You all have it I know or you wont be here. This is year 2 for me and he's not a bad guy it is just we are different in many ways. It is starting to grate on me and I am becoming a very grumpy person. My wife and I are stressed, she has a lot of stress at work. I work at home so I am in it 24/7. We don't have a lot of money to travel and I can't leave him for very long. I can but not sure what the house would be like after. I cook, shop, repair and do all the things around the house, My wife cleans and keep an immaculate house even with 2 dogs.
Dad can come and go as he wishes. It is just he is complaining to relatives ow so I am looking like the bad guy. If I say anything I am really in trouble. It has always been this way. I learned from my mom to keep my ears open and mouth shut. If I tell a relative they tell him. if I tell him he tells a relative. If I say anything to my sister she tells him so I am screwed.
I cant post a message on social media he finds it (sneaky ways he uses the computer). So I am apparently blackballed from the family per sea. It is my assumption but since no one calls now I can only figure that. How do I get info to family that he is not being as forth rite as he portrays? We are all over the country, one sibling and I do not talk (damage done years ago). The other its all about her. Its the aunts and cousins who I guess I don't care but it does sting that I bust my ass and he has to look like the spoiled child.
Losing my cool way too much (it is in check just inside my head).
Do I ask my sibling to take him for a month this summer? If I do she will make it seem like I am asking a favor and will tell him I asked then I look like I am booting him out.
When she needs more care, she has a LTC insurance policy for 1000 days in home and then 7 years in a facility. 30 day exclusion. I have determined that I am not going to be the bathing assistant or the cook.
I expect that a fall might be the precipitating event that lands her in a facility. (Right now, against doctor's advice that was to always use the walker or cane, she is "training" herself to not need anything.)
So stop it! Never mind what they think or say about you. They don't respect you now and may actually end up respecting you more after you set and keep limits. Have you considered counselling to develop your self esteem? What you are into now is called "other esteem" where you look to others for approval rather than to yourself. Look it up and look up "detaching" otherwise you will spend the rest of your life trying to please others and not pleasing yourself. Maybe it is time for dad to go into an ALF or a seniors apartment You do not have to have him live with you if it is not working for you. Your life matters more than what the relatives think. Blessings!
cnn - I am glad you are setting boundaries. Just because your mum plans this or that does not mean you have to go along with it. Some useful phrases are "I couldn't possible do that", "That does not work for me", "I'll think about it"(and then don't bring it up again and if she does say you have thought about it and the answer is No), "I can see that would work well for you but it does not work for me, Can I help you find an alternative?" and so on. I would think hard about the car as it comes with many strings attached and if you accept it you have already implicitly accepted some strings. It gives her great ammunition and you don't want that. (((((hugs))))) stay firm in your resolve. It sounds like she is slipping and will need more care soon, Have you thought what your role will be when that happens? Above all look after you!
The kids did meet with a mortgage person to get pre approved, I am sure that will fall through... All I want is my house back!
I know it's going to be all about boundaries. I've already practiced what I'm going to say when she calls up and expects to be taken this place or that place. ("Put it on the list for Thursday" is what I'll say.)
She is 90, lives alone in a one-story condo 7 minutes from me, and manages all of her own affairs. She's starting to slip, though. Her reasoning isn't all there, and she admits to having short-term memory issues. She is very controlling, and gets very obsessive about things.
I was never close to her, and after her nastiness to me earlier this year, I am keeping my distance. I don't call her unless I absolutely have to. She's not calling me like she used to, either.
My 3 brothers live out of state, of course, and come down for a few days to visit a few times a year. They would have liked her to stop driving last year, but knew they couldn't push the issue since they weren't going to be the ones to do the taxi service.
I wish she would move nearer to one of them. I would love to be one of the ones to come visit a few times a year!
The car will be titled in my name, and I'll be paying the insurance.
By the way, your offer of one shopping trip per week is generous, even if your mom would like multiple excursions. It's exhausting to shop with a frail elder.
This so succinctly describes the issue I expect to have with my mother shortly (once she stops driving, which was supposed to happen in Sept but now it's Oct, but I'm not complaining!). She is giving me her car (worth ~$3K) so I will drive her around. She has balked when I said I'd drive her to Mass, doctor/dental appts. and one shopping trip (morning) a week. She did not like my limiting her shopping opportunities (she also didn't like the idea of my taking her shopping list with me when I did my own shopping).
Originally I was only going to take her to Mass and doctor/dental appointments, but I reconsidered and am now willing to take her out to go shopping one morning a week. But that's not good enough. A few weeks ago out of the blue (when I was driving her home from the dentist) she proclaimed that she was giving me HER car, and therefore SHE would make the rules on when and where I would drive her. She said I would be given a choice of two dates/times to take her where she wanted to go. And then she proceeded to tell me that I was a "little off" and that my memory wasn't what it should be at my age. This was a replay of the nastiness from her the first week of May.
