My Mom is on oxygen and unable to walk very far. About 4 years ago I moved her into our home. My wife resents my Mom's presence. I know this is not the ideal for any of us but I am doing the best I can. This is particularly hard for me as I have helped raise my wife's kids as my own. I love my wife but I don't understand her. She complains at anything I do for my mom and stops short of insulating that I have an unhealthy attachment to my Mom. I am sick of the complaints about my Mom about my siblings lack of involvement (which is somewhat justified). What my wife doesn't see is that I still love her but the constant complaining from her is killing that love. I feel guilty because I long for the day that I am free of the responsibility of caring for mom AND free from this woman that is killing what feelings I have left for her. If it weren't for my kids, I would take Mom somewhere else and walk away from this fiasco.
Sometimes a really nice caring man marries a woman who is not so nice and caring and until the severe stress of your Mom you never woke to the person she truly is. You have to decide what is best for you.
Your Mother will be gone one day and what will you have for yourself? We all have to make steps everyday towards this or grief of our present situation can really drag us to the depths of a personal hell.
If that 25 minutes is a marriage killer, then we are doomed to begin with. I don't think my wife hates my Mom. She hates that our house is cramped and that we are financially unable to change that. I get that." Ok, so your house is cramped because your mom lives with you and, I think you mentioned earlier, that your mom has the best room in the house. My guess is that's the master bedroom because it has the bathroom attached. So, in all fairness to your wife, it's not about 25 minutes, it's about feeling displaced and crowded 24/7, 365 days a year for 4 years. Let's at least give her that.
Clearly you have a job outside the home. Does your wife work? If so who looks out for your mom while you are gone. Can your mom get to the bathroom safely on her own while you are working. Does your wife do anything to help her while you work? You say all your wife does is put out an extra plate at the dinner table. Who gives your mom lunch or breakfast? It sounds like she is diabetic so she probably needs her blood sugar tested more than once a day. If you only spend 25 minutes with her a day, I would think she is very lonely.
I'm not trying to nit pik here and maybe there is much more you could explain, but find it too overwhelming to go into all the details. I would understand, but as you have explained it, something doesn't add up.
It sounds like you have been on a wild ride with the daughters. I'm assuming that their trials and tribulations were also hard on your wife. Maybe she was hoping for a second chance at being a successful mother in raising the boys to be responsible adults. You did say that she is a good mother to them. That's something to be grateful for and to respect. Even after four years of being unhappy with the living arrangements, she is still with you and still has it in her to be a good mom to the boys.
I understand that you want fairness. You want her to give to you what you feel you have given to her children. You want her to support you during this time with your mom so you can live with yourself and not feel guilty about abandoning your mom.
Here's the truth, not all people are like you. Look at your siblings. I assume they grew up in the same household as you, saw all the wonderful and selfless examples set by your parents. Still, they will not help with the care of your mom.
Possibly, finances are also a problem and you can't afford to put your mom in an assisted living facility that you have confidence in. It's cheaper to do it yourself and you feel better having her under your roof. I don't know what your mom's finances are but my "guess" would be that they are minimal. Nevertheless, your mom might be happier somewhere else, where her care is provided and she has the company of others. Plus she will have the benefit of your visits, maybe even as a whole family. Maybe your wife would even go so far as to visit her while you are working. Things can shift if you make room for the shift.
You say your mom has been with you for 4 years. Your boys are 12 and 13, so they were 8 and 9 when she moved in with you. You can't get those years back with your children.
If you have been to therapy, hopefully you realize that just because we are a certain way, we don't have the right to insist that everyone we love be the same way we are. The fairness blame game is a losing proposition. If we love them, we have to accept them for who they are. They can't always be what we need. That comes from within ourselves.
I'm not making any recommendations, just offering some food for thought.
PS My parents fought throughout my teen years. I would have been grateful to have lived in a small apartment with my mother, visited with my father whenever possible, and lived in peace. When my step-grandmother moved in instead, I had a friend and protector. That was the only way I survived their fighting and the tenseness. This is why I am worried for your children.
