This is a call for advice. My mom has had Parkinson's and dementia for 5 years now and has slowly and steadily been declining. Our current caregivers are a mixed bag, and one in particular is giving her subpar care (refusing to cut her nails, sits her in front of TV all day, doesn't want my mom's sister over because she's bossy and points out her mistakes, can't take any critique or feedback, once had her on a wet bed pad for hours, also not skilled enough to hold her up when she has fainting spells, etc.). In her care, my mom is declining noticeably more quickly. We have other caregivers who are better and are now available to take over the schedule but my dad refuses. Context: he has a girlfriend who I believe is encouraging him to step back from my mother's care. He is currently on a 4-month long summer "respite" from my mom, so no one is there with her (I am on study abroad for the semester, a hard choice but I do feel as a person in their mid-20s it's my dad's responsibility more than mine to be there) AND he does not like the idea of this new schedule that would have only the better caregivers. The cost is the same. So the only possible conclusions I have are A) he's unwilling to admit that this caregiver is subpar because it would reflect badly on him or B) he and his gf are conspiring against my mom whether so intentionally or not, to have my mom decline faster and to the point she gets put in a home so he and his gf don't have to deal with her care anymore.
My questions are twofold: what do you think? Is it possible this nefarious plot is actually happening? And, what are the standards to define elder neglect? If I can prove that my dad is not doing what he ought to is there any way I can legally take over the responsibility of my mom's care (without my dad's consent)?
How can your Dad speed up Parkinson’s with neglecting Mom?
As caregiver to husband with PD i know few things, and of course not even the best specialists are sure of disease trajectory.
PD after five years often escalates for different reasons, could be meds, obviously neurologist should determine that.
PD is characterized by slow progression generally, but with dementia could progress rapidly, again, drs opinion needed.
It is true for different reasons, many people with PD do better at home, again, as my husband is highly functional and exceptionally cognitive and often people in facilities are put together, assumption being made they all have PD and dementIa, which is 40% of PD.
Quality of life is important, again, it does not diminish or speed up progression.
You, being good daughter have concerns, but, I suspect you are getting part of the story from your aunt, whose opinion is rather subjective.
Objectivity and facts are necessary with this disease. And simple fact remains nobody got better with Parkinson.
Many conditions do not have a linear path of decline. There can be stagnant and slower periods, and then rapid decline. With you being away from home, you may not have your finger on the pulse of her timeline. It will be interesting to hear your thoughts once you return home.
To answer your questions:
I do not believe for a moment that your father has a scheme for your mother's decline, or he would not have in-home services for her. It sounds like after 5 years of this, he is no longer on top of his game, even if legally responsible for her care. You say he doesn't want to change caregiver schedules, but there could be many reasons for that aside from financial. How can you help him while abroad? Is he ready to hand over the reins to you once you return?
It sounds like your aunt is on top of your mom's care, and perhaps willing to step in more until you return and can assess the entire situation in person.
Research the use of "your" vs "you're."
First, your mom would want you to enjoy your time abroad, no doubt. I say this as a mom with a child your age. She would be upset if she thought your time was being ruined by her health issues.
Second, I'd approach Dad via email or text and tell him you're both on the same team, you understand how tough it is to see his wife decline and that he needs a break (kiss ass a little, in other words). Tell him you know SHE would want the best care for HIM, and given the specific things you've seen, you know another caregiver would be best, and phew, thank goodness we have the means to cover it.
Talk to the agency and express your concerns. And as others have said, ask some friends and neighbors to stop by.
Hang in there, sweetheart.
The mother has caregivers and an aunt comes by regularly to complain and micromanage them.
From where he is in house, if you were to go outside and you have a fall, could he see you or get to you and have the cognitive ability to contact the fire department or EMS?
