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You were regularly compensated for being a loyal employee. That compensation is called wages (money). You received wages (money) from the person or person who employed you for 18 years in exchange for you providing caregiving services.
Your employment ended. Your former employer(s) don't owe you anything.
You didn't work for free for the last 18 years because you're not a slave or an indentured servant with an 18 year term of indenture.
If you did work without being paid for the last 18 years that's on you and no one else.
I am going to assume that you wanted a severance package for when your client passed away because I cannot believe you weren't being paid for 18 years of employment.
It's been three years, you are not going to get anything. Realize that and move on.
I don't think any caregiver has ever gotten a severance package in the entire history of homecare work. This kind of work does not have severance packages. The client died and that's the end of the posotion.
I do hope you were paid. You never work free for compensation later unless it's in writing, signed and notarized in a lawyers office. It would have been nice if the client had left you something or even the son compensated you in some way but neither of them owe u anything if you were paid for time worked. Are you saying you never received a Christmas bonus, little gifts now and then? You were not given something of hers when she passed?
After 18 years of private care maybe there was no money. Maybe everything had been set up as beneficiaries to bypass probate. Put in Trust. May have had no need of a Will. If the Will was done way before her Dementia, it could not be changed.
Three years have gone by so I personally would say nothing.
Sometimes we are mentioned in wills. It's been known to happen. It does not happen if the client didn't hire you themselves though.
When adult kids are handling the client's money, there's no mention of the caregivers in the will. The caregivers are lucky if we get invited to attend the funeral and the reception after if there is one. Better make sure and take some money because they are always a cash bar and no client family is ever buying a round for mom and dad's caregivers.
"Compensation" or "inheritance"? If you "worked" for this lady for 18 years, you were compensated. Leaving you an inheritance was up to HER, not her son.
I am not certain if this is a "real post". I have heretofore in my 81 years of life not heard yet of someone who does a job for 18 years that offers no compensation, and then suddenly asked, AFTER 18 years, to be compensated.
I can only say that I think your chances are not good for getting this compensation 18 years after the fact.
Your post may serve as a lesson to others to get care contracts together when the care begins.
No matter what transpired, what you were paid (if anything) in the past or whatever, it would be unconsciounable for you to retroactively ask for "compensation" when you were doing everything on a one-way assumption.
No, do not ask, do not even broach this topic with him. Let it go and count it as a lesson learned: discuss everything upfront and get everything in writing.
Were you paid during those 18 years? Were you paid fairly? (actually that does not matter now since you accepted the pay and continued to work) If you were not paid for 18 years that is on you. You should have quit 17 years, 11 months and 25 days prior to her death. (this 25 days is + or - a few) If the mother "promised" you any extra compensation and it wad not in writing, not added to the Will then the "promise" is worthless.
If you WANT to ask for "extra, a bonus" if you will then just come out and ask. The worst that can be said is NO. (and expect the NO response)
By proceeding, I agree that I understand the following disclosures:
I. How We Work in Washington.
Based on your preferences, we provide you with information about one or more of our contracted senior living providers ("Participating Communities") and provide your Senior Living Care Information to Participating Communities. The Participating Communities may contact you directly regarding their services.
APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
II. How We Are Paid.
We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour.
APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
IV. No Obligation or Commitment.
You have no obligation to use or to continue to use our services. Because you pay no fee to us, you will never need to ask for a refund.
V. Complaints.
Please contact our Family Feedback Line at (866) 584-7340 or ConsumerFeedback@aplaceformom.com to report any complaint. Consumers have many avenues to address a dispute with any referral service company, including the right to file a complaint with the Attorney General's office at: Consumer Protection Division, 800 5th Avenue, Ste. 2000, Seattle, 98104 or 800-551-4636.
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APFM does not (and may not) require or even ask consumers seeking senior housing or care services in Washington State to sign waivers of liability for losses of personal property or injury or to sign waivers of any rights established under law.
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I authorize A Place For Mom ("APFM") to collect certain personal and contact detail information, as well as relevant health care information about me or from me about the senior family member or relative I am assisting ("Senior Living Care Information").
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Your employment ended. Your former employer(s) don't owe you anything.
You didn't work for free for the last 18 years because you're not a slave or an indentured servant with an 18 year term of indenture.
If you did work without being paid for the last 18 years that's on you and no one else.
It's been three years, you are not going to get anything. Realize that and move on.
I don't think any caregiver has ever gotten a severance package in the entire history of homecare work. This kind of work does not have severance packages.
The client died and that's the end of the posotion.
After 18 years of private care maybe there was no money. Maybe everything had been set up as beneficiaries to bypass probate. Put in Trust. May have had no need of a Will. If the Will was done way before her Dementia, it could not be changed.
Three years have gone by so I personally would say nothing.
Sometimes CG's are mentioned in wills, most often, they are not.
I would NEVER presume to ask. Also, if she passed 3 years ago? The will has probably been done and the inheritance long since divvied up.
Sometimes we are mentioned in wills. It's been known to happen. It does not happen if the client didn't hire you themselves though.
When adult kids are handling the client's money, there's no mention of the caregivers in the will. The caregivers are lucky if we get invited to attend the funeral and the reception after if there is one. Better make sure and take some money because they are always a cash bar and no client family is ever buying a round for mom and dad's caregivers.
I have heretofore in my 81 years of life not heard yet of someone who does a job for 18 years that offers no compensation, and then suddenly asked, AFTER 18 years, to be compensated.
I can only say that I think your chances are not good for getting this compensation 18 years after the fact.
Your post may serve as a lesson to others to get care contracts together when the care begins.
No, do not ask, do not even broach this topic with him. Let it go and count it as a lesson learned: discuss everything upfront and get everything in writing.
Never gonna happen, even if you had a leg to stand on in 2021, it has dissolved under statute of limitations.
Besides, as you say, a former employers son, he has NO obligation to you for being his moms former employee.
Move on and learn from whatever this situation is.
If you were not paid for 18 years that is on you. You should have quit 17 years, 11 months and 25 days prior to her death. (this 25 days is + or - a few)
If the mother "promised" you any extra compensation and it wad not in writing, not added to the Will then the "promise" is worthless.
If you WANT to ask for "extra, a bonus" if you will then just come out and ask. The worst that can be said is NO. (and expect the NO response)
It doesn't make any difference if the Op was paid fairly during their employment or not.
They accepted a job and what that job offered.
Homecare workers are very rarely receive fair pay for fair work.