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You would be well served by talking with an elder law attorney in your state who is able to help you determine whether your mom was eligibility for Medicare (was she discharged from a hospital to the nursing facility?), and/or prepare the application and supporting information needed to qualify her for Medicaid coverage.
Completing the Medicaid application properly can save time and expense for you, and the nursing home business office. If your Mom was eligible for Medicaid, the nursing home can be reimbursed by Medicaid. Otherwise, assets remaining in your Mom's estate must be used to pay for the care. The elder law attorney can help you properly calculate and report any estate administration expenses that have priority in settling your Mom's estate.
Federal Medicare and Medicaid law says that family members cannot be required to sign as a “Responsible Party” for payment of nursing home care costs. 42 USC §1396r(c)(5)(A)(ii). Some facilities have asked family members to “volunteer” to act as a responsible party. The federal law says: “a nursing facility must (ii) not require a third party guarantee of payment to the facility as a condition of admission (or expedited admission) to, or continued stay in, the facility.”
There are also state laws and regulations the prohibit a facility from requiring a resident to provide a third party guarantee of payment to the facility. Example from my state, Massachusetts: http://www.mass.gov/ago/docs/regulations/940-cmr-4-00.pdf
Medicare will most likely cover it, but if not, if you didn't' sign anything making you responsible for your mom's bills, you shouldn't be responsible. If you did sign something, you might be held responsible for all or part of the bill and might want to consult an attorney.
You would only be responsible if you willingly agreed to cover those charges for her. As long as you didn't sign anything, you should be fine.
* The way some paperwork is written, you could unknowingly sign something you don't understand, so make sure you understand whatever you're signing before ever signing it. This is why you should always read very carefully before ever signing any paper, because Once you sign, you agree to whatever the terms are
Listen to the people who suggested calling an attorney. For the four months my husband was in a nursing home before he died, I was not notified that his Medicaid pending benefits had been approved. I knew only that the nursing home was receiving his Social Security check by direct deposit, and that I could no longer care for him. I lived under great tension. I was afraid to ask the nursing home. Don't accept the nursing home's verbal statements. Invest in consulting an attorney who specializes in elder affairs.
Children are not responsible for parents debts unless you have signed something. If u are talking Medicaid, it may be retro from when she applied. Don't let them tell u otherwise.
John L. Roberts -- Thank you for stating "The federal law says: “a nursing facility must (ii) not require a third party guarantee of payment to the facility as a condition of admission (or expedited admission) to, or continued stay in, the facility.” What would you have advised me to do when the administer of a nursing home asked me to sign a guarantee of payment to the nursing home to which he was admitted? I signed against my will, and Medicaid kicked in, but I worried until it did. I'm 84, and seek your advice so I can tell my son about it in case he ever has to admit me to a nursing home.
Instead of worrying about something that has not happened yet, just wait for approval. If and when she dies, the nursing home will expect to be paid by either Medicare/Medicaid or you depending on when.
Unless you signed something, you would only be responsible if you lived in a State that had a Filial Responsibility Law and your mom's estate did not have the money to pay the bill and medicare refused to pay and the NH felt you did have enough to pay it and therefor decided to sue. Then it would be up to the courts.
What are y'all thinking? If I had to sign away my left arm to get a parent care, I'd do it. I think the quwstuon is, will medicaicare continue the process of seeking funds even once the recipient has died. I think several people implied yes.
By proceeding, I agree that I understand the following disclosures:
I. How We Work in Washington.
Based on your preferences, we provide you with information about one or more of our contracted senior living providers ("Participating Communities") and provide your Senior Living Care Information to Participating Communities. The Participating Communities may contact you directly regarding their services.
APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
II. How We Are Paid.
We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour.
APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
IV. No Obligation or Commitment.
You have no obligation to use or to continue to use our services. Because you pay no fee to us, you will never need to ask for a refund.
V. Complaints.
Please contact our Family Feedback Line at (866) 584-7340 or ConsumerFeedback@aplaceformom.com to report any complaint. Consumers have many avenues to address a dispute with any referral service company, including the right to file a complaint with the Attorney General's office at: Consumer Protection Division, 800 5th Avenue, Ste. 2000, Seattle, 98104 or 800-551-4636.
VI. No Waiver of Your Rights.
APFM does not (and may not) require or even ask consumers seeking senior housing or care services in Washington State to sign waivers of liability for losses of personal property or injury or to sign waivers of any rights established under law.
I agree that:
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I authorize A Place For Mom ("APFM") to collect certain personal and contact detail information, as well as relevant health care information about me or from me about the senior family member or relative I am assisting ("Senior Living Care Information").
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APFM may provide information to me electronically. My electronic signature on agreements and documents has the same effect as if I signed them in ink.
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APFM may send all communications to me electronically via e-mail or by access to an APFM web site.
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If I want a paper copy, I can print a copy of the Disclosures or download the Disclosures for my records.
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This E-Sign Acknowledgement and Authorization applies to these Disclosures and all future Disclosures related to APFM's services, unless I revoke my authorization. You may revoke this authorization in writing at any time (except where we have already disclosed information before receiving your revocation.) This authorization will expire after one year.
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You consent to APFM's reaching out to you using a phone system than can auto-dial numbers (we miss rotary phones, too!), but this consent is not required to use our service.
Completing the Medicaid application properly can save time and expense for you, and the nursing home business office. If your Mom was eligible for Medicaid, the nursing home can be reimbursed by Medicaid. Otherwise, assets remaining in your Mom's estate must be used to pay for the care. The elder law attorney can help you properly calculate and report any estate administration expenses that have priority in settling your Mom's estate.
Federal Medicare and Medicaid law says that family members cannot be required to sign as a “Responsible Party” for payment of nursing home care costs. 42 USC §1396r(c)(5)(A)(ii). Some facilities have asked family members to “volunteer” to act as a responsible party. The federal law says: “a nursing facility must (ii) not require a third party guarantee of payment to the facility as a condition of admission (or expedited admission) to, or continued stay in, the facility.”
To read the nursing home law:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/1396r
Scroll down to §1396r(c)(5)(A)(ii)
There are also state laws and regulations the prohibit a facility from requiring a resident to provide a third party guarantee of payment to the facility. Example from my state, Massachusetts:
http://www.mass.gov/ago/docs/regulations/940-cmr-4-00.pdf
* The way some paperwork is written, you could unknowingly sign something you don't understand, so make sure you understand whatever you're signing before ever signing it. This is why you should always read very carefully before ever signing any paper, because Once you sign, you agree to whatever the terms are
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