My mom has been treated for a UTI for about 3 weeks. Admitted into the hospital last week for two days of IV antibiotics. She still has the UTI. I think this is the 3rd round of different antibiotics. Why would these antibiotics not be working and what can I do? Thanks!
I tried it on a whim because my cranberry pills weren't working, straight d-mannose wasn't working. I take two anytime I feel even a hint of anything happening and it takes care of it. I also take one after sex. This is amazing and I thank the people out there who make it cuz without it I would have to resort to antibiotics, and now I only have to resort to them in emergencies!
Remember the methyl blue foam.
Yes you can do debrement in the
Clinic...they use a sonic machine.
Is it due to venous status ??
If so you can use a machine that
Will help with blood flow. It has
A boot that goes over the foot
To "the never land". It has a pump
That Inflates and deflates bladders
And this mimics blood flow...I
Can't recall the name.
I don't know the particulars on
Your moms wound, but the big
buzz word is biofilm
The sonic is sonicia and there are
Manual devices.
Good luck
We tried Medi-honey and did not have a good result. We tried an antimicrobial silver gel (name escapes me at the moment) and did not have a good result with that, either, though we may go to using that every other day, alternating with the Santyl.
I observe all sanitary/sterile procedures, using up to 4 pair of gloves per dressing change, cleaning items that may have come in contact with the wound or drainage (ie, bandage scissors) with alcohol, and so forth; also, any laundry that comes in contact with drainage from the wound is washed separately in hot water and some bleach.
She gets added protein twice daily and her protein levels have been raised from low-normal to normal, along with adding some 30 pounds in weight over the past 10 months.
On the Santyl/Hydrofera Blue protocol, I am starting to see minimal improvement. She needs to be hospitalized for a debridement under anesthesia as well as IV antibiotics; however, she's within 30 days of her last hospital admission and so Medicare would prove difficult to get past on a readmit. When we next see the wound care doctor, I'll be asking if she can have the debridement done as an outpatient instead, as I think that's important to be done.
Unfortunately, I don't believe the oral antibiotics are helping her UTI or her wound as yet; she's been on them for 5 days and I would have expected to hear her say the UTI's improving by now. She says it isn't. So we shall see what this week brings as we see both the wound care doc and her primary care on Wednesday. If she still can't be hospitalized, then I'll ask about taking her daily for outpatient IV antibiotics.
The problem is that she typically responds poorly to the treatment that would normally be indicated and, yet, testing shows that this is not arterial and should respond to typical venous wound treatments. But, from my research, I've learned that her poor response isn't actually atypical but, rather, somewhat normal. We just keep plugging.
About every day, wash the entire leg
And foot with diluted herbiclense or
Techcare surgical scrub when available.
but do not put them on the wound.
Also when you change bandage, make
Sure you a sterile. Use product past
Your elbow, wear gloves...and perhaps
Wear a mask good luck
Some wounds that were difficult to
Heal. First we need everything to
Heal...protein and some trace minerals.
There is a product called pro-stat...15g of
Protein in 1 oz. Get the aw one (advanced
Wound therapy) but check with Dr
About the protein and kidney function.
As for wound infection, I have used medi-honey,
Rinse with sterile saline and reapply.
The the other is a once or twice
Per day topical soak of Dakins solution
(look on internet). On either one when
you wrap it, use sterile AMD gauze
Which is a special antimicrobial coatinB.C.
Consult with your local wound clinic.
I've also seen wound vac do wonderful
Things...good luck
And with my mom, it's not just the UTIs, it's also a long-term wound that heals, then reopens, then heals, then reopens. At some point, it invariably becomes infected (currently, it's infected with MRSA, 4 weeks ago, it was VRE) and antibiotics are a necessity for that as well. Actually, 4 weeks ago, she had two separate organisms in her urine, and two separate organisms in her ankle wound, which gave us 4 separate organisms to try to treat - and all that without affecting her other meds. It's becoming more and more of a struggle...
Unfortunately never got the chance to test them out as right after I received the medicine, I went on a long anticipated trip with friends and on my way home got a call from my sister, telling me that she had fallen down and the rest is unfortunate circumstances.
I'm only telling you all this because I wish someone had told me sooner. It's worth a try is all I can say.
I unfortunately didn't get to try them for my Mom.
It wouldn't hurt to try at least,
She would get resistant to one so ey would try another. She'd get an upset stomach and tha twould make her weak. I went on a vacation and while I was gone, she fell and broke her hip in 3 places from being so weak and ended up in the hospital where she got C-Dif and . S was in the hospital for 3 weeks and is now in continuous care. The facility Dr who specializes in Elder Care said that they all have some level of infection and cautherizing is not effective. The side effects of the taking antibiotics is what will get them not the UTI. He also took her off of Namenda because the side effect from that medicine is the same as what you would be taking it for!
Appreciate your clarification. While I am not one of those people with whom you had bad experiences, I do understand your skepticism.
I do have integrity , so let me clarify something important:
1. I have made no medical claims. I have said that it can work and reported how it has worked for me.
2. I am not a doctor and cannot / do not prescribe; therefore , I have directed anyone who is interested to the doctor's website.
Quacks come in all professions. I have encountered many, some of whom happened to be MDs.
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I am sorry if I offended you. Yes I went
To the website mentioned in Washington
State. Thereafter I did a bit of other
Research. The final word, from accepted
Research from university was that it
Preliminary showed promise, but
Needed further study.
Over the years I have grown very tired
Of all the claims I have seen. All these
things on TV and the like....and when
You are sick and seems like nothing
Works, you will try just about anything
At any price. These people know this
And use it to their advantage.
I AM NOT SAYING ALL NATURAL MEDICINE
PEOPLE ARE QUACKS...there are some
Fine people who work very hard to help
People who have a need.
