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Hi JoAnn, yes I did know her daughter was moving in. We didn’t discuss the pay until it was payday and she tried paying me the same which was $15 an hour. I told her I need more money because there is double the work. I said $30 and she said $25 so that’s where I am at. I need to get what other places or people would charge her to come in and do what I do on paper. Then she would see that I’m not trying to charge her to much. I have been there over 2 years and I really enjoy them both. Do you think I should be getting paid more? Money is not a problem she is a very wealthy lady. Thank you Bren
$40 per hour for the both of them seems reasonable considering you say that the daughter needs the same amount of care as the mother. Keep notes in a day planner about what you do for one or both of them on a daily basis just so you have records.
Who is your contract with, and what does your contract say?
You don't say whether these ladies both need a lot of care, or what sort of care, or how much time you're being hired for; and all of those things make a difference too. Not just to how much you should be charging, but to whether or not the workload is manageable for one person, and if it was reasonable or sneaky of the family to piggyback the daughter's needs onto the mother's.
If you don't have a contract, that's a whole 'nother kettle of fish. I hope you have!
Yes, you should charge per person. Maybe not $25 each, but I think something like $40 for both would be reasonable.
Agencies do exactly this. When I was looking for people to shower my mom and grandma. They charged per person with a slight discount for both. This was even though they had minimums. It only takes like 10-15 minutes to shower each one. The agencies have a 2 hour minimum. So they should be able to shower both with plenty of time left over in that 2 hours. But they said since it was two different people, that they would have to charge per person regardless.
That's an interesting question. Will the number of hours you work be increasing? Or are you expected to fit double the tasks into the same amount of time?
By proceeding, I agree that I understand the following disclosures:
I. How We Work in Washington.
Based on your preferences, we provide you with information about one or more of our contracted senior living providers ("Participating Communities") and provide your Senior Living Care Information to Participating Communities. The Participating Communities may contact you directly regarding their services.
APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
II. How We Are Paid.
We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour.
APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
IV. No Obligation or Commitment.
You have no obligation to use or to continue to use our services. Because you pay no fee to us, you will never need to ask for a refund.
V. Complaints.
Please contact our Family Feedback Line at (866) 584-7340 or ConsumerFeedback@aplaceformom.com to report any complaint. Consumers have many avenues to address a dispute with any referral service company, including the right to file a complaint with the Attorney General's office at: Consumer Protection Division, 800 5th Avenue, Ste. 2000, Seattle, 98104 or 800-551-4636.
VI. No Waiver of Your Rights.
APFM does not (and may not) require or even ask consumers seeking senior housing or care services in Washington State to sign waivers of liability for losses of personal property or injury or to sign waivers of any rights established under law.
I agree that:
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I authorize A Place For Mom ("APFM") to collect certain personal and contact detail information, as well as relevant health care information about me or from me about the senior family member or relative I am assisting ("Senior Living Care Information").
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APFM may provide information to me electronically. My electronic signature on agreements and documents has the same effect as if I signed them in ink.
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APFM may send all communications to me electronically via e-mail or by access to an APFM web site.
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If I want a paper copy, I can print a copy of the Disclosures or download the Disclosures for my records.
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This E-Sign Acknowledgement and Authorization applies to these Disclosures and all future Disclosures related to APFM's services, unless I revoke my authorization. You may revoke this authorization in writing at any time (except where we have already disclosed information before receiving your revocation.) This authorization will expire after one year.
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You consent to APFM's reaching out to you using a phone system than can auto-dial numbers (we miss rotary phones, too!), but this consent is not required to use our service.
Was this move in a surprise? Was it discussed with you before the move?
Thank you
Bren
You don't say whether these ladies both need a lot of care, or what sort of care, or how much time you're being hired for; and all of those things make a difference too. Not just to how much you should be charging, but to whether or not the workload is manageable for one person, and if it was reasonable or sneaky of the family to piggyback the daughter's needs onto the mother's.
If you don't have a contract, that's a whole 'nother kettle of fish. I hope you have!
Agencies do exactly this. When I was looking for people to shower my mom and grandma. They charged per person with a slight discount for both. This was even though they had minimums. It only takes like 10-15 minutes to shower each one. The agencies have a 2 hour minimum. So they should be able to shower both with plenty of time left over in that 2 hours. But they said since it was two different people, that they would have to charge per person regardless.