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BarbBrooklyn: There are people who do this professionally? ON PURPOSE???

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Professional home organizers. Geriatric care managers. Personal assistants.

Hey, if you have a great career already, pay me no mind. But you're really good at this stuff.
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Thank you for the compliment, BarbBrooklyn! I was a licensed social worker in a previous life.

But yeah, I do have a great career as a business analyst, making a very good living, plus I get to work from my home office. In my jammies. I'm a lucky girl, in that regard!
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I'm so glad to hear that your incredible management ability is being put to good use, and that it's remenerated properly. Tinkster, you are a really good daughter!
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Thank youuuuuuuuuuuuuuu! Now would any of you ladies who are 76+ years of age like to adopt me? Just so we could share some feminine hygiene commercial-type special mom/daughter moments every once in a while? You would have to promise not to lie to me or call me the C-word. lol
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I'll adopt you happily, tinkster. You do have awesome skills. I am 79 and I am not lying lol

The social worker in the hospital where mother was for a year couldn't draw up a balance sheet to save her life. Such a nice gal, but periodically,not regularly, she sent me a bunch of receipts and a sheet from the office with the balance of mother's account there. I could see no connection between them, so finally I gave up trying and trusted that no one was stealing.

It will be alright, Your mother will see this as a new phase of "the game" and work to get back into control. I would not be surprised if she has a health crisis soon - in time to disrupt your wedding plans. Don't let it. Leave it all to the bros and sils and get on with your life. You have earned it and you deserve it. (((((((((Hugs))))))).
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Not sure what C word you are referring to but I promise not to use it!
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Tinkster, I'm 41, will you adopt me and teach me the ways of the ... what was it? ... financial management for women? I need that.

I've seen the more recent posts to this thread, but went back and read from beginning. Tinkster, my sense of wanting to be a good daughter/sister/family person has kept me doing more than my share of the caregiving for my dad (who was abusive, absentee, can be combative, has cognitive issues, previous psych hospitalizations). I've logically accepted that I'll never get the approval I want, and that it's healthy for me to go on with my own life and stop seeking this thing I'll never have... but the emotional detachment is something we have to practice by our actions. (In my experience, anyway.)

You've been through a terrible caregiving situation, but you figured it all out pretty quickly, compared to some. And not that I'm comparing, but I do wonder how I gave the last 5.5 years to caregiving... and I think in my case it has to do with believing that it's "one more thing" and then things would level off, stabilize, and my dad would be safer, healthier...

So much more I could say, but mostly I wanted to tell you that your sharing here is, and will be, inspiration to others who are caring for parents or Loved Ones who have been hurtful and dysfunctional family all of their lives. Caregiving to someone like that - who *is* a broken person, like your mother is, like my father is - is so incredibly difficult. You're not a quitter. Your mom's care is a like a trick question, and there is no correct answer that you can come up with.

You most definitely do NOT owe it to anyone to set yourself on fire to keep them from freezing. Great thread.

Huge congrats on your detaching from caregiving and on your upcoming marriage. I hope your health stuff subsides some. I don't know how you do it -- the 60 workweek plus a caregiving situation like this, plus you're in a sleep study because of the low oxygenation/apnea. My hat's off to you. Like I said - this thread is quite inspirational.

I'm sure there will be mama-drama coming soon. That's to be expected. But you've come a long way in, really, a short time. Good for you. :-) (((hugs)))
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And I think your good bro may have some emotional/mental backlash from hands on caregiving to your mom. I've gone through some... weird... mental happenings since coming back into contact with a father that was absentee all my life... and not just back in contact, but living under same roof, experiencing and remembering the dysfunction and unhappiness of my childhood. That does have a way of being very triggering, something similar to PTSD, or it is actual PTSD, I'm not sure. Now that good bro is removed from the situation, hopefully he'll level off, but I say that I am forever changed because of my caregiving experience with my father. My life is "Before Caregiving" and (very soon, in the works now) "After Caregiving." I have to find a new normal for myself. Maybe good bro is looking for his new normal.
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AliBoBali, you hit the nail on the head about Good Bro. He was telling me the other day pretty much what you just said. I hope I can be a good Big Sister and give him the space and time he needs to mend/change into his new form, while making sure he knows I'm here for him and I've got his back. Whatever he needs.
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For the past couple of months, I've been reading about detachment: What it means. How to do it. Etc. I spent a lot of time last night reading over the replies here and digging into my heart and brain to figure out where I am.