Also, I know men who put their Mom's first. Won't stand up for the wife with family. The wife knows she is second place and the bitterness grows.
I am reading posts on here where peole seem to be taking sides. There is no way any of us can really tell who is right or wrong in this situation. Your wife I am sure will have a totally different story.
That is why you need to look at all sides of this with the help of someone else.
I am as big a defender of women as anyone. I have three daughters for goodness sake. But if ranting about how "horrible" your wife is makes you feel better, then that is what this site is for. For goodness sake, we rant about our Mothers until the cows come home. It is about releasing stress.
Perhaps I am giving a skewed picture of things. I can be moody and so on.
As far as my siblings. I have asked. I might as well ask Rick Perry to increase social security.
And you are correct. I don't need yours or anyone else's permission to make my life's decisions. Looking at the board I had gotten a smorgasbord of advice. Perhaps it wasn't advice I was seek. I guess I had to vent. But this is clearly not the venue for that.
Alot of assumptions are being made here. For the most part, my wife and I do not argue in front of the kids. Also, someone mentioned PMS, I didn't. The fact is no one here knows enough about our lives to give advice. Either to denigrate my wife or make me a saint. That includes you Pam. I will leave you to consult with your man-hating shrew friends as well as the folks who think I am a good humble son. I don't know about that either. I am just doing my level best to navigate this path I chose.
Sorry Pam, I should know my place. I am male and male = wrong!
I will leave you and the other wise ones to discuss. I am checking out of this discussion and going back to dealing with my business.
Your siblings need to be involved, it's clearly wrong that they are not. If they do not wish to be a physical presence, then they should cough up some money for some respite care for their mother, so that you and your wife can take some date nights, or your family can vacation together.
But I will tell you honestly, I don't really see you asking for help. I think you came here to tell us what a witch you think your wife is. You have succeeded too; just look at how many people you got to denigrate a woman that they don't even personally know. All the while making yourself look like a saint. If you want to leave your wife, you don't need anyone's approval; or do you?
That said, anyone who takes someone else's children and does what you have done is a hero in my book. Your wife owes you. I know she may feel neglected or maybe she is just selfish, as I said before.
I think the counceling would help you find the right path. And I still worry about the 13 and 12 year old.
You seem to have a great sense of responsiblity. Someone needs to help you find happiness among all of this stress. How to find peace in your life is essential and a "good" councelor may be able to get you there.
No one here wants to beat you up. We only get bits and pieces and try to put together a senario. But one thing I do see is a selfless man with a good heart. Take care.
Yes. In fact it was discussed prior to our being married. While dating my mom had a aneurysm. She survived and was under my care for 4 months. Why? My oldest brother wanted to send her to a nursing home as soon as she got out the hospital. I was compelled to not allow that.
Back then she was understanding because I could not see her much. That was then, this is now.
Now as far as anything that is done for my Mom now. The extent of my wife's care taking is fixing an extra plate at dinner time. That is it. I clean mom's bath room, scrub the toilet change her sheets, etc ad nauseaum. So I don't see how my wife's not so subtle remarks are caused by her duties.
Imagine if after a few years, I would have said to my wife, "This isn't working out with the kids. I think we should put our marriage 1st and send them off to their bio-Dad." I think if I said that to her she would have kicked me to the curb and rightfully so! But I did not. I attempted to fill the shoes of the girls bio-dad as best I could. And after several years of teen rebellion and teenage pregnancies, I can tell you that it ain't been a cakewalk. No heart is colder than a teenage girl in rebellion.
I love the girls, (and for those wondering, my mom accepted them as her Grandchildren). The 30 year old is just now working on her GED. I can't count the times that I have rolled out at 2am to pick her up and take her to the ER for drugs, alcohol, or domestic abuse. The younger girl is 25 with three kids. 1st pregnancy at 16. Both girls have probably hated me at some point but they have come to love me know. My IQ as gained proportional to their age.
