I had to do this in order to spend down for my Mom to qualify for Medicaid. She has dementia and heart condition plus a list of other issues a mile long that prevent her from going home ever again. She's been in a nursing home for over 4 years. I did all the work, but under the knowledge of her PoA - he signed off on everything.
I know I will have to just wait out the clothes issue with my dad. There is one item that is causing me a little grief though. Years ago, my dad gave me an old 1875 double-barrel 12 gauge with Damascus barrels. I am the gun person in the family, am a reenactor, love to target shoot, etc. My great-grandfather bought the gun in 1875 when it was brand new and he engraved his name and the date he bought it on the stock. It is a family heirloom and because it is one of a very few from a specific manufacturer, is documented, and still has the original cleaning rod and gun sock, is worth some money--not to me. It's priceless and not for sale and never will be for sale. Someone else in the family has been asking where the shotgun is. My dad says it's my call whether or not to give the gun to this person who doesn't have any children to hand it down to. I'm not the one with the family name anymore, but at least I won't sell the thing. My husband has offered to buy the gun to keep it in the family, but maybe I shouldn't even give it away? If I don't, it may cause family problems though. This is a lot tougher call than those darn clothes...
On the next to the last day we were having the sale we rented a dumpster, and then placed another ad in craigslist letting folks know that the last day of the Eastland sale was a free day... All we ask is that, if someone takes something for free, they grab a trashbag and haul it up from the basement or down from the attic and toss it into the dumpster for us.
It was amazing. Scores of people who had come to the sale, many multiple times, showed up on free day just to help. Someone even posted on Craigslist how wonderful our sales had been and put out a call for help to all who had attended. By the end of the day, the dumpster was full and the house was nearly empty. We could have never done it without Craigslist.
Doing it this way we didn't make a lot of money. But it was enough to pay for my plane ticket, my expenses, pay my friend Theresa something for her time and pay for the dumpster. Most importantly, it was done! My father was so relieved when I told him it brought tears to my eyes. We didn't know he had been worrying so much about what to do about the house (he knew he was a hoarder and that it was bad).
This was a GREAT use of Craigslist! We did think of having an estate sale company but two turned me down when I called and explained the situation, so this turned out to be a super solution.
For VA A&A, you should clearly find out IF any of the new changes to A&A have any sort of look-back as the Medicaid program does. I think the new VA A&A changes go into effect this FY.
What can happen is that since VA A&A only pays for those living at home or Il or AL and will stop being paid once they enter a LTC/SNF, so in order to pay for LTC/SNK aka a NH, they need to apply for Medicaid. What can happen is if the property was deed over for the AL years, everything is OK for VA but then they need higher level of care in a NH the next year, so that deed comes back to be a transfer penalty if it's within the 5 yr lookback required by Medicaid. Transfer penalties of real property is really hard to get around or get reduced as the information is there to the penny on the record at the courthouse & tax assessors office & dovetails to state records.
When Dad fell, they were living in an independent apartment building with lots of furniture & belongings. The surgeon told me there was no way Dad would be able to go back into independent living after he'd finished rehab. So...........I was left with the dilemma of what to do with all that 'stuff'? Much of the furniture was dated, but in good condition. I called the Salvation Army 800 phone number, and they sent a truck over to take everything. The men came up into the apartment, and loaded everything into the truck for what's called a 'house clean-out'. You can use the donation as a tax deduction, too. Just keep a detailed list of everything you donate, with a $ amount. I kept the personal mementos for myself, and packed up a few boxes of belongings for Mom to take with her into the AL facility she moved into with Dad, and that was about it. Maybe not the smartest move financially, but surely the easiest way to get rid of a LOT of stuff with little hassle.
What strikes me is how life comes down to precious little in terms of 'stuff'. My Dad died with 3 things: a watch, a ring, and a gold chain. But what he left us with is tremendous: memories, love & gentle kindness that will live in our hearts forever. The 'stuff' is irrelevant, isn't it?
Wishing you the best of luck, dear one.
Don't count on your kids to be there or to appreciate or give a fig about the old clock, silver, photo albums……..
Ah, do I feel your situation.