I had a cousin with 2ndary polio symptoms. His parents had their home renovated to be ADA even with a mirror kitchen w/ low cabinet / refrig & had a Special Needs Trust for him. Went to college, married, kids, worked, traveled. SNT enabled him to get retrofitted cars so drove & have an aide accompany him on travels. Led a very fulfilling & take no prisoners life. When his parents aged, his older brother and myself became Trustees. Not that it was needed as he was competent, his was all physical limitations. Brother moved into home when he did early retirement and eventually the parents both went into a NH. Home next door had a fire and jumped onto cousins roofline; they made it out with Brother carrying him in arms but brother herniated a disc, so the caregiver needed a caregiver! It happened again when brother busted a knee while working in yard; this time was abt 3 hrs till neighbor behind heard him calling out. Again caregiver needed a caregiver. We all met with his daughter to discuss; he was very much competent and cognitive but in fear of being “stranded”. Live-in 5 days on/off hired caregivers & cameras added. Eventually his post polio caused severe muscle waste; he could not at all help when a transfer was needed, swallowing issues, severe SOB. He went into a facility, not a NH or MC, but an LTAC for his own safety & security. LTAC was pretty amazing as was a long term rehab and acute care. But muscles just gave out. His next step was to go onto an EKMO and his daughter -a RN anesthetist - knew that was delaying the eventuality. He just stopped breathing. That he remained competent for so much of his lifetime made beyond huge difference in his being able to stay in the home. If your hubs has dementia there are cognitive issues, he may not recognize a danger.
Your friends that are urging alternatives are worried for you. Please have a plan developing as to the next phase of his life and care needs. None of this is inexpensive. Costs can be staggering. You do not want to impoverish yourself for his care. You could live another decade or more. You don’t want to be the poor community spouse or widow if you can help it. If you haven’t met with an estate atty who understands disability, please do so. Like how under age 25 based disabilities might can get longer covered insurance w/out needing “progress”. How ABLE Act account and $ shifted into one might be something for y’all to do if it’s looking like Medicaid will be applied for. For my cousin, his SNT was fine so no need to do ABLE. But if it hadn’t been there, he would have done an AbLE. SNT defunded abt a yr b4 his death; was a planned defunding. 4 of us & an atty involved in all this. As a spouse you’re going to be overwhelmed. Please allow others to help you & your hubs out. Listen to suggestions even if contrary to what you think is best. Good luck.
You make excellent points. You are right about there being no excuse for her to be left laying on a urine-soaked bedpad for four hours. If that's true. She is the only client and the care is in-home.She should not have been left like that for five minutes. That's unacceptable.
I did in-home care for a very long time. I've been around all kinds of families and have seen every response a person can have towards their LO's caregiver. One of the most common responses from family members is the expectation of more than is possible for anyone deliver on. Many times families expect the caregiver to perform miracles for their LO and become angry and very critical when they can't.
I've had this happen many times when families (by no fault of their own) don't understand how sick or how limited their LO really is. So there's a revolving door of caregiver after caregiver being hired and fired. Meanwhile the family grows ever more frustrated because they're not getting the results they want.
If a family member thinks there's client neglect, other than installing 24 hour cameras which I would not tolerate, have an experienced aide come in because they know what to look for. I certainly do.
Always look at a client's skin. Especially their backsides and private parts. When someone's hygiene is being kept up on properly, their skin reflects it.
Look in the client's mouth. If their oral hygiene is being kept up on, their mouth will show it too.
Is their hair dirty? Even when a client is bedbound their hair can be cleaned.
Then look around the house and follow your nose.If someone has 24 hour care, there should never be things like dirty laundry or dishes. If the place stinks then the housekeeping is being ignored. Chances are when the housekeeping is being neglected, so is the client.
Then there's the sure way to know if they're being properly cared for.
Show up early in the morning sometime. 6am or so. If the client and their bedding is soaked, that means no one is toileting or changing them in the overnight.
And if a person isn't being changed in the overnight, it's very unlikely that they're getting changed or toileted several times during the daytime hours either.
