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We are about to change our residency to Arizona from Ohio since we spend 7 months there. My mother lives in Ohio and does not want to go with us to AZ in the fall. Don't know what to do!!!!
"Can you go to an AL/Nursing/ Memory care in a state that you are not a resident of?" Its not that you can't so much but there are so many factor's involved with u. Medicare goes from state to state but supplimentals don't. Moving Mom will probably be permanent because her decline will be steady. Looks like there is no way for her to spend 6 months in Ohio and 6 months in AZ. She would need to pay for her Condo and a place to live in AZ too. The other factor is her Dementia. She will not be able to live on her own much longer. Do you want to do her care from 1600+ miles away? In moving her she will lose her Ohio residency status but I see no way you can avoid it.
Your profile says you have seen a decline in Mom. This will continue. Yes, she wants to stay in familiar surroundings but are your siblings willing to take on her care. If so, then find a nice AL before you leave because in my opinion, even in the early stages a person suffering from Dementia should not be alone. That way most of her needs are met. It just means a family member needs to make sure she has what the AL doesn't provide and visit. If this is not feasible, than it's now what Mom needs not what she wants. You need to look ahead. Her Dementia will worsen and she will need 24/7care. In this event do "you" want her close or 1600 miles away?
I am all for "I am the Caregiver so things go my way". Sounds harsh saying it that way but people lose the ability to have it their way when being taken care by others who have and need lives of their own. Their are always compromises but in the long run the Caregiver should have the say. You can't keep 2 places going forever. You are going to tire of it. So you have picked AZ, no problem. But to care for Mom she needs to move with you. I suggest finding a nice AL nearby. Putting her in a place of her own may not be doable unless you are willing to be there all the time as her Dementia causes her decline. Believe me things can change overnight. The nurses where I worked called it an episode. My Mom forgot how to use a phone and a remote. She left a pan on the Stove. My nephew lived with her at the time but after a UTI she came to stay with me. Then I placed her in a nice AL.
Big decisions here. I hope u have POA, makes things easier.
As I understand your situation you are "snowbirds" in AZ from Ohio and you are changing your official residency for tax and voting purposes. I assume your mother is in Ohio and wishes to remain there. If she lives in an Assisted Living apartment or in Memory care or a nursing home in Ohio she is a resident of Ohio, it doesn't matter what your residency is or where you live. She can live in Ohio and you can live wherever you want. She can even stay with you in AZ for extended periods and not have to change her residency as long as she has a domicile (apartment, house, living situation such as a assisted living unit). If I were solving this problem I'd lean to making your move to AZ and having your MOM move to an assisted living unit.
I can't tell from your question if your Mom currently lives WITH you and that she would have to move into an assisted living situation and out of your home only for the period of time you are in AZ. If that is your plan it will be very disruptive and potentially expensive. It would be better to permanently move your mother into assisted living in Ohio so she doesn't have the disruption of a new living situation twice a year to say nothing of the worry of being on waiting lists, entrance and move costs with each new living situation.
By proceeding, I agree that I understand the following disclosures:
I. How We Work in Washington.
Based on your preferences, we provide you with information about one or more of our contracted senior living providers ("Participating Communities") and provide your Senior Living Care Information to Participating Communities. The Participating Communities may contact you directly regarding their services.
APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
II. How We Are Paid.
We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour.
APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
IV. No Obligation or Commitment.
You have no obligation to use or to continue to use our services. Because you pay no fee to us, you will never need to ask for a refund.
V. Complaints.
Please contact our Family Feedback Line at (866) 584-7340 or ConsumerFeedback@aplaceformom.com to report any complaint. Consumers have many avenues to address a dispute with any referral service company, including the right to file a complaint with the Attorney General's office at: Consumer Protection Division, 800 5th Avenue, Ste. 2000, Seattle, 98104 or 800-551-4636.
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Your profile says you have seen a decline in Mom. This will continue. Yes, she wants to stay in familiar surroundings but are your siblings willing to take on her care. If so, then find a nice AL before you leave because in my opinion, even in the early stages a person suffering from Dementia should not be alone. That way most of her needs are met. It just means a family member needs to make sure she has what the AL doesn't provide and visit. If this is not feasible, than it's now what Mom needs not what she wants. You need to look ahead. Her Dementia will worsen and she will need 24/7care. In this event do "you" want her close or 1600 miles away?
I am all for "I am the Caregiver so things go my way". Sounds harsh saying it that way but people lose the ability to have it their way when being taken care by others who have and need lives of their own. Their are always compromises but in the long run the Caregiver should have the say. You can't keep 2 places going forever. You are going to tire of it. So you have picked AZ, no problem. But to care for Mom she needs to move with you. I suggest finding a nice AL nearby. Putting her in a place of her own may not be doable unless you are willing to be there all the time as her Dementia causes her decline. Believe me things can change overnight. The nurses where I worked called it an episode. My Mom forgot how to use a phone and a remote. She left a pan on the Stove. My nephew lived with her at the time but after a UTI she came to stay with me. Then I placed her in a nice AL.
Big decisions here. I hope u have POA, makes things easier.
I can't tell from your question if your Mom currently lives WITH you and that she would have to move into an assisted living situation and out of your home only for the period of time you are in AZ. If that is your plan it will be very disruptive and potentially expensive. It would be better to permanently move your mother into assisted living in Ohio so she doesn't have the disruption of a new living situation twice a year to say nothing of the worry of being on waiting lists, entrance and move costs with each new living situation.