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You don’t have enough information to guess what would be best for them to do.

Remember that if their finances are private and none of your business (they don’t want disclose their income or spending information), their finances are private and none of your business (you can’t get involved with your time or money).

It is possible that their current housing expenses are competitive with whatever they would consider an acceptable replacement (taxes + insurance + maintenance + utilities vs. 2 bedroom downtown apartment). If they are competent, they get to decide where to move.

Lots of credit card debt may not make much difference either. They can stop paying. SS income is resistant to garnishment from most creditors. A bad credit score just makes it harder to borrow more.

When they ask for help, and it doesn’t sound like that has happened yet, then you can see how much they want you involved in their business. Until then, it’s fine to start a file of ideas on how to spend less, qualify for various programs, and get out of debt; file it and put it back out of your mind. I wouldn’t want to live on SS alone, but plenty of people do.

The only thing you would really need to act on without an invitation is if you believe they are mishandling money because cognitive decline is interfering with their IADLs.

https://www.agingcare.com/articles/instrumental-activities-of-daily-living-defined-427370.htm
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sp19690 Sep 2022
It became their business when dad asked for money.
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It’s me again Jayme, there are a lot of good reasons here why you should keep your distance. I hope you you see the one reason why you should be involved THEY ARE YOUR PARENTS. If you do your best to help them, even if it’s messy you will feel good about yourself for the rest of your life and your two sons who are watching will be so proud of their mom. If it’s not to much trouble I would love to know the outcome.maybe a post???
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MargaretMcKen Sep 2022
There are different ways to ‘help’. Providing money is not the only one, and is probably a very bad idea. Large sums of money wanted by unrealistic parents, is likely to ruin OP financially and also ruin the relationship with parents. Resentment on both sides. Moral support is better. The last thing OP needs is to become yet another creditor, watching more money disappear.
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I think I would ask to sit down with them to see what these bills per month really are. Then start trimming the fat. It's very possible they are giving money to fake charities or other mail requests. With bills they actually owe, you can contact a credit counseling company to get that started. They can negotiate balances and then collect a certain amount from parents each month to pay towards bills. As one gets paid off, the money is rerouted to the unpaid bills. They will have to give up credit cards, too.

Once that is in place, you can put all their necessary bills online to manage payment from there. When you sit down with them, tell them they must agree to this plan to keep a roof over their head and utilities on.

One thing to remember if you leave them to their own devices to figure out the bills: They may continue to pick and choose what to pay each month and they may not choose the important bills. They need oversight
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I'm sorry if I repeat any answers others have posted. I could only glance at them, but here's my scoop after caring for my elderly in-laws with dementia for several years: Sadly, if this is their elderly financial condition, it is not your problem, even if they are trying to make it your problem. It is hard to have compassion (it hurts to see them struggling) but it sounds like they have enabled your sister and have hurt themselves in the process. They may not listen to you or want your advice (another hard thing) but if they DO allow you to sit down with them and see the truth of their financials, you need to be realistic with them. They can't be "helping" your sister anymore. They may need to move (at their ages, their lifestyle should be simple), not only to a smaller place but a much cheaper place. Just from what you say about your dad thinking he may get a job at age 82 makes me think he does have some sort of dementia. This article enlightened me to anosognosia (Understanding Anosognosia in Dementia Patients - AgingCare.com). Sounds like it might be your dad's situation. All this saying: They will have to be willing to accept help - but NOT money - from you. If they do not accept this advice and help, then they are going to have to lie in the proverbial beds they have made for themselves. It is agonizing, I know, but you can't sacrifice your own family's welfare, dreams, and desires for their unrealistic ones. I will be praying for you! This is so hard.
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Jayme1213: Do NOT enable your parents financially.
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You need a good attorney and to take charge to protect your parents. Your instincts are right.
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MargaretMcKen Sep 2022
What instincts do you mean? Whose instincts - I can't find it in the thread. OP isn't the one who needs the lawyer - it's the parents, and they don't sound willing to hire one. They rejected OP's offer of a financial planner. A lawyer can't 'protect' from massive and increasing debt. And who pays the lawyer?
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I suspect that Jayme has stopped following the thread - more pressing things to think about. Early on I sent a private message with what I hope was helpful comment based on personal experience of ‘too much to risk’ versus ‘not enough to help’. She ‘thumbs up’ me and there’s been nothing since that.
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Unless you have limitless amounts of money that you are willing to part with, you cannot and should not fix this for your parents and sister. I also do not think your dad is going to get hired as a consultant at the age of 82. You don't live near them and don't see them on a regular basis. There could be some cognitive decline going on. Do not send money. Offer advice on how they can improve their situation. If they don't take it, that is not your problem. I know that advice doesn't ease the emotional aspects of your situation. Suggest that your parents move in with your sister into the highrise apartment in Chicago. They could pull their money/resources together to keep a roof over their heads. Do not send money.
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$9000/month on top of their social security means they need to reduce thier expenses first and foremost. Hopefully none of that money is still going to your sister.
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