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I am unsure if my sister's POA is even legal, and was she able to use it legally in another state to admit my mother to a nursing home where u contracted covid 19 and passed away
I am confused. Can't figure out if this is a hypothetical scenario or it happened. If you have lost your mother I am so sorry.
If Mom has passed being illegal or not does not matter. And if a NC nursing home excepted the POA, I guess it was OK. POA stops at death. My question would be why did she take Mom to NC? Is that where sister lived?
A lot of POAs live in a different state then where the principle lives. And the POA was probably done in the principles state. There are some people who have been assigned and not known it. I don't think POAs vary that much from State to State. Its basically the wishes of the principle. The person assigned is a representative and follows the wishes of the principle. Makes decisions on what is best for the principle.
An attorney can advise if the POA is compliant with the original state's laws.
If the POA is valid, the POA will "cross state lines". Just because it's executed in one state and complies with the laws of that state doesn't mean it is not valid in another state.
I work in the legal department of an insurer - I review POAs a few times a day. It doesn't matter to us if they reside in a different state from where the POA was executed. It just matters if it was compliant with the law of the state where the POA purports to be executed. From the personal, non-legal side, I drafted my family members' POAs, and not one has been refused due to a difference in states where POA was drafted versus the state of current residence.
You need to provide a copy of the POA to an attorney to know the answer to your question. To many variables for anything but speculation here.
One thing I do know, nursing homes will not accept anyone unless they have a need for skilled care, you can not just take someone to a nursing home and pur them in. They have requirements that must be met.
I am sorry for the loss of your mom and I pray that you can find peace. We die when our time is up, no matter where we are or how we are doing.
By proceeding, I agree that I understand the following disclosures:
I. How We Work in Washington.
Based on your preferences, we provide you with information about one or more of our contracted senior living providers ("Participating Communities") and provide your Senior Living Care Information to Participating Communities. The Participating Communities may contact you directly regarding their services.
APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
II. How We Are Paid.
We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour.
APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
IV. No Obligation or Commitment.
You have no obligation to use or to continue to use our services. Because you pay no fee to us, you will never need to ask for a refund.
V. Complaints.
Please contact our Family Feedback Line at (866) 584-7340 or ConsumerFeedback@aplaceformom.com to report any complaint. Consumers have many avenues to address a dispute with any referral service company, including the right to file a complaint with the Attorney General's office at: Consumer Protection Division, 800 5th Avenue, Ste. 2000, Seattle, 98104 or 800-551-4636.
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APFM does not (and may not) require or even ask consumers seeking senior housing or care services in Washington State to sign waivers of liability for losses of personal property or injury or to sign waivers of any rights established under law.
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I authorize A Place For Mom ("APFM") to collect certain personal and contact detail information, as well as relevant health care information about me or from me about the senior family member or relative I am assisting ("Senior Living Care Information").
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If Mom has passed being illegal or not does not matter. And if a NC nursing home excepted the POA, I guess it was OK. POA stops at death. My question would be why did she take Mom to NC? Is that where sister lived?
A lot of POAs live in a different state then where the principle lives. And the POA was probably done in the principles state. There are some people who have been assigned and not known it. I don't think POAs vary that much from State to State. Its basically the wishes of the principle. The person assigned is a representative and follows the wishes of the principle. Makes decisions on what is best for the principle.
If the POA is valid, the POA will "cross state lines". Just because it's executed in one state and complies with the laws of that state doesn't mean it is not valid in another state.
I work in the legal department of an insurer - I review POAs a few times a day. It doesn't matter to us if they reside in a different state from where the POA was executed. It just matters if it was compliant with the law of the state where the POA purports to be executed. From the personal, non-legal side, I drafted my family members' POAs, and not one has been refused due to a difference in states where POA was drafted versus the state of current residence.
One thing I do know, nursing homes will not accept anyone unless they have a need for skilled care, you can not just take someone to a nursing home and pur them in. They have requirements that must be met.
I am sorry for the loss of your mom and I pray that you can find peace. We die when our time is up, no matter where we are or how we are doing.