My husband (82) has way over 3,500 books in our house and will not even talk about sorting and weeding. I would like to take care of this now while I am 65 rather than 75 or 85. But he will not even have a conversation about it. So, I have accepted that it has to happen "later." I think this is the case with your dad. You are just going to have to wait until "later" and then, finally, you can go to Goodwill.
Meanwhile, all, I am cleaning out drawers and cupboards and closets like a mad woman. Be well!
get me through this. One thing for sure I will not tell her the house is gone because my mom also would be pissed and take it out on her caregivers.
The sewing stuff all went to the nuns at a nearby convent, apparently they have a sewing circle from several parishes who make layettes.
But the old travel & old printed material (magazines, cooking guides) was used by teachers & they were thrilled to get it to be able to use for collages. One of my artist cousins brought a middle school teacher over & they took a van full of stuff. Art programs if they even exist in public schools are underfunded & moms stuff could convert to supplies. It was nice knowing that some of my childhood vacation could become McCarthy's " the Road" book report collage.
Mom moved from home to IL so it was a culling of stuff to do this, maybe 1/4 of furniture moved to IL. Rest of house less a bedroom got sold at garage sale. Made less than $ 1,000. Really unless your parents are the rare true collector most of what is in that house filled with decades of items is pretty worthless.
let all our posts be a lesson to ourselves to downsize
First, I am the POA. Yes, I did have to sell the house and many of the contents. I kept a some things for myself and my daughter. But my mom had been an antique dealer in the 60's and 70's and she had a LOT of stuff. Her house was bursting.
Many very nice antiques that my daughter and I either had no room for or real interest in (the list would stun you! Copper lustre, state plates, fairy lamps, ...), I gave over to an antiques auctioneer. We have a lot of those in our area. As I have written elsewhere, we did not get much for them though the auction was well attended by collectors and dealers. The antiques market tanked, which I did not know. It paid for 2/3 of a month in her AL! That was just last summer--my mom has been in AL for thirteen months. I never told her about this sale and I never, ever will. Interestingly, she rhapsodizes for hours about her antiques but when I once mentioned one specific important piece, she could remember it. (FYI, we thought it was worth $10-20K. Turns out it was worth, and I have triple checked this: $300. But I digress...)
I sold the house last July. I told her about it months after the sale and she just assumed that she had forgotten it. And, then, she forgot that, too. Every now and then she remembers and says that she wants to move back so that she can work in the garden. My husband and I sit quietly and do not remind her that SHE COMPLAINED ABOUT WORKING IN THE GARDEN FOR FIVE MONTHS OF EVERY YEAR UNTIL WE HAD TEARS IN OUR EYES.
The happy ending to the story is that she is really content in her AL and plays bridge several times a week. In fact, in this short time, she has become so acclimated to it that she actually gets a tad nervous when we take her out. She enjoys a short ride to a quiet place for an ice cream or lunch or dinner. Then she is almost relieved to go back. One hour, not too far, not too many people or too much confusion. That is what she can handle now. and that is just right for us, too.
I know in some cases money is an issue but I spent a small amount to hire people to help me. One was a "relocation" company --two women who do this for a living.
They came in and helped me organize, pack and even took things to donation centers. I had a close friend there when they came in and we all packed things up. They kept us on track and focused
It cost me $200 and believe me it was the best money I spent. The woman from the company kept us on track and gave us a lot of hints on what to do and how to do it. Another person came in who owns a second hand store and she looked over things and told me what she wanted to buy. I used her mover to get the things to her shop. That was $150. So far she has sold about $600 of my mom's things.
I did rent a small storage unit for the things I did not know what to do with and needed more time to look into what they were worth. That is costing about $50 a month but it took the pressure off about getting rid of things. My sister and I are going thru those things as we can and selling some on eBay. I don't plan to keep it for long but it gives us time to look into what to do with some of mom's things.
Also some of the donation centers will pick things up for free. St. Vincent De Paul is one as is AmVets. What about the public library for her books? Is there anything of historical significance that the local library or history museum might want?I also had to shred a lot of paperwork from years ago that my mom kept. Sometimes your community has a shredding day (free) where you can take up to 50lbs at a time.I didn't know any of this until I had to take care of this for my mom. Talk to your friends and ask if they have had to do this and how they did it. It was amazing what kind of information I found out by doing that. Also if you have a senior citizen center in your area, contact them to see if you can get any helpful hints. It is a very hard thing to do.