I guess that is why my opinion is colored
And clouded as it is.
If you do your homework, and it
Works for you, by all means use it.
If you make a medical statement about
A product, you need to prove to the
FDA that it does what you say.
It is not a perfect system, but o
The abundance of safety.
Take care and I hope you are doing well.
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we have, and error on the s
I am reporting what works for ME. MY EXPERIENCE. Pharmaceuticals are sometimes necessary and great when they work and cause no harm or side effects. Does a simple sugar have side effects? I don't know. Do fruits and vegetables have side effects ? Anything can be overdone.
BTW, busy, NOW is not a vitamine group, and where have you read the "claims" you are talking about. The more power to you comment is just plain rude.
I am writing to adults here. I expect that folks with diabetes will be cautious and do their own research.
For anyone who truly desires relief from unnecessary suffering, I hope you will at least research the information.
She had one in April and using the same medication she had used the previous time she got diahhrea about the 3rd day of the 5 day medication. A couple days after the medication was completed, she got something called Cdiff. The diahhrea was terrible and after about 3 days I took her into the hospital, not knowing about the Cdiff. The doctors put her on an IV for about 4 hours and wanted to know if I wanted to take her home and get plenty of water into her. I said no so they admitted her and kept her on IVs for 3 days and discharged her into a nursing home until the medication is completed.
Now we are going to try keeping the UTIs away by using cranberry capsules.
The antibiotic for the UTIs is what caused the Cdiff.
Judy also ended up with gout the same time the first UTI occurred this year. There is a possiblity the gout and the UTIs are related.
My advice, if the Cdiff (sp) is suspected, it is just too much for one person to treat.
uti but most say more study needed. I note
That vitamine groups carry it including NOW.
It seems harmless enough....as long as you
Don't go crazy. If it works for you, more
Power to you. Take care
My bladder infections don't respond to any doctors' tests, so for years I have suffered needlessly. I am middle aged and yet I was losing bladder control to the point of getting less than 1 minute warnings before I had to urinate. Of course, I often didn't make it. Humiliating. Needless.
Then I stumbled upon the following website and articles such as" D-Mannose for Bladder and Kidney Infections" by Dr. Jonathan V. Wright, MD.
D-Mannose works very quickly for me. I take a teaspoon of it at night and the UTI is gone by the next day. Apparently most people experience it having a sweet taste, however for supertasters like me it is not sweet. I don't mind at all because the relief is amazing. I, for one , do not need any more randomly prescribed antibiotics to take a toll on my body.
CAVEAT: I've seen many companies on-line who offer this product at outrageous prices.The brand I use is KAL, by Neutraceutical. I am in no way affiliated with this company and only know what my experience is with this one product. I do appreciate their reasonable price.
Here's to your health.
who says so and why, how was it dx?
Start with the simple things first. Urine
In the body is sterile (for the most part).
So something has crawled inside somehow.
first....have we done a culture? Then at
The same time a test is done to find the
Correct antibiotics. Most common is
bactrim (a sulfa drug)......so either we
District kill it, either not long enough or
strong enough....or its not getting there....
Or its being reintroduced.....either by
Physical abnormalities...or some other
Ways.
By plumbing design, ladies usually have
More problems.....first start with bygone
Externally. Soap and water or pericare
Cleaner for a little while....also change
undies frequently. We could be dribbling
And that makes a place for things to
Grow.. .also there could be some back
Flow.
As someone said maybe not fully emptying
Could be the problem.
also give the body the best chance to
Heal itself....is she a diabetic...some
Meds can make you more prone to
A uti . Cranberry shows some limited
effect. How is overall health and nutrition.
Drink plenty of liquids.
We may need to look higher
GP. =urologist. =nephrologist
Why say uti. Going to the bathroom alot,
Pain, fever.....could be something else
And as for the witch doctor potions......(and
hold your letters)......IF it truly a reliable and
Significant improvement......some pharmacy
Company would have it done long ago.....
Those boys are smart....and know a
good things when they see it.
Start with the basics, and hope your
mom gets well soon. The worry is
If it spreads to kidneys, and that is
A totally different headache.
Good luck
What we've done in the past, and I guess I'm going to have to start doing it again, is have a standing order for a weekly UA to be done at the hospital's lab. Fortunately, her nurse practitioner is VERY on top of this issue with her and will do whatever it takes. I'm also going to ask about the Hiprex - that does cover some of the infections she gets so, if that'll help stop them before they start and it's relatively safe for her to take, I'm all over it.
We've talked about doing a prophylactic dose of antibiotics for her, but with the organism being different nearly every time, that probably wouldn't be that effective. AND she's started having VRE infections which are very antibiotic-resistent.
And, as I said, the NP doesn't want to do the cranberry since she doesn't seem to get the e. coli infections - she HAS said that, if that was an organism that affected her, she'd certainly consider adding a cranberry supplement and then monitoring the INR for a while to get it adjusted properly. Also, every time she has to go on antibiotics, THAT affects her INR as well - she hasn't been on a stable dose of Coumadin from almost the first of the year because she's been on antibiotics for nearly that whole time for this or that.
It's very frustrating.
I don't want to make life misserable for my poor husband but am trying so hard to find something that helps him. Drs seem to wait until it is a full infection or bacteria before they are willing to treat. The antiobodics by IV seems to cause him a lot of problems with his bowels and his tummy. I guess we just keep trying to stay ahead of the game.
Interesting that your husband's clinic wants him to do the cranberry juice even though he's not had e.coli because they don't want him to get that organism - my mom's doctor and nurse practioner went exactly the opposite way and said that, because she never gets e. coli, it's not worth her taking the cranberry juice and mucking with her INR. So...go figure. :)