Many of us, myself included, come from a dysfunctional family which adds a lot of weight to the challenges of caregiving. I have read stores on various threads on other topics and decided it would be good to have a thread just for this topic for people to share, vent and discuss.
The idea for this thread originated on the thread named "The Caregiver....How are YOU doing today?"
So your mom is getting in suspicious mode? Yes, my did this recently concerning receipts w/my sister. Does she react at all when you return her check to her, or understand any of this? But I know you have a great upper hand, attitude about it. Good for you! Margeaux
Book~I know about about clutter and it accumulates quickly. I need to go through closets to get rid of clothes no longer being used. I did weed out a bunch of old craft supplies in the spring. I have 3 consecutive days off next week and I plan to finish painting.
Joan~I hope your dinner turned out well...a nice visit with your son and dil. You have been very busy with the holidays, good for you!!
I went to target yesterday and bought a little computer desk for the new computer which I haven't set up yet because I want to finish painting first. Then I went to JCP to buy a new pair of slippers and OMG, that store was so hot. It must have been 85 degrees in there. I started sweating just standing in line. Come on move this line faster, menopausal woman is having a melt down here, Lol!!
Gotta go, so everyone have a great day!!
Glad G and I are not the only pack rats. I do go through clothing regularly and get it to the Thrift shop. And have gotten rid if extra tableware and kitchen stuff.
Margeaux, I had to laugh at your hubby being proud of things he has had for such a long time. He and G would see eye to eye on that.
My dinner went very well - one of the best turkeys ever. Dave, bless his heart did some sorting out of my tablet, and also Gary's work computer. It was a very nice relaxed evening, and G built an awesome fire in the fireplace.I had to go back to the store for brussel sprouts and I think all those trips in the cold tired me -I am wiped today and need to pack for travelling tonight after supper at dds. I like to forget that I m 75. Time to start filling a suitcase - G will be home in a couple of hours. In the middle of this I am making up and sending out invoices for his business, and fielding questions about things of which i know very little lol, but I seem to do OK. It keeps my brain active!. This morning I was washing the front hall floor befoe 8 am because of dirt from the visitors boots. I guess I am doing OK.
Hope everyone is having a good day (((((((hugs)))))) and love Joan
Sharyn – I agree with you totally. It will have to be little at a time. Last night, I dug up 4 bags of purses looking for the Right Size for today’s outing. I don’t think I can get rid of my purses. I pulled out a purse that I haven’t used in 2 years. But it suited for today’s activity – shopping. … Your mom is going deeper in the “accusing” stage, isn’t she? She’s now including you. When mom started on this stage, it was only the 1 SIL. Then, time went by, she started accusing SIL 2. Time went by, she accuse us kids. After the accusing stage, I believe mom started what I call the “Wandering” stage.
With regards to menopause, I always go around with my trusty small foldable hand fan. The one you see the Japanese use. Mine is paper not the cloth type or the wooden type. I buy several so that when one wears out, I have some to replace immediately. It sure helps a lot when the meno hits. I am standing in line, and that fan is viciously moving as I try to cool off.
I'm glad that your dinner with Gary and your family went well.
Yes, it's work getting these dinners together. Just having all of the ingredients, going to the store to get them in one part of getting it all together, isn't it!
How wonderful, a fireplace!
Oh!! I could tell you some stories about my husband and he keeping things forever. Really, he takes great pride in some of the things he still uses for over 20 years. I remember when we were first together, and he'd say something of the sort to me. He's kind of in wonderment also at times when some of these things fall apart. One example of this is we have our cell phones, but then he also has the landline. The phone, answering and fax machine are very old. One can barely listen to the messages on the answering machine they sound very muffled and just can't decipher the message at times. I've suggested to him, he needs a new one, but it falls on deaf ears.
Yes, I also was doing some what I call hard cleaning, like doing the kitchen floor.
I'd like to do the living room floor, however this is another aspect of the diff. between the husband and myself. He has certain items in these areas that tantamount to an obstacle course. The clutter! So straight on mopping of the floor would require for me to move several pieces of furniture and throw rugs. Well, I sweep the floor daily, and it's only we two, so keep it pretty clean. I was totally wiped yesterday from having scrubbed the kitchen floor, and I did a light job on our stove top.