Her only mode of socialization is going out to Mass, shop, medical appts. She expects me to be the helper for her to maintain her life as it is now. She has no concept of "needs" versus "wants." And it will never satisfy her if I set limits, because how DARE I do that!
So that's why I'm keeping my distance as much as possible. If she screams at me, I am just going to leave if I'm at her condo (and there will go that morning's shopping trip). If she starts in on me over the phone, I will hang up.
I don't want her car, I don't want to drive her places, so it's already enough that I have to go along with being her taxi. I will own the car and the car keys, and if she gets nasty, she will have no ride. I am not emotionally equipped to put up with her nonsense.
I wasn't the most tolerant parent in the world, maybe. But if my children had been that BLOODY RUDE... Well, I don't like to picture the scene.
Was your daughter this inconsiderate as a teenager? I bet you didn't let her get away with it then! Are they in for dinner or not? Get a family wall planner for the kitchen, they keep it up to date or they shift themselves. Holy moley!
Needs his own space, does he. Better go out and rent one then, eh.
Except now she wasn't happy because we weren't really helping her, not the way she thought we should. She'd loved shopping, enjoyed wandering the stores and so she had her way of getting presents. We tried it her way, it was not sustainable and we had to come up with our idea of helping.
What I realized was that we have different ideas of what helping means. To her, its a broad, nebulous idea that encompasses whatever needed to keep her life the way it was or the way she wanted. That isn't reasonable or feasible for my sister or I, given our own responsibilities and abilities. So we will always be frustrated that nothing we do is enough, and she will be frustrated that we are not helping her.
It seems to me that your family also has a different idea of helping than you do. i found it helpful to set down a list of what helping was to me, what I was able to do. And then I set limits and made changes. I won't kid you that it was easy. But it's the only way to survive people who have no qualms about unreasonable demands of you.
You're not alone. If I looked again through all the posts from the last few days, I can think of at least a few in which family issues caused similar conflict of conscience for the person in the family who was being taken advantage of.
So remember that - it's not a unique situation and happens frequently, if the posts here on that subject are any indication. And it is hard to break through. Some other posters who write of similar problems have been advised repeatedly of recommended action but for one reason or another haven't been able to move forward.
Tg you are going though a painful growing period right now. Your being used is not new it seems like you are just now aware and its pissing you OFF,
It wont be easy but you have to be comfortable in yourself to make the desision to stop being everyone's scape goat. As mentioned before the guilt will keep you bonded to the revoleving cylcle. Realize you are not responsible to keep everyone happy and take care of everyone. these people sound selfish and God forbid something happens to you I would not be surprised if they hadd a hard time showing up and supporting you.
My father spoiled my mother and my sister. They are both good for nothing. And they blame me for every pitiful issue they encounter. My father had a stroke and they didnt even hardly visit him. Me the one he was hard on was there every day to his last breath. Its so sad. He squeezed my hand a lot sometimes hard. I knew what he was communicating. and my love for him was becuause of his good heart and that part of him I got.
I took on all he did when he died the cleaning becuase I called my self helping him. I did everything with him groceries and all. Hed tell me to pick out a nice gift for my mother for mothers day dont worry bout monies. He'd tell me when I cook make sure I take something to my mother. On his dying bed I knew of his concern about my mother. He loved her much he saw how she treated me. He knew how she was. I assured him I'd look out for her and next day he died.
What I am saying that your goodness is too good. You are hurting them by letting them use your assets and goodness. They will keep on as long as they can and then will give you their *** to kiss.
I hope you get well on road to resolveing it. Because with eyes open it can be very painful to see yourself being used with no consideration for you as a human a person or of who you think you are to them. Reality hits and you realize its saddly nowhere near where or what you thought it was. And if you are like me i thought I knew everything. Till I figured this out. They were using me and I let them. I did a lot of praying some things I had the courage to do: like not feeling responsible to keep house clean. This aint my house I wasnt even welcome there and then I was treated like an intruder. (years of cleaning sweeping and mopping and dusting and shinning ...........and I was seeing stuff left for me like leave it for Dumb Dora. So Dora died.
The other things and there were and still are quite a few I had to place in God's hand because the games don't just stop becuase I decide Im not playing and sometimes they get rough and tempt me to become like them. So I pray and stay in prayer for guidance understanding and strength.
When I happened on this site, it was the answer to one of my prayers and became a refuge for me. because just like Granny said say it here. Your crazy and pain safe here. You cry too long or too hard or just period people use your weakness.
Hang in there. I am also on prayer line regularly. Its the only way I keep my sanity in the mist of selfish ugliness and manipulation.
I am pushing for you TG.
Insight often guides behavior change, and TG, you have lots of insight into the behavior of others. But it's your behavior that needs to change.
Nope. You are going to have to have a quiet sitdown with your daughter and with your dad. " Dad, these are the house rules, regarding the dog, the food, cleaning, locking up. Without these things being followed, your living here isn't going to work out anymore". Repeat with daughter.
Whatever whining, crying or protesting that follows, you shrug, sigh a bit and say,
" that's the deal if you plan on living here. Otherwise, other plans need to be made".