He got himself into a spite marriage after our divorce but was only married a few months. I did not remarry. We have more than ten years on the books with each other.
Sounds like you will be able to visit soon as the semester is nearly complete. What an awesome opportunity to spend the semester abroad!
Is mom's husband your biological father?I
Is aunt a drama queen?
Have you tried talking to dad with compassion and.understanding?
Have you looked into joining a virtual support group?
If you have a close neighbor or friend, call or write to them and ask if they could find the time to make frequent "checkups" on the situation at home. S/he, as a third party, could report any harm or neglect to the authorities or your pastor, if you have one. She/he could be your eyes and ears while you are away. Once there is another witness or someone who even suspects there is trouble, action will be taken to ensure your mom's safety and best health. I would certainly make it a point to discharge that caregiver who really isn't caring at all. You might even have to take authority into your own hands concerning your Dad's attitude about caregivers. He owes the best care for your Mom since she gave her best to him when she could!
Legally dad is required to contribute to his spouses care & security as feasible as they are married and under whatever community propery laws are for their state. In some states he can declare he will not support her aka spousal refusal. The mom has LTC insurance which is paying for her in home care at the present. Perhaps dad is also augmenting and doing private pay for additional nonLTC policy paid caregivers. We do not know. OP didn't even write there was LTC insurance till after initial posting.
What we do know is that the mom has Parkinson and has several caregivers which enable the mom to continue to live at home. And has been doing this for years. That is beyond fortunate.
The terms of the LTC policy should the mom need a higher level of care become beyond very important cause if the policy is only for inhome, then should she move into a facility as her level of care needs it, policy stops paying. If it does transfer to in a facility payment & by itself does not cover all facility costs, the dad does not necessarily need to pay the difference. The community spouse, the dad, is NOT required to himself become impoverished to pay for his wife’s in a facility care. He can do a spend down and then file for LTC Medicaid for his wife & Medicaid will segregates their income & assets. Once he gets to under his state’s community spouse exempt asset max (tends to be 128K) is ok on value on other exempt assets (home & car) and the NH spouse is at 2K in nonexempt assets, she can be eligible for LTC Medicaid and only her own income has to be the copay to the NH. Dad keeps his income; he’s a community spouse he needs his own $ to enable himself to live in the community. The community spouse is not themselves required to impoverished themselves to pay for their spouses care. He does not have to sell the home to have $ to private pay for the wife’s care. If the mom would be best served by being in a NH, he can have that happen. OP needs to realize that contacting APS could produce a report that the mom needs care in a facility…..
Parkinson’s is a 10-20 year disease. Average time for dementia onset for those with Parkinson’s is 10 years. If the mom has had dementia now for 5 years, she’s in the final quadrant of her struggle with Parkinson’s. Fighting these last few months or years of her moms life with Dad will only alienated her from his future. The OP should she continue in all this has no “win” in this drama imo.
Try to mend your relationship with your father. He may be doing the best he can and is simply stressed from this situation. Give him some understanding in having another relationship , though it is hurtful to you and would be to your mother if she knew. Try not to become adversarial and work together for your moms benefit . Perhaps you can find someone to mediate in this ..a trusted family friend, a clergy person, someone from aging care , a relative . Good luck to you .
I hope that you and your mother manage to cope as well as possible, and send you my best wishes – not much more anyone else can do!
This is also known as not getting told what you want to hear.
The people responding to the OP are for the most part pretty up front and honest. They also know their way around the ins and outs of caregiving.
I'm not concerned about what my social security will look like with remarriage to my second husband. I am the one who benefits financially from that union because I never earned anywhere near what he does. I always worked and was able to support myself, but both of my husbands earned far more than I ever did, even though private caregiving work pays well.
I was married to my first husband for over ten years and he never remarried. My second remarried for five minutes more to spite me than anything else. I'll collect one of their social securities because either will be higher than mine.
