Been trying to see my dad with my family. Brother refuses to let us speak and see him. Dads long term friends cannot see or speak with him as well. I believe dad is being taking advantage of in his weakened state
APS is useless and will give me no info
Went to guardianship 2 years ago and judge did not listen to anything and court evaluator did nothing as well
What can I do now. I believe isolation is taking place and I have proof that brother is stealing dads money
Why doesn't law enforcement and APS understand that when someone is being isolated from family members and long term friends including clergy something is wrong
In my opinion it's about the money. Me and my family have always had a great relationship with dad and only until he got sick and brother moved him into his house everything became crazy
Now brother is buyin large ticket items and probably saying it is in dad best interest. Brother also says dad does not want to see long term friends and family. Anyone can tell dad is very sick. When I saw dad 2 years ago he could not take care of himself personally and financially
The system is broken, and it its really scarey how people can take advantage of elderly people
i will not give up, my dad deserves better, though I really believe now my efforts are useless
One great thought I got from a friend, go back to court and just ask for visitation rights for my family. This sounds simple but the court system in my experience in very broken as well
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Hugs to you, Laura
Wouldn't you think they would think it is abuse isolates an elderly man with Alzheimers and proof that brother just purchased large ticket items, never purchased before by him
I believe that APS and law enforcement is so overwhelmed they don't look at everything
So the elderly and frail suffer from people that know how to abuse the system. My dads intent was never to be isolated from his friends and family and I believe he is being taken advantage of in his weakened state. How does a son just stand by and continue to let this happen, though I continue to try every day to see my dad and get him help
Probably your brother has obtained incapacity letters and the POA is completely in force so that he is in fact legally making all decisions. I cannot think of any other avenue unless he can be removed as POA for cause and an eldercare attorney armed with the actual POA papers and the evidence you have presented to others could tell you if that is possible or not. If they say no, there is no chance of making that change, you've shot your wad and brother "wins..." hopefully that does not mean Dad "loses" in terms of getting decent care, and I sense that is the greatest concern you have; but if APS has already been involved and investigated, it may not be a totally bad care situation or bad enough for them to be forced to act at least. If you were counting on any kind of inheritance, definitely make alternate plans.
Don't even know if dad is seeing señor who he is. Spoke with dr dad was seeing for 10
Years. His office called
My dad with no response
So frustrating. The problem is my brother controls who my father speak to. He says dad is fine though he is very sick with advanced alzheimers
Are you in contact with your dad's doctor? S/He can't tell you anything, but s/he can certainly listen to what you have to say. If you think that your father is being abused, financially or in any other way, that's who I would discuss it with. If you have proof of financial malfeasance , go to the DA.
Brother has POA
dont know what to do to help my dad
Is brother being paid to care for Dad? Medicaid regulations in many states permit transfer of the home to a family caregiver when they have provided medically necessary care for a period of two years. How long has brother cared for Dad?
The restriction on visiting may be in Dad's best interest. In my case if sibs visit or call especially late in the day, sundowning time, the contact really confuses my Mom and sometimes becomes agitation which is very difficult for everybody.
Who is living in the house your brother bought?
Curious how did you get a Deed to a house that your brother had purchased? A Deed normally is presented to the new owner at the time of Settlement when a house is purchased. Were you present at Settlement?
I believe there is more to this story when what is being told.
APS does nothing, they say dad is safe. They are not giving me any info. Why would brother refuse to let me or family see or speak with my dad. Why do I have proof that brother is making big purchases. The system has let my dad down, and I am frustrated. Isn't elder abuse about isolation, control, undue influence, lack of medical care, and forcing someone to give you ther money. This is what I believe is happening to my dad in his weakened state
A POA does not give the right to take someone's money. A POA is for that person to take control of the finances when a person is no longer able to, to pay bills, buy food, medical expenses, etc. A POA can't take out a whole bunch of money & buy a car for themselves.
You don't give any other historical background about your brother & father. How did your brother end up as POA? Is your father living in his home or is your brother living in your father's home? If it were me, I'd go to the house unannounced, ring the doorbell & see what happens. Maybe your father will answer the door & invite you in.
Is your brother caring for dad in his home? Are you willing to take that on? Does dad have enough funds for his care going forward, or might he need Medicaid down the road. If the latter is the case, you might mention to your brother in the nicest possible way, that there will be a penalty period if there has been any "gifting" of large amounts of cash.