I don't really wanna go into all the crap that the daughters have done to mess up their lives. My wife once told me, "I love you but your baggage is hard to deal with." I said "My baggage! Babe, I have a backpack worth of baggage compared to the set of loaded sampsonites you came loaded with. I didn't just accept your baggage, I embraced it and did my best to care for it. I just need a little understanding now."
When my oldest son was born, I did not put him first above the marriage or other kids. But I did have to do more for him. Why? He was an infant. Now no one said, I think you are ignoring my needs to change his diapers! I spend an average of 25 minutes every night making sure that Mom gets her meds, her blood sugar test and cleaning her room before I got to bed or go to work.
If that 25 minutes is a marriage killer, then we are doomed to begin with. I don't think my wife hates my Mom. She hates that our house is cramped and that we are financially unable to change that. I get that. I guess when I am doing stuff for my Mom that should be obvious to even the untrained eye she is not capable of doing, I don't feel like hearing a ration of shit about it.
I don't want a freakin medal. I just want to be able to do what I gotta do.
I LOVE MY WIFE! But when I compliment her she negates it. She complains about her weight, looks, hair, or you name it. This critique of self is not coming from me. I am 48 and am long past the days of chasing cheerleaders. I love her the way she is. (not the way she behaves at times).
Counseling is good but not a cure-all. Especially if the one that needs it the most doesn't see the need.
#1 Prior to marriage do we discuss taking care of our parents? Probably not, but should. #2 I take offense for all women when I hear "it's probably her time of the month" or "She's menopausal or hormonal." Deal with it. Without these 'hormone's my friends none of us would be walking planet earth. I think it's time we show more respect and compassion and less insults and blame toward woman. Besides, men too have this going on but due to a lack of research we discount it. #3 What DOES your wife do for "your" mother? Maybe there is more than jealousy (if) going on here. She signed up to be a wife and a mother, not a care taker, correct? Was she in agreement to your mother moving in? Was there a time limit put on this agreement? Is this your decision alone regardless of what your 'life partner" wanted? How thorough was this discussed? Also one does not know what they are in for until they are in it. Maybe a family meeting would help.
I felt compelled to make this decision and forced to view my life and make the necessary changes prior to my care-taking. I would (if I were you) treat your wife to a night out, and humble yourself to discuss this arrangement and the impact it is having on your relationship with her. My guess is that she is sacrificing far more than you are giving her credit for. The decision for taking care of a parent must be made out of love and not guilt or finances. There are other options that you could discuss the pros and cons of that will allow you more harmony in your commitment to your wife and your relationship with her.
Women/Men with nurturing abilities typically find themselves taken for granted and then become confused as to how to turn it around; They now seem to stand alone in their confusion since those people around them are benefitting and don't see the need to disrupt their life to now accommodate hers/his.
I am a woman, and therefore, understand a little about how women feel about their homes being disturbed. And, although I feel what she is going through, I do not feel that she is being loving or kind about the situation. It is one thing to vent, but, to lash out with the hurting comments that she is doing, tells me something else about her. I feel that she is selfish, jealous, and unyielding. She does not want you to feel love for anyone but, her, and the children you have together. People who love their spouse do not hurl insulting remarks, out of anger. She is being hurtful and selfish. I would sit her down, and tell her that she is hurting you by her remarks, and that they have to stop. Have you thought about a nursing home for your mom. I am certain that she can also feel the dislike from your wife. Life is too short to live in unhappiness. Hugs.
This is killing your marriage buddy. There is nothing that cuts deeper than a wife who constantly nags you...but, there are underlying causes that are irritating her. I don't understand the reasoning why she would be "jealous" of your relationship with your Mom, Mom isn't always going to be around, and your wife's condescending words and actions are like bricks, being added to the wall of your heart. What I'm wondering is, why your boys can't watch Mom while you and the wife go have your date night...It seems to me the entire family needs to pull TOGETHER, instead of being selfish and pushing each other away from one another. When you married this woman, she promised to love, honor and cherish you til you drop dead, sorry, but when you marry someone, you enter their family as well. Wifey needs to realize her position and SUPPORT you in your decision to take care of your Mom. There is no I in TEAM, and this is definitely a team effort.
