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Its time for someone to be with Mom when she goes and they will need to clean her. Sorry, the second time my Mom got poop on her hands I knew the first time was just an accident.
Lydia, if your sister is not capable of caring for your mother at home, then a 'promise' she made her long ago about not placing her in managed care holds no water any longer. Your sister has to take action to properly care for mom at home or else she's not safe there, meaning, sister has to accompany mom to the bathroom each time and perform the clean up FOR her, ie: wiping her and putting disposable briefs on her, etc. Also, with dementia at play and your sister working, mom should not be left alone at home IF she is being left alone at home, you don't say. She needs someone to be with her 24/7 so these bathroom incidents do not occur.
The advice you got on your other post, and the advice you're getting now, is not to leave mom alone at home at all, to have your sister accompany her to the bathroom each & every time and to perform the clean up FOR her, to dress her in anti-strip clothing as Geaton suggested so she is unable to go to the bathroom alone (meaning she does her business in a Depends exclusively and gets changed by your sister), and/or she gets placed in managed care/Memory Care if and when her care becomes too much for your sister to manage alone at home. An elder with dementia needs specific 24/7 care in the bathroom and with all other aspects of their lives.
Since things haven't gotten any better since last time you posted, it's obviously time(past time actually)to place your mom in a nursing facility where she will receive the 24/7 care she needs and where she will have trained individuals cleaning her up and where she won't be able to get poop all over the place.
To prevent your Mom from attempting to clean herself, there is special "adaptive" clothing for people with dementia so that they cannot remove their clothes.
Thank you lealonnie, I thought I did but didn’t remember thanks for bringing it to my attention. My sister works & my mom does go to the bathroom by herself she checks on her since she’s in the bathroom for awhile. Doesn’t want to put her in a facility since moms memory is very & promised she wouldn’t put her in one. Just wanted some advice. Sorry put it in twice.
If mom is incapable of cleaning herself, then maybe it's time to look at an evaluation of her overall health and abilities.
My 4 yo grandson can clean himself properly and wash hais hands after--basic living skills. If mom can't handle those--you need to see what ELSE she's neglecting.
Is she in adult diapers? Or just not able to reach all the areas? If it's the latter, I would suggest an 'add-on bidet' to the existing toilet. (I am begging DH for one for Christmas!) Having a fresh undercarriage is so nice and shouldn't require a full bath every time.
Also washing afterwards. I had a client who had fecal matter under her nails all the time. I habitually gave her 'manicures' but they really were to clean under her nails. WEAR GLOVES when you do this.
Come back with more info. That's all I've got right now.
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The advice you got on your other post, and the advice you're getting now, is not to leave mom alone at home at all, to have your sister accompany her to the bathroom each & every time and to perform the clean up FOR her, to dress her in anti-strip clothing as Geaton suggested so she is unable to go to the bathroom alone (meaning she does her business in a Depends exclusively and gets changed by your sister), and/or she gets placed in managed care/Memory Care if and when her care becomes too much for your sister to manage alone at home. An elder with dementia needs specific 24/7 care in the bathroom and with all other aspects of their lives.
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What advice has your sister taken, if any, to improve her situation with your mother? It sounds like none.
If mom is incapable of cleaning herself, then maybe it's time to look at an evaluation of her overall health and abilities.
My 4 yo grandson can clean himself properly and wash hais hands after--basic living skills. If mom can't handle those--you need to see what ELSE she's neglecting.
Is she in adult diapers? Or just not able to reach all the areas? If it's the latter, I would suggest an 'add-on bidet' to the existing toilet. (I am begging DH for one for Christmas!) Having a fresh undercarriage is so nice and shouldn't require a full bath every time.
Also washing afterwards. I had a client who had fecal matter under her nails all the time. I habitually gave her 'manicures' but they really were to clean under her nails. WEAR GLOVES when you do this.
Come back with more info. That's all I've got right now.
Hope Santa delivers, if not Amazon does!