O.K., Emjo have a safe journey. Much Love, Margeaux
You have come a long way. I remember some months ago, you were posting when you were worried about your mom and her driver's license and test. You really have worked on detaching yourself from both your sister and mom. It takes some work on our parts, to be constantly on the look out. Well, good for you Sharynmarie, you've been able to sort whatever it is about each of their personalities, and work around that.
I'm distancing myself again from my sister. Honestly, I came home in such a strange mood after that disaster Christmas. I do not get into details about any of this w/my husband. It's difficult to share this kind of stuff w/him, because he's already noticed what a control freak my sister is, but I wouldn't want him to start to dislike her. You know that moment, w/our own siblings that a spouse might never understand, because we are the ones who've known them much longer. Besides,
my sister and husband have an o.k. relationship, and I prefer that it be that way.
Right now I've been somewhat detaching from one of my friends also.
She really started to work my nerves over w/a lot of her attitudes about her health and general well being lately. You know these kind of people who complain, and complain about something but go ahead and do really stupid things that are detrimental to their well being, then they're back at square one, complaining about it. In a nutshell, this is basically my sister also. So I'm trying to end the year on a "No, you can't complain to me right now." I mean, it's different, if it's a legitimate complaint, not just repetition! O.K., Detach, Detach, Detach, my mantra! Much Love, Margeaux
Gee, I was so venting w/my last posts.
I forgot to mention that mom looked very cute on Christmas.
She was wearing a very stylish velour two piece outfit.
It's quite interesting to hear some of us here writing about the stages we observe w/our elders and their ALZ or Dementia. My mom was having a mellow day. But I do notice she is very firm about her dislikes about food. My younger brother who is somewhat of a teaser was trying to get her to bite on a pepper. Honestly, I wish he would not do that, because she gets heartburn. Then his wife, (pt. of the tension causer w/my sister), is such a know it all. When I told my mom, that it could cause her heartburn, my SIL, said to me, "Well, it's a sweet pepper, not a hot one." I told her, well, guess what, these can also cause it. Never the less, mom said in a very matter of fact way, she didn't want to eat it.
My mom went through that period some years ago, where she was shuffling through her junk mail. She also did this a couple of times while I was there, trying to replay her messages on the answering machine. In hindsight, poor thing, I know she was doing this to camouflage the fact about her memory being in decline. Since she was the one who was more mobile than her sister, my aunt depended upon mother for many things. Both of them didn't want to let on to the rest of us how bad off they really were, for fear of losing their independence. This was before my sister and her family had moved in w/them.
O.K., going for some more Joe! Much Love, Margeaux
Margeaux~Good for you for distancing from your friend for a while. It does get old listening to the same thing. Some people don't know how to have a conversation without complaining, it's the weather or something else trivial.
Well hang in there everyone and enjoy the weekend, we have some sunshine today so it is pretty outside!!
We had a nice supper at my dds last night and decided to get a good rest and drive down today. We had a good drive and they gave us a suite at the hotel -it is lovely! Gary went to the mall and I stayed here to unpack. I hooked up to the internet, opened my email and there are 16 messages from mother - each one crazier than the last -well, maybe not quite, but you get the idea. She is mad at me because I am going behind her back and she hasn't been consulted. The truth is she has been pressing me to contact some people, I contacted a couple of them, and now she is accusing me of going behind her back.She refuses to see Gary because he doesn't understand her problems. but she will see me if I come alone, but only if I want to talk about her problems and help solve them -she can't just have a pleasant visit. She asked me if I could do something to guarantee her place gets cleaned the way she wants it, and so on. Honestly everytime I have been there it has been spotless. Guess what, I won't be going to see her. All she wants is an audience to bitch on and on about things I have heard about far too many times anyway. And she probably wants to get mad at me for whatever she can figure out. It is the old damned if you do, and damned if you don't. If I don't call these people she gets mad, and if I do call them I am going behind her back.
I need to breathe deep. I hate these contacts from the crazy side. I do find them upsetting. I am one step closer to withdrawing from POA. She asks for help then fights, and accuses when I try to help. Nothing new there, but I am gettng older, I am tired of it, and I don't need it. My sis is POA backup and she can have it.
