*Situation
My boyfriend of 2 years the other night told me how he worries a lot about his best friend who struggles with degenerative health issues, and talked about how ideally would want all 3 of us to live together. Seems he at some point promised to support her and care for her when she has health issues. But he NEVER mentioned this EVER to me when we’ve discussed our future plans. I feel so blindsided. I didn’t want to come off as insensitive so I didn’t pry just that I was very surprised. Then he said “well of course your opinion matters. All I know is I am in love with you and want to grow old with you.” I just feel like no matter what I say, it will seem insensitive to Mary and her health issues and his commitment to help her. But at the same time, this is a big commitment on his part and doesn’t seem compatible with the relationship plans we’ve talked about. I know I need to have another talk but want to be delicate and not seem insensitive to Mary. Please see below for more context on the friendship and more details that may help/impact your feedback. Thank you in advance for your help and guidance!
*More background
I am 34 and have been dating my boyfriend Matt (42 years old) for 2 years. Before dating, we met in grad school in Boston and were best friends for 4 years. His other best friend was a young woman, Mary (31 years old), who he lived with in Kansas. She was the one that urged Matt for years to tell me how he felt, and was so happy when we finally started dating. I knew she struggled with some health issues and was on immune-suppressing medicine to deal with it (degenerative issues that affect her joints and some chronic pain issues). A couple years ago, Mary broke up with her boyfriend so she decided to take a travel work contract and move to the East Coast, a few hours away from Matt and I. Matt would visit about one weekend a month and often I’d tag along. For the 1.5 years of our relationship, Matt and I lived in Boston in our separate apartments and did usual relationship things like traveling, meeting each other’s families and planning our future together. Then COVID happened…our city announced there would be a lockdown. Mary had just broken up with her longterm boyfriend, so Matt left Boston to go stay with Mary (in case she got sick, this way she wouldn’t be by herself in case got COVID). After a few weeks, I left to join Mary and Matt and have been here ever since. It has been very difficult being a couple, and living with a third person (the apartment is small, and have little privacy). But I always felt very grateful to be here and to Mary for welcoming me. I also took a lot of comfort in the fact this was a temporary situation and Matt and I soon would get our own place.
The other night Matt got emotional about how scared he was about COVID because he knew if Mary contracted it she likely would get very sick and potentially could be fatal coupled with her other health issues. He said he wants to “always make sure she’s okay and not alone and struggling.” I probed to ask what he meant by that logistically, and he said he was happy with the current living situation with all 3 of us. And ideally we’d find a place with her, or at the least she’d live closeby. It seemed he had made a commitment to Mary and be her caretaker when her health gets bad.
But he’s NEVER mentioned this to me EVER, and we’ve had a lot of conversations about the future. And a surprise because before COVID, she seemed fine living independently, with only a 1x month visit from Matt. She also moved far away from her hometown, friends and family to this travel work position, so she only has Matt as potential support geographically close by.
It’s noble he’s made a promise to help a friend, but this feels like it goes WAY above and beyond the usual. And the type of living situation and caretaking he’s talking about with Mary is incompatible with what I want for us. I just don’t know what to do next. Thank you for your help
Something just doesn't sound right here.
You have gotten some good responses. Please think seriously about this. I think you already are questioning this relationship. Most of us are Seniors. We have grandchildren. We have been there.
So this is entirely up to you. I would be honest with yourself about what you are signing on for. Your life would not be your own, not now and not ever, and it would be an increasingly long, agonizing slow slide down. This is not YOUR good friend. This is Matt's good friend. I suspect anyone he thinks can do this life's work with him will be letting him down SOONER or LATER.
I would make it sooner. I would tell Matt that the future cannot be known. He is correct. This dear person could die anytime soon, or she could live many decades. But all that is a gamble and to live gambling in "hopes" of someone's demise would be truly ugly, but perhaps unavoidable.
I would simply tell him I have thought long and hard on this, and I know my limitations for certain, and that they won't change. That love isn't the answer and cannot fix everything, and that this wasn't your plan for a life together. It is charming he wants to grow old with you. While you live in the same area you can be friends, and in my life friends have outlasted loves anyway, so perhaps the best way to grow old together is to stay friends.