Your wife is jealous of the love you have for your Mother and the attention you give to her because she is starved for your love and attention. If you have any love for your wife left start a new project and make the time everyday to tell her you love her, sit with her, talk with her but not about your mom or the kids, if you can't find anything to talk about then don't, it will come back when she starts to feel more loved... ask yourself some serious questions like do you ever make love to your wife or is it infrequent? I know it's only normal for this kind of interest to slow down after 20 yrs of marriage because I've been married this long myself.. but I can also tell that my husband and I feel so much closer to each other and are more inclined to be open and honest with our feelings when this part of our relationship isn't neglected. I know sex isn't that appealing when you get older and less attractive or overweight also but if you look at it as an expression of love and intimacy you can get past all those barriers. Make it an important part of your relationship at least once a week even if one or both of you aren't really into it. Another thing you can do is remember how you acted with your wife when you first fell in love with her. Did you hold her hand, sit close to her. Did you actually cuddle? these things might be just what she needs. If she has never been like that then you know it's not the case.
I had a very similar experience as your wife after I married my husband who I've now been married to over 21 yrs. After we were married I noticed that he was especially close to his son from a previous marriage and I wasn't jealous of his giving his son attention but more over how he would always defend his son when he was wrong about something or needed correction.. I had to learn to let it go and eventually I did and I to deeply love this Son as my own now. But what made me get those resentful feelings was that I was insecure about weather or not my husband loved me that much, as much as he loved his son. I somehow was able to communicate and my husband understood enough to see I was insecure and he made sure to give me the attention I needed. Eventually, I became secure in my husbands love for me and those resentful feelings could be minimized or let go of, I could look at my husband and instead of thinking "he doesn't love me that much" I could look at him with his son or when we talked about his son and think to myself "he is such a good father and really does love that boy"..
I know you are really stressed and the marriage is very strained and this means work to change things for the better but think about it...your wife is your life long partner your companion, trusted friend and more.. it's worth the effort to get her to the point where she no longer expresses resentful feelings by harsh comments but will instead look at you helping your Mother and want to help you and have her thoughts and comments to you be "you are such a good son" and really appreciate what a loyal, devoted and loving man you are.
My sister and my mother did a lot for us from cleaning the house to caring for our dogs while we went on trips. At one point I had my mother –in-law living with us also since her own sons wouldn’t take her in.
We never paid back any of the money we used to pay that second mortgage off so I took that as we made a commitment to put a roof over my mothers and sisters head .
After 8 years of this my wife couldn’t take anymore of this even though she help create this household. Once things started to come to the point where my mother needed more care and my ex-wife who has chronic migraines said basically they move out or me . I told her that if she went keep going because my family did a lot for her and family and she was ungrateful. Sometimes there isn’t a good answer and do what you have to do . My mother is now in a nursing home and I am caring for my sister who helps me quite a bit
Now, first thing I might do is try counseling by laying your cards out on the table, especially your feelings. Your wife, darling that she is, should also put her cards on the table. A good counselor will guide you through this process.
In the end, however, I suspect that finding another place to live for your mother with an extra bedroom for yourself, is the most-likely way to go. I may be wrong on this. Your kids will understand. They will hear guff and complaints from their mother, of course. Perhaps, lies, but you must be strong. THIS MARRIAGE IS IN TROUBLE.
The important thing here is the 13 and 12 year old. What are they experiencing growing up in such stress. Maybe it would be better to put your Mom in AL or a NH and work on the marriage. Sounds as if there are several extreme stressor in your life.
Take care of your family first. Your Mom will someday no longer be with you and your family could be in shambles. Make your family your first priority.