with that.

Rage? There is so much I cannot understand. But rage? I can't understand that either. I guess --were I attacked-- were one I LOVED attacked, THEN I could understand blind rage to hit back. Automatically.
It is a fascinating question.

I don't really need to beat anything.
I just long to understand.
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They are called Rage rooms , or smash rooms ,

Id love to go
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They actually have places you can go to smash stuff. They give you googles, a heavy coat and a sledge hammer and a room full of old stuff.

Sounds like a blast actually
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Ihatecaregiving,

I highly recommend taking something you no longer want and taking it out to the garage or outside and smashing it .

Put it in a trash bag first .
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Alva,

I recognized it right away !
I am/was ( depending on the day )
one of those that feels responsible for EVERYTHING .

That’s how I ended up caregiving !!
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WOW Alva, that is amazing what your therapist said. And so true. Thank you for sharing that.

Try not to think of the worst case scenario.
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I hate caregiving, complain away, you have every right!
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Way, you could be correct. I tend to self blame. My bro did before me. I don't know why we did because we had such kind and no-blame parents. I guess I felt I couldn't live up to them in my nefarious little private heart. But D. and I used to laugh together about how we tended to think if something was wrong it was all our fault. When I went to a psychologist when I lost my beloved hubby (Well, lost him because I kicked his butt out the door), it was the same. Thought I was the cause of it all.
She said--this psychologist "You can take all the people in the entire world and divide them up into two lines.
One line thinks they are responsible FOR EVERYTHING
and the other line thinks they are responsible for NOTHING. I am going to figure which line you go into, but will tell you that the line with those who think they are responsible for EVERYTHING???
THEY are the easiest ones to treat".

I never forgot her. She shook me up and she shook up my world. She taught me so much and helped me to heal.

OK, so I don't KNOW who knocked who over here.
But the doc and I aren't going dancing any time soon.
And I do hope to hear he's OK. For all I know he could have stoked out right there before the bouquets.
LORDY!!!!!!
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If I have to look at another adult diaper I'm gonna scream! I've been doing this 5 yrs (Mom is 94 I'm 64). I never had kids because I didn't want to change diapers and look at me now. I was so careful (not getting pregnant in my fertile years). It's ironic. Thank God I don't mind cooking and cleaning. I shouldn't complain cause I've got dependable help who comes before 8AM to get her out of bed and to bathe. I would have gone mad without that help. But I'm IT the rest of the the day. I just want to run away
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Hope so, Nacy. Not a bloody thing I can do about it. Will just wait.
N. says they are probably consulting their attorney and the cops will be at the door soon. He is trying to keep the mood light; I will continue to garden and hope I will hear. Otherwise this is something I have to let go of without knowing. I should have taken the number myself. Like I said, it was an overall mess.
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Alva ,

If the doc says he tripped maybe that’s the reason you bumped shoulders .

Don’t look to fabricate self blame .
Take his statement that he tripped at face value .
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Alva, oh that awful waiting and hoping to hear from someone, and the not knowing is the worst. I'm sorry.

They really do sound like people that would most definitely get back to you. I'm sure they know how concerned you are. I think your partner may be right.
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Hey Burnt, thanks so much. The real question is HOW IS THE DOC who got knocked down.
My DD said to me "Mom, did you ever think he could have bumped into YOU" and honestly I never did, but he could have. I guess the many cameras would tell if they could tell ANYTHING in those crowds; I doubt they could. He said to the guard "I tripped and fell" and I said "I think I felt out shoulders bump and I saw him go down. I honestly don't know.
Worrisome to me is that the exceptionally KIND KIND daughter who took my number promised to send me a text today telling me he is OK and it is 1 pm and I don't have it. I know she would not forget about this. And that means me think he could be hospitalized, could be hurt. I think if I don't hear ANYTHING by tonight I will have to think that my partner N. is correct that in all the hullabaloo she wrote down the number wrong. She did the first time and then went to put it in again.
I would feel so reassured to think he is OK, because honestly it is about all I can think about regarding this visit. I have pictures I haven't even downloaded to my Facebook and have instead just downloaded some pictures others took.
Alas.
I will let you all know if I hear anything. The truth is it is no place for old folks like us, but the other truth is that with the flower exhibit most of us who GO are OLD.
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Alva, glad you are okay. I like the DeYoung also. I’m looking forward to the craft show in Fort Mason tomorrow.
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@Alva

I'm relieved you're not hurt, and good for you going to the museum.
I love San Francisco. Fisherman's Wharf and Chinatown were two of my favorite places in the world when I lived there for a bit. I especially love Golden Gate park. I have not been there in many years and from what I see on tv of it, I hope it's not as bad all that.

@Need

If I had to choose what city to me had the greatest art museums and world antiquity to see, I have go with Rome. I think I'd have to go for a year to explore and see all of it properly.
I do love the Smithsonian museums in Washington, DC also. I've been to DC several times and have not seen half of them.
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Hey Alva, how are things going today? I hope everyone is ok?
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Needs, I use to love going bare foot.
Now it's just a reminder of how dirty my floors are.
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Baggy pants, smock tops and two tone platform shoes... so cool LOL
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There are plenty of uncomfortable shoes out there! I remember wearing platform heels as a teenager. I would kill myself if I wore them now! 😝

My daughter was buying shoes for a school dance and she asked for platform shoes. They weren’t like the platforms that I wore as a teenager. They were ridiculously high!

I told her that she could never walk in those, much less dance in them. She said, “Mom, everyone dances barefoot.”

Apparently, they just wear them for a short while before they take them off.
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Alva,

I have always gone barefoot at home.

I kick off my shoes as soon as I get inside.

My husband is a slipper kind of guy. I am not a slipper kind of gal. My daughters love slippers.
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My DH has been walking 5 miles a day most days the last 9 months since being put on Trulicity for DM 2 .

Backwards . Maybe if he did that before he wouldn’t need Trulicity.

Anyway , last month he went for his yearly diabetic foot check at the podiatrist, who cut calluses off both feet for the first time and gave DH a 10% coupon for new sneakers and sent DH to a running store for more appropriate walking sneakers .

He said the owner helped him . She made him walk and she watched how his foot hits the ground to decide which was the right sneaker for him .

My daughter is a runner , she’s gone to this store as well for her running footwear . They helped her as well. She has flat feet and her ankles turn in . She said it’s a Mom and Pop store . And it’s right near my house .
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Yes I have one pair of Skechers, and got my mom to get some to.

Mine don't lace, and I have a strangely small heal, so they slip sometimes. I never could wear pumps or anything
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