Wouldn't be for me. As I said, you have a decision. It won't be easy, but I think you already know you cannot have him with you at the cost of his friend, nor can you live with his friend in a three way "menage".
What a blow. I am so sorry.
He's not ready for marriage.
Or at least marriage to you, unless you allow this strange relationship to go on with him acting as a husband/brother proxy to her, which is why he's testing the waters.
Certainly he doesn't sound very mature or that he's given much thought to what ''growing old with you'' entails, or the level of commitment required.
Mary needs to be responsible for herself.
There's no reason he should have gone to go live with her if she was healthy when she broke up with her boyfriend-what would his presence possibly do to prevent her from getting covid? I think that was an excuse. If this was another male friend of yours who did same thing, what reason would you think he was doing it for? If you hadn't followed him, where do you think your relationship would be right now? Broken up because he decided to stay playing house with her full time over you?
So there's your answer.
It's nice he wants to take care of his friend. Weird that he's put you at the level of a roomie rather than life partner when deciding to commit himself this way. He may want to grow old with you, but do you want to grow old with Mary and her health issues?
He's 42. Too old to be so foolish.
Throw him back.
"...the type of living situation and caretaking he’s talking about with Mary is incompatible with what I want for us..." What you want for your life is what matters. You should not make decisions based on what your boyfriend or Mary wants. If it's not what you want then it's not going to work.
Life is too short to settle for less than what you want. It isn't fair to you, your boyfriend or your roommate Mary for you to be less than honest about what you want for yourself and your future. Start making arrangements for yourself to find your own place, move on with your career and do the things you enjoy doing. In time you will meet new people and new relationships can blossom.
Pretend you haven't dated your boyfriend for 2 years...
If you just met him today,
and he told you what his life situation was,
and about his female friend who was in poor health and needed a lot of care,
and that he was looking for a girlfriend who would join and be a threesome to take care of the friend,
would you sign up?
That's your answer to your "I just don’t know what to do next."
If you wouldn't sign up for that today, then you shouldn't sign up for tomorrow, and the next day, and next week, and the next 10-20 years.
Tell him what you want for YOUR life doesn't match with what he wants for HIS life, so you two/three should part ways, and you wish him/them well.
Here are some other posts you might want to read about how other men tried to maneuver a man/woman friendship into a triad:
https://www.agingcare.com/search?term=man+wants+fiance+to+care+for+his+father
The facts are somewhat different, but also similar, and the result is basically the same: the woman subordinates her own interests for the individual for whom her alleged loved one brings into their twosome.
I actually found myself becoming angry when I read your post; while I acknowledge that there are people who are born "carers", somehow I can't accept that your current manfriend is one. Or perhaps he is, but it's gone beyond caring and slid into a compulsion. It's hard to believe someone really would have the audacity to ask a potential female companion for life to compromise and add a third woman in, even if she is disadvantaged.
While his alleged intents are laudatory, I would consider this an experience, an eye-opener, wish him well and find a different manfriend. Threesomes are not good, unless you're specifically into that kind of relationship and choose it. But in this situation there's not an equal playing field, b/c the other woman apparently (?) needs special care.
And I assume you don't want to be a live-in Cinderella?
Chalk it up to an early warning system, and move on.
However. Back before, when you and he were doing the normal things including discussing your future and he didn't say a word about caring for Mary forever and ever... What shape were things taking?
I hate to say it, but it is possible that the bond between them was stronger than anyone realised and has now deepened further. It's *possible*. But I certainly wouldn't make any assumptions about that at this insanely stressful and disconcerting time in world events.
Good for him that he is a great “friend” but in my book not so good for husband material if that’s what you are looking for.
The implications of HIS decision are huge.
You know you can’t trust him.
Time to get back on track with your life and let them figure out their relationship.
I keep wondering...does anyone work? Any children here? What about extended family for all three of you?? Yada yada yada. So much to consider.
I’m sorry for your pain. Let us know how you are doing.
All his close friends seem to be women. Weird. Has he no close males friends?
It is ok for him to be concerned about her. It is ok for him to want to "help" her in realistic ways, but he's a "Rescuer", which is not healthy. My BIL married a woman he "rescued". They didn't really get married for healthy reasons and their marriage has been rocky almost it's entire duration. IMHO this is not the guy to make a future with, and I would move on.