Can you follow that script?
On one night when the older sister forgot it was her turn and went out with friends, she came home to find that night's lamb chops defrosting on her pillow (and turned vegetarian on the spot, but that is by the bye).
I am not suggesting that turning into a somewhat vicious narcissist is something to aspire to, but you do have plenty of scope for exploring a happier mean don't you think?
Vent away here, if that's what you want to do. But if you'd like to figure out how to stop living your life as a doormat ( that comment from your daughter, a couple of pages back? That's how these folks view you) then you need to find a family therapist who can show you how to shift the dynamics off YOUR shoulders.
I guess if you are a nice guy they will take advantage of you. My office is directly in the entry to the house so when anyone comes in there is no place to hide. I can't change it unless I am out thousands of dollars a year.
Everyone does what ever they want to do around here. My wife asked our daughter to clean the bathroom they use, why should we do it?
No one makes dinner because I do, then nights when I don't want to cook they all go out or do something else, how come no one makes meals for me? Dad can certainly make batches of cookies (with all my fixings) for church and tell everyone he cooks "gourmet".... not around here apparently. Maybe I wont do anything tonight since I have to be on the road in 2 hours to work tonight...
I'm tired, just plain tired....
the SIL used my lawn tractor to mow the lawn for me this week... great! Well kid of, messed up the new area I amd trying to grow grass in but.... Came home and the hood up.... yup $800 to fix it.... coincidence????.... tired.... just tired.......
People will gossip, some feed off drama, some will outright lie to create it. I am well respected by my friends, neighbors and in my community, no criminal record, I was married 35 years my husband passed, I raised two kids who are good people in our community, and I still have to deal with the dark overshadowing reality of living life in a fish bowl as a caregiver, that's how I describe it and frankly I'm caring for a verbally abusive dad, he's made that way, I've been called every name in the book, I'm treated like an old school waitress and secretary, not like a daughter. My problems that are similar to what you and your wife are dealing with don't come from my dad running around town saying stuff that's not true, but come from a sibling, a female neighbor of dads who spread trash talk, and a couple of cousins checking up on me regularly as well, not to help me, but to look for dirt and spread it around dads old neighborhood and around the family. My dad and I do argue at times, and I've learned to walk away, it's best for me to do that, it lowers my blood pressure, he does it intentionally to upset me for entertainment, I've learned not reacting is the best response.
Overall, first I'll tell you there's nothing you can do about what people say, except to publicly show it's not true, you do that tactfully realistically and hopefully have good people around you who will support you even just a little, make a point to note the good days and times, and not the bad with your dad, friends, family, socially, etc.... One of my dad's neighbors approached me to let me know a woman was gossiping quite a bit about crazy stuff, told me who, and when she contacted me again acting like a friend, I knew who to write off my friend list, so I did. The cousins came out quite a bit, I knew what they were doing, I welcomed them, they realized after awhile that everything my brother was saying was at the least exaggerated if not an outright lie. Cousins went about their own business as they should have. My dad drives me crazy and I just need a break too, so I make sure I get one.
The following, forgive the obvious, but I'll list it.
1. This a great site for venting frustrations, keep it here, not with family and friends, it'll spread and grow ugly if you vent to other people, even under the best intentions. Ugly backfires might cause dad to hack your texts and facebook.
2. Find safe zones for yourself on your property, in your house, around town. Places where you can go, dad can't or doesn't know about, have quiet time away from dad when you need it, harmless places he can't get to. I moved my room to the top floor of my house because my dad can't do stairs, it's also quiet up there, I can't hear his tv, or the 8th time he's yelled for coffee at 10 pm, and he knows it so now he doesn't bother me after 9:30, I tell him I moved up there because it's cooler in the summer and warmer in the winter, not because of him and he's good with that, prevent him complaining. I also work outside during the day after he's taken care of so I can get peace and quiet.
3. What you do have to do for dad, any and all of it put on a regular schedule, so you can work your daily routine around it.
4. Take dad to do what he likes once a week, even just something very small, take a smiling photo of yourself with dad and post it everywhere. Sounds dumb, but think about it, if there's a lot of bad social stuff going on, that one action throws water on the smoke, make a point of having a good day with dad once a week, even for just an hour or two, whether he likes it or not, at least you tried.
5. Don't send him to the sibling, I might be wrong, but I think it might make things worse. We get our breaks as caregivers in an hour here and there usually, make room for those breaks.
6. Do a scheduled visit for your dad at your house by family and/or friends. They can see the environment dad lives in, even a dinner party.
7. If dad is verbally abusive to you and lies about you in front of others, let him, and then calmly rationally contradict what he's said right there in front of others, ie; My dad will say I don't feed him, he's 6' 230 lbs., he's obviously not starving, when he acts like that, I'll offer to get him a cup of coffee. When he complains about his living quarters, I'll say did you want to still keep those extra channels you have on my tv in your quarters dad or should I cancel those on my dish bill, lol.