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Just found out that my MIL’s SS check is still going into an old account that she had with my husband and my BIL. BIL is spending her check on his own needs. Meanwhile she’s been in the NH since last October and we thought her SS check was going to the NH. Confronted BIL about this and we were told that Integra is paying the bill until February. Really? MIL is 92 and hasn’t had LTC insurance all along ... BIL enrolled her last year maybe when her assets were too high to get Medicaid to get to the 5 year look back. I can’t see an insurance company paying for 16 months of nursing care just because they want to be nice. Usually you have to be a policy holder for years to get any kind of coverage I would think. Can’t figure this out for the life of me so figured I’d ask here if anyone has had this kind of experience.

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Just read about MIL being in rehab. Is this plan BIL got a Medicaid plan? My nephew is on Medicaid and they use private insurance companies. My nephew is with Horizon BC/BS.

With rehab Medicare pays the first 20 days 100%. 21 to 100 50% which means the patient is responsible for the other 50 %. This is either out of pocket or the secondary pays partial or all of the balance. Depends on how good the secondary policy is? With my Mom, 5 yrs ago she paid $150 a day.

You may want to talk to your County Office of Aging. They maybe able to give you some insight on this insurance especially if Medicaid. At least that will help you understand what is going on.

BIL has to stop spending MILs SS. Since SS does not recognize POAs, your husband may be able to become her payee. Then he can set up a different acct and have her money transferred there.
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"Integra Managed Care is a New York State Managed Long Term Care Plan designed for adults living with long-term disabilities. Our goal is to help our members live safely and independently in the comfort of their own home."

I also read this is a Medicare Advantage Health insurance plan by the same name. MAs do not usually pay for LTC nor does Medicare itself. I also understand that Longterm care insurance itself needs to be purchased years in advance.

See if husband can get some information from the NH MIL is in. Talk to the billing department and ask if she has a balance due on the acct.

Does BIL have POA? BIL could be brought up on charges for using Mom's SS on himself especially if he is a payee. If DH is still on the account, I would find what rights he has. If none, I would have his name removed because BIL is committing fraud. You may want to consult a lawyer.

If BIL is POA and abusing it, a lawyer maybe able to revoke it. Or, you go thru the expense of becoming MILs guardian. If you win and MIL has the money, you may be able to use her money to pay for it.

February is not that far off. In my State it takes about 90days to get Medicaid. With my Mom, I applied in April, she was placed in LTC May 1st. She private paid May and June which gave me time to get her spent down and the caseworker all the info he needed. June I confirmed he had all the info needed and Medicaid started July 1st.
Once on Medicaid MIL's SS (and any pension) will go towards the cost of her care. I allowed the NH to become payee to my Moms SS and pension. One less thing I had to worry about.

IMO you need to get a handle on this now and that means a lawyer. At least a consult to find out if ur DH could be held responsible in any way for Moms care.

Mom may have been able to qualify for Medicaid if your State allows a Miller trust or something similar. With a MT the money Mom is over goes into the Trust. When she passes, the Trust reverts to Medicaid. Makes sure the lawyer u consult is an elder lawyer versed in Medicaid.
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my mom had LTC insurance her policy was that she had to pay 99 days out of pocket before it would kick in
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Pegshere Sep 2021
Did your mom get the policy when she had the need for it or was it in place for a time before she needed to use it? We had to pay when my MIL was in the hospital before BIL found this coverage and before she went into the NH. She ran out of days on her Medicare so we were billed at a percentage of the daily rate. What gets me is that this feels like he got insurance after the fact if you know what I mean. It’s like oh gee my house burnt down let me take out an insurance policy and we all know insurance just doesn’t work that way ... so thinking my BIL is In for a rude awakening!
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I would question BIL a LOT more.
If necessary contact an attorney to do a bit of forensic study on the account, the insurance .
Have you contacted the Nursing Home to find out exactly how they are being paid?
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Pegshere Sep 2021
Since he’s the one that made all the arrangements I’m pretty sure no one will give us the time of day. If he ends up in trouble I just want to make sure all the problems are his. He’s the one spending her SS check so it’s only fair he gets to pay the piper! Hoping maybe I stirred the hornets nest up a bit just by letting him know that we’re aware of his spending of money that’s not really his!
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