When I met my second husband he was a widower with a two year old. I legally adopted that baby and he's my son. He's grown now and in college. Neither of us had any other kids. My ex is business and finance guy. He set up my mother's property. The one good thing she did was let him take care of this. I wish my father had listened to him. It's all good.
If it is only the one caregiver, help your dad to see that this person needs to be "helped" to find a situation that fits his/her skills and abilities (not caring for your mom). If she is part of an agency, contact them about your concerns.
Your mom's "fainting spells" need to be evaluated and treated by a doctor. This is not normal. When you get back from your studies abroad, move closer to home to become more involved in your mom's care. Then, you can see more closely what she needs and be a good advocate for your mom and her needs with your father.
If I were you, I would:
A-first: start recording everything in a binder/notebook - date, time, who, what and when - of all situations that are a red flag. This information / in a chronological readable format will or could be very valuable later on, esp if any legal matters are involved;
B-What is your mom's sister willing to do? SHE IS THERE.
She needs to be held accountable. It is HER sister.
If she is 'standing around watching this go on,' she needs to know that she is morally and ethically responsible to her sister (and what are the circumstances or relationship between them?) - Her sister might be held legally responsible in some to allow this to go on.
1) CONTACT SOCIAL SERVICES ASAP / elder care and discuss the situation.
2) find out if your dad has POA (Power of Attorney) for your mom and what, if any, other legal authority he might have. At the least, they will hopefully send someone out there - when the caregiver (subpar) is on duty. The more written and documented about the level of care, the better for your mom, and for you to make changes.
3) Contact a non-profit organization that assists family on low income (yours ? / your mom's).
4) No one has a crystal ball regarding your dad's motivations. He has a girlfriend, which isn't so unusual after five years w his wife being disabled although some may think it is 'wrong.' That isn't the point. He may be influenced by the gf or not. We don't know.
5) Are there other family members who can talk to him? If so, consider having a 'family' discussion.
6) Contact your mom's medical provider and tell them what the issues are so they can document and perhaps advise.
7) Yes, it would seem that your dad is the responsible party for your mother. That he isn't doing what he should be doing is (or would) alarming (to me).
8) Can you speak to your dad now? Zoom ? What does he say when you talk to him about the level of care he's providing (via caregivers - and personally) ?
9) After he shares with you his feelings and 'reasons' for his behavior, ask him what he wants to do as something needs to change. You could tell him his behavior could be considered abuse - and it well might (check with authorities).
10) It might be best to have your mom placed in a care facility. It is not easy to care for a person with these disabilities. Most caregivers are trained. They are generally now well educated, have limited language (English) skills, and some may do the absolute minimum, or try to get away with whatever they can (as this person is apparently doing). This should not be allowed to continue on.
11) You dad may be saying "I don't want your mother living here with me any longer. Although he isn't coming out and saying that.
If you are abroad, how do you know the specifics of this particular careprovider 'watching tv' and not attending as she should be to your mom? Is she hired through an agency? Can you call them to discuss?
Gena
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You should discuss it with neurologist, it does happen, what I learn about this horrible disease is beyond comprehension and my husband has no dementia, but other symptoms appear daily/ weekly.
Neglectful caregivers is different matter, but, not cutting nails is not neglect, if caregiver is not strong enough hire somebody else. I will always give any caregiver benefit of doubt, as it is the hardest job.
Your Mom‘s sister could be too critical, not knowing all the facts.
Your father, maybe marriage is over and some people cannot feel, deal, or have any emotions, sympathy etc.
"move on with our lives" I did not say that, I said Dad could. And I am sorry I said that now I reread my post.