Hi the the new people -you can see that dysfunctional fits my family well. Mother does not have dementia, but she does have Borderline Personality Disorder, and it is in full swing right now
Gotta get past this in time to enjoy the dinner theatre...
Gary and I really enjoyed the dinner theatre. The music was great -the Buddy Holly Story, and so was the food. The timing of this, plus mother's statement that she would see me, but not Gary and didn't want any advice from him (who said he was going to give any?) really put me off. This was our special weekend during the holidays and her craziness, as far as I am concerned, was designed to spoil it, and, of course, put her front and center. Gary and I are a couple and any attempts of hers to divide us will not work.
sharyn I know you know how it feels -you had a dose this week too. The thing with mother is that she does not have dementia. She played helpless to suck people in.. begged and demanded that I get involved, then accused me of doing things without consulting her when I made a phone call and sent one email -which was only part of what she had asked me to do, and told me was urgent. Then all of a sudden, the helpless little old lady is gone, she is sharp as a whip, directing her little operation, calling on this one and that one and so on, and coming down in me. What a sick game. It has happened before. and I am the only one who can stop it from happening to me again. I really did think she was failing this time, and not able to totally grasp what was going on this time, or I would not have gotten as involved, but from the emails it is clear that she gets what is going on and can handle it. There was no need for my involvement other than to feed her need for attention, and I am not going any further in that direction.
Now I need to look into myself, and figure out why I haven't given up POA before, and why I am having difficulty letting it go. If I had to exercise POA, Gary would assist me in that if I needed it. We discuss various things and help one another which is natural for a couple. She has clearly stated she does not want him involved, which, practically speaking, makes it impossible for me. This may be the logic I use to her, though I know I don't have to give any explanations, at the same time it feels good to me to show her that she has created her own situation. Any feedback is welcome.
We will drive home today, after the complimentary brunch. Gary works the 31st, and needs to tend to the horses on New Years Day, and I am haooy with a quiet New Years Eve.
The lad who wants to do more renovations, but who will first finish what he didn't complete earlier,is coming towards the end of the week, so I have to clear out some of the basement as he will sleep there. I do want him to do some work in the basement to better finish it, and Gary can keep an eye on him, and make sure it all gets done properly. Thanks all ((((((hugs))) Joan
sharyn - your sis is her own worst enemy thank goodness my hot flash days are over - really didn't have many - my thyroid was low so I was cold -think they balanced out lol
margeaux -I love my fireplace - one comfort in our long cold winters - I know all about the difficulty of cleaning around the clutter. It is good to put distance
hi yogi - good to see you posting -
my three -I am so sorry about your childhood abuse. You are a survivor and dealing with your family very well - good for you!
cmag - I do think you have done very well in therapy. On the whole I have found therapy helpful too.
time for brunch and than I will have to diet when i get home Hope evrye has a decent day
What on earth!! Is there any way your mom's computer time could be limited?
HAAH! I know an ALF would probably never do this. I really feel for you. I'm also wondering what your mother was like when she was younger. But I know this behavior, the never being satisfied, pleased, measuring up. We definitely experienced this with our aunt. She I'm sure was border line.
I know how you feel also, when you've written that even your husband doesn't want to be around her. I'm sure you don't want to be around her either.
This was the exact same feeling I had after Christmas when I went and after getting my dosage of too many complaints and knowing about all of the fighting with my sister vs. the SIL!
Good for you also, that you realize this and aren't going to be her audience.
I said this about an ex-friend I had to drop a year ago. This is all she did and I had quite enough. The world doesn't center around any one person.
I'm quite happy for you that you're having a good time w/Gary and your other family members. Have a safe journey home, Much Love, Margeaux
Emjo, as soon as we can figure out how I can walk out on the parents without my conscience condemning me, I can walk out. As it is, I stayed on 23yrs ago due to religious reasons. Those reasons are still valid. I have been visited by our religious higher-up-with-position several times a year for the past 23 yrs. Not Once, did he/wife say it's okay for me to leave. Sigh..
But the main reason I don't want POA? I've put half of my life into caring for mom and then now father. I dont want anymore "burden" of them on me. Just physically being here is more than I can handle. I don't want anymore chains to link me to them.