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Someone in another comment said: Dental work as dental is not really covered by either Medicare or Medicaid. That is not my experience. My in-laws are on Medicaid (in Montana) and there is $1500 available for each of them for dental, every six months. We just monitor that so they don't overspend and have to pay out of pocket. It may be different, depending on the state. Just wanted to clarify that, but there is no reason why dental couldn't be paid for in the "spend down," as well, of course!
IGLOO - try using nail polish on the sole of shoes under instep where there is little to no wear to mark her name & take a pix so they know what to look for
Buy a proper pillow & take a goodly amount of time to find it - DH & I did this before xmas & that has been great for us both [quite different to what we used prior to that] - this should be what she likes not you - this is so individualized with each person -
When we bought them there was a bed to test them on so don't just do a squeeze as this may not give optimal results - fyi pillows generally are not returnable so take your time ... maybe a 'lunch out day' if that would work - ours were over $50.00 each but worth every penny [DH & I 'gave' them as xmas gifts to each other ... most I ever spent on pillows! & we use them nearly 1/3 of every day!]
Buying stuff is not the way to spend down. Are you asking about medicaid? Or medicare? Medicare is fir seniors. Go to an Elder Law Attorney. They have staff specializing in medicare. If you are the main caregiver, the attny can write up a contract for you to be employed by your mother. Her moneys can be pulled once/month for your income. If she has investments, get a Cert Financial Planner to set up accounts or manage whatever you have appropriately. Not only will $ be pulled for your salary, $ a separate amount can be pulled for you to pay all expenses (down). First step is to go to an Elder Law Attorney, if mom has the $$ to spend, the right attorney will guide you in the right direction. Buying a hospital bed is a no, when/if shes ready for it, medicare via hospice will pay for it. Spending on real needs, dental work, is a good idea tho.
How about an alternating pressure mattress pad? We have 2 for mom to make sure she doesn't get pressure ulcers. A nice seat cushion, can be used in car, on chair, on wheelchair....
Question regarding this matter. As I prepare to move my Mom into my home, I have to buy medical supplies prior to moving in. At the moment, I can't ask her pay for her own items using her SS or Savings as she's still covering her Assisted Living fees until she moves out.
Could I pay for the items myself for now and have her reimburse me the costs granted I create an invoice for her stating exactly what medical supplies she's paying me back for? Will that still count in "spending down" and not be seen as a "gift" to a child?
Dental work as dental is not really covered by either Medicare or medicaid
Couple of crowns, implants @ canine to canine & updating the teeth in between, gum work..... All easily could spend down every penny. And imo you kinda want to do all before mom goes into a facility where she's on more on a schedule as having to leave for a good part of the day, missing lunch, therapy or activities adds to confusion.
That being said, I wish mom had bought several extra pairs of those ugly SAS shoes. She loved them and they always seems to go MIA as a pair or even solo at both NH she was at.
Is your mother going to be staying in her home (at least for a while), or in a care facility? Think about where she'll be and what she will enjoy there. Paying for long-term subscriptions to magazines she likes makes sense, or a year's subscription to her favorite newspaper if they offer that. These small items can add up once you are on the small personal care allowance. Also stock up on lotion or cosmetics she will use.
Consider that there is usually limited storage space in care centers. Don't go overboard on wardrobe additions unless someone can store them and change out selections periodically.
If Mom is the kind of lady who likes to look nice with jewelry, spend some time and money with her selecting inexpensive costume pieces. It is definitely not a good idea to have expensive items in a care center. (This does not apply if she is staying home, of course.)
Whether she intends to stay in her home or not, home maintenance and improvement items are OK. Will the roof need replacing soon? Do it now. Are there some repairs that will have to be made before selling the house? It is OK to use the spend down money on those uses.
Is there someplace Mom would really like to visit that would be feasible for her? She can spend her money on herself. Be cautious about having her spend money to bring a companion along.
Good answer, Angel! It's my experience, too. AS LONG AS IT'S SPENT ON HER, it's ok. Don't give it away, don't squirrel it away. They pre-paid for my in-laws' cremation (I think there is a limit on how much you can pre-pay for a funeral, so check with your case worker or counselor). They some nice clothing that they needed (coats, boots, etc.).
I have a friend that needed to spend monies too, and Medicaid offered many of the same suggestions that Angel wrote. You can ask your local Medicaid office too.
We are going through this with my mother. My recommendation is to use a family estate lawyer. They will make sure everything is done according to Medicaid rules and you don't get in trouble down the line. As I understand it, your parent can get kicked out of the program for something YOU are doing or did in the initial setup. Our biggest obstacle has been the numerous small insurance policies my mother had been paying on for years. Insurance companies do not want to work with you in either cashing out or cancelling the policies since these are considered to be part of the estate and cannot remain there. Good luck.
You can use the money to pay for a "pre paid" funeral plan. You could purchase a new bed with a nice mattress, or a hospital bed if you think it will be necessary in the future. You could buy a supply of incontinence pads. You could pay off any debt (like credit cards) that are outstanding. You could buy a motorized scooter. You could buy a nice comfortable recliner lift chair. As long as the money is spent on your mom and not gifted away or mysteriously spent as cash you should be ok. Just keep receipts.
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Just wanted to clarify that, but there is no reason why dental couldn't be paid for in the "spend down," as well, of course!
Buy a proper pillow & take a goodly amount of time to find it - DH & I did this before xmas & that has been great for us both [quite different to what we used prior to that] - this should be what she likes not you - this is so individualized with each person -
When we bought them there was a bed to test them on so don't just do a squeeze as this may not give optimal results - fyi pillows generally are not returnable so take your time ... maybe a 'lunch out day' if that would work - ours were over $50.00 each but worth every penny [DH & I 'gave' them as xmas gifts to each other ... most I ever spent on pillows! & we use them nearly 1/3 of every day!]
Buying a hospital bed is a no, when/if shes ready for it, medicare via hospice will pay for it. Spending on real needs, dental work, is a good idea tho.
Could I pay for the items myself for now and have her reimburse me the costs granted I create an invoice for her stating exactly what medical supplies she's paying me back for? Will that still count in "spending down" and not be seen as a "gift" to a child?
Couple of crowns, implants @ canine to canine & updating the teeth in between, gum work..... All easily could spend down every penny. And imo you kinda want to do all before mom goes into a facility where she's on more on a schedule as having to leave for a good part of the day, missing lunch, therapy or activities adds to confusion.
That being said, I wish mom had bought several extra pairs of those ugly SAS shoes. She loved them and they always seems to go MIA as a pair or even solo at both NH she was at.
Consider that there is usually limited storage space in care centers. Don't go overboard on wardrobe additions unless someone can store them and change out selections periodically.
If Mom is the kind of lady who likes to look nice with jewelry, spend some time and money with her selecting inexpensive costume pieces. It is definitely not a good idea to have expensive items in a care center. (This does not apply if she is staying home, of course.)
Whether she intends to stay in her home or not, home maintenance and improvement items are OK. Will the roof need replacing soon? Do it now. Are there some repairs that will have to be made before selling the house? It is OK to use the spend down money on those uses.
Is there someplace Mom would really like to visit that would be feasible for her? She can spend her money on herself. Be cautious about having her spend money to bring a companion along.
They pre-paid for my in-laws' cremation (I think there is a limit on how much you can pre-pay for a funeral, so check with your case worker or counselor). They some nice clothing that they needed (coats, boots, etc.).
I have a friend that needed to spend monies too, and Medicaid offered many of the same suggestions that Angel wrote.
You can ask your local Medicaid office too.
Angel