If Mom is covered by LTC insurance, policies differ and some don't cover that much. Usually with LTC insurance, as Burnt said, you must use an agency. This insures that payroll taxes are taken out of the aide's paycheck.* There may be only certain agencies the insurance will allow. I just read that depending on how much you pay in premiums depends on how much you receive daily for care. Could be $100, could be $200. $100 does not even cover a shift of one aide care with an agency. $200 may cover a shift of one aide. If there is more than one shift, that is coming out of Dads pocket.
*When an aide is hired privately, the IRS requires the employer to deduct payroll taxes and match the Social Security. A W2 has to be provided at the end of the year.
If the OP is off for schooling in Europe and dad can go off with his mistress for months at a time then they've probably got money.
In such case you don't have to use agency-hired help. People like this can usually afford people like me.
I had lots of clients when I was agency employed who also paid me a little something on the side in cash every week because I took good care of their LO and knew the agency pay was crap.
Money is always the best of incentives. Offer these agency aides a little something in cash each week and they will be going the extra mile every day for the client.
As for your aunt coming over to boss and critique the caregiver. It's not for us workers to decide who can visit a client and who can't.
I've encountered many bossy, visiting knit-pickers in my time like your aunt. They learned fast that I won't be micromanaged by people who have no idea what caregiving work is about. I don't think so.
Your mother has dementia and Parkinson's. She also has fainting spells. TV is a big part of the day for clients like that regardless of who's taking care of them. Or if that care is in-home or in a facility. People see ads on tv for care agencies where there's a delightful old person laughing and doing a puzzle with their worker. It's NEVER like that. I've never done a puzzle with a client nor has one wanted to, in almost 25 years as a caregiver. I had a client with Parkinson's who had fainting spells too. There's not really a lot of activities the caregiver can do with them. I considered it a good day if she fed herself. We're not entertainers. Hire entertainent if that's what you're looking for. If your aide is not well-trained request a different one, but please do not make her a scapegoat for why your seriously ill mother with dementia is declining. If the agency sent a poorly-trained, unprepared aide with no agency support available, that's on them not her. It is her supervisor's job to make sure she can handle the care and to provide outside support if needed.
Your mom would probably be better off in a care facility. As for the other thing.
Does she know that your father has a mistress and that he's off seeing her? How French. Anyway, it being summer and all, school's out. There's no reason why you can't come home and oversee your mother's care. As for dad, well a person can have multiple spouses throughout their lifetime. You only get one mother though. Don't care for guilt-trips? Who can blame you? I don't care for them either. I'm sure your father doesn't care for the one you and others are very likely trying to lay on him. He's taking a break. Nothing wrong with that. He gets points for not putting her in a nursing home.
No matter how good anyone's caregivers are, there ALWAYS needs to be a trustworthy person that is family or as good as, regularly checking in on the situation. If not daily, then at least a few times a week. Same as when it's a residential care facility. You don't just leave it to caregivers and hope for the best which is exactly what this situation sounds like. Maybe your aunt can make herself useful in this way instead of as a bossy nuisance to the people your mother literally depends on.
You don't help with your mom's care because you feel it's your father's responsibilty. Yet you want to take full responsibilty for it. Don't put the cart in front of the horse here. Have a talk with your father. A respectful talk with your mom's care needs and best interests at the center of it. No judgments and no guilt-trips. I'm sure the two of you will be able to make a better plan for her. Good luck.
I agree having a team of great caregivers would be better than some great + one subpar.. alas, perfect or best is not always possible.
Hearing about faints, nails, lost weight has got you in a worrying whirl but there is probably a lot of good too. As you mentioned, Mom is in her home, with caregivers she knows, her sister visits.
Scale down the worry.
Look at what you CAN do. Support your Aunt by phone & call your Mom. Support Dad too. If you take the stance of telling or implying Dad is not doing a good job, he may ignore or even distance himself from you.
No-one likes a back-seat driver or a long-distance supervisor! (Even though your suggestions come from concern & caring)
Letting go is hard. I don't mean letting go of Mom, or loving her. I mean letting go of wanting to take control.
