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She lives with me in house that I own. I provide all her care, no outside help and I work full time at a hospital. She is 92yo. Between pension & SS she gets about $2400/month. She pays for her cellphone and internet.
I think if you are her POA and have a care contract drawn by an attorney that is the safest and best way to protect her and to protect yourself. If you do "shared living costs" rather than rental, then what you are charging is miniscule compared to what costs at ALF or nursing home would be. The thing you need to prevent is having it look like gifting if you have need within the next five years (2 1/2 in california) to have her apply for medicaid help. You need a paper trail to prove this is a cost of living sharing, and files to keep records.
Your amount is reasonable, but this isn't something you can afford to do wrong, so see an attorney. I understand this is another grand out of pocket, but it's wise to do.
Thank you for your responses. What you all say makes sense. She's not consistent with the $1500/month and I only recently started to ask her for the $1500/month. A co-worker suggested that I treat it as a gift (tax-free gift of $18000 per year). Last year she "paid" about $14000 total. I think I will get the rent agreement written just in case she needs a SNF. Thank you so much.
Is this 1500 a month to pay for her bills for things she needs or uses, or is it for your time? (ie: Call it rent, food, gas etc)
If it is just for her living expenses, you dont need a contract for that though I would document the things it is paying for.
$1500 a month would not be unreasonable if it were you just charging rent and food.
If it were for your time in caring for her, a contract would be needed, but $1500 a month is not unreasonable for just say room and board and her other needs.
Sorry we do use the same internet. She pays for it. The $1500 is mainly being saved for new sliding for the house. I pay for all the other (utilities, insurances, property taxes, etc). She does pay for groceries about 50% of the time. I do not declare her on my taxes. I guess we are pooling our money as a household.
No. No contract. I actually never heard of a caregivers contract. She and I took care of her mother together in my house (Grandmother died in home without going to SNF). That is my goal with my mother; for her to die at home. But I'm worried that mother will end up in SNF. Women in my family live VERY long time (late 90s and a few into 100s).
By proceeding, I agree that I understand the following disclosures:
I. How We Work in Washington.
Based on your preferences, we provide you with information about one or more of our contracted senior living providers ("Participating Communities") and provide your Senior Living Care Information to Participating Communities. The Participating Communities may contact you directly regarding their services.
APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
II. How We Are Paid.
We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour.
APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
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You have no obligation to use or to continue to use our services. Because you pay no fee to us, you will never need to ask for a refund.
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Please contact our Family Feedback Line at (866) 584-7340 or ConsumerFeedback@aplaceformom.com to report any complaint. Consumers have many avenues to address a dispute with any referral service company, including the right to file a complaint with the Attorney General's office at: Consumer Protection Division, 800 5th Avenue, Ste. 2000, Seattle, 98104 or 800-551-4636.
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Your amount is reasonable, but this isn't something you can afford to do wrong, so see an attorney. I understand this is another grand out of pocket, but it's wise to do.
If it is just for her living expenses, you dont need a contract for that though I would document the things it is paying for.
$1500 a month would not be unreasonable if it were you just charging rent and food.
If it were for your time in caring for her, a contract would be needed, but $1500 a month is not unreasonable for just say room and board and her other needs.
Small thing, but cant you both use same internet?