When Dad returns, consider asking him what he wants to do, going forward.
I'm sure in the wider picture you both want to have Mom cared for - but that may look different for both of you. You can aim to stay on the same side, the same team. That will help Mom the most.
PS No staff should be holding patients up with faints or falls. Lowering to chair (if possible) or the floor is safer all round.
PPS Don't make the mistake of writing of assisted living/nursing homes for the very frail. A beloved home's familiar walls don't provide for all our needs across our whole life span. Elders need socialisation too. When mobility & accessing the community is diminished, a care home can provide more company than aging in place & getting lonely or bored with one caregiver. Depends on temperament of course, but some of my fam moved themselves into assisted care settings & enjoyed the company it brought.
Something to think on if this comes up.
Many adult children find the idea of a surviving parent having a new relationship, a new love life, very confronting, whether before or after the death. It jeopardises inheritance, and seems disrespectful to the memory of the parent who is no longer the focus of attention.
Perhaps you need to focus on what your mother needs, and forget about the ulterior motives that you suggest. Can you get someone else in to assess the situation and report to you both, without the head of steam that comes with this patch of turf? Find better alternatives that your father can organise easily?
So long as he has a measure of discretion and does not as they say, rub his wife's nose in it.
The fact that he hasn't put her in a nursing home is a pretty good indicator that he cares about his wife and is trying to do the best he can by her.
Parents getting involved in other relationships does not have to jeopardize any potential inheritance. An aging but lonely parent who cares about their family doesn't allow that to happen.
AND your dad -- who I presume is still married to your mother -- has a GIRLFRIEND?
How do you propose to take over her care when you're thousands of miles away?
None of this makes sense.
Why should this be shocking to anyone? I've had two husbands and will likely remarry my second one soon enough. We're older now and I told him that I would not have no problem with him having something on the side if I was invalid, or had dementia, or was in a care facility. He agreed that he wouldn't mind if I did under such circumstances.
Have discretion about it. If you abandon your ailing husband or wife in favor of your mistress of lover, that's wrong.
At any rate, the person that takes charge, must also take (financial) responsibility.
Only when you can do that you have a vote.
You can have a sh*t fit about it but if daddy is paying for your school I don't think it's a good idea for you.
This was heartbreaking to read. Oh the horror of thinking of my mom sitting in urine for hours. I'm sorry, it has to be killing you.
I get p'd off about how my man's disease has wrecked my life, humongously big time, but almost each time I look at my husband's once so handsome gaunt face I imagine; the carpenter, the ship captain, the diligent hard working blue collar worker that was so liked by everyone, the great son and husband, screaming from inside this hollow disabled shriveling shell, "I am not this".
It is difficult fighting the impulse for self survival, to be unselfish, to feel deserving of a less taxing life, and to want to cut and run. It's nearly impossible but these trapped innocent helpless people need and must have a champion.
You're right to go ahead with your life. It is your dad's responsibility.
Do you think Adult Protective Services could do a better job? Besides, you can't do much from long distance.
Visit you mom when you can. Do what you can for your mom when you are with her. Take a video of the conditions your mom is living in. Let the caregiver see you do that. Tell her it's a project for college, a second major, and perhaps for a vlog your about to launch. Tell she's got nothing to worry about, raise an eyebrow and smile.
Tell your aunt to go into her sister's house like King Kong with a Mona Lisa smile, keeping her mouth shut. And if she herself is not going to roll up her sleeves, tell her to bring along one of those better aids to show the bum how it's done. And then leave at the end of 3 or 4 hours, letting the crumby aid wonder what the heck happened. Tell your aunt you promise to do the same for her one day..
The aunt should knit-pick and critique less and advocate more. She could make herself useful by keeping a close eye on the situation and by going to her sister's house several times a week to keep everyone on their toes.
I have to ask, do you really think your father is capable of deliberately hastening her decline and even death? That’s a pretty serious suspicion to have.