My mom has made her way in this world through pity. People feeling sorry for her and doing everything they could to enable her, take care of all of her needs (even when she was able to do so) and make sure she had whatever she wanted or needed. Growing up, the thing that made me the saddest in my young life was feeling sorry for my mom and wanting to do everything I could to make up for the lousy hand she was dealt. I even found that as I traveled the world in the military and throughout my life, every new vista... every new experience... was tainted by the sadness that I was experiencing something my mom never would. That sadness really kept me from living life with as much happiness and enjoyment as I could/should have.

During my thinking time last night, I finally realized that mom chose her own path. Yes, she has had MS for half a century plus. She has mobility issues, but other than that is more healthy than I am! Now I've known a LOT of people with chronic illness over my lifetime, and other than my mom, they all CHOSE to live as full a life as possible. I have a quadriplegic friend who is the director of the area abilities center. I know someone who lost their sight through illness at the age of 17, but they adapted and continued to LIVE. And for Pete's sake, look at Stephen Hawking!

My mom CHOSE to not live well and happily. She CHOSE to not find ways to enrich her life and make it better, for whatever reason. And any time anyone invested love, time, care and even money in trying to MAKE her life better, she resisted and even became abusive towards them.

I've become convinced that being happy would make her miserable, as crazy as that sounds.

In my ignorance, I spent my life trying to make her happy, do nice things for her, took her on her one and only plane trip, took her to a concert, tried to find ways to make her life better all from a distance. When she came here to live, I just knew that being able to be hands-on with her situation I could make a difference.

But deep inside, she knew what I didn't.

I'm convinced she has always known that if she didn't have something to worry about, something to be angry or upset about... If she was HAPPY... then people would no longer pity her or feel sorry for her, and that would mean she lost her power over all of us. And she sure didn't want THAT!

So with all that in mind, and fueled by the lighter load my shoulders are carrying today, I decided to call my mom this morning. As I've mentioned, I tried calling her all week, to no avail. I wanted to reach out today to remind her that I won't be handling her bills, etc. anymore, and to give her a heads-up that the process included sending her a form by certified mail.

I called. She answered. She sounded wary... almost nervous. I told her I was glad to finally be able to reach her. I said, "When we spoke Sunday, I let you know that I will no longer be taking care of your bill paying and such. I found that part of that process -- since it was a legal arrangement -- is that I send you a form by certified mail that makes it official."

She was surprised, and it seemed like she might have thought my reluctance to continue as POA would blow over or something. But she said, "That's good. That's really too much for you to take on anyway."

Now THAT, my friends, was the test for me. LOL! It wasn't "too much for me to take on". It was only a problem because she was difficult. I decided not to engage (I'm detaching. Remember?) though I did say, "Yes, given the way things are, it's really better for me that I not continue."

I gave her a quick overview of the bill/payment/account sheet she'll be getting along with the POA resignation, and I mentioned that I included the contact info for the tax preparer I used for her taxes this year. She started to talk about "I don't work. I don't file taxes. I don't need to contact someone to help with that.", which was an oft repeated argument from her.

I could feel my chest tightening, my heart racing, my throat closing up, my stomach clenching. I started to panic. What if whoever picks up taking care of this stuff for her doesn't get her taxes done because she says she doesn't need to? She'll get in trouble with the IRS! She will owe penalties! MAYBE SHE WILL GO TO JAIL!

Breathe. Detach. Detach. Detach.

So I said, "I'm sure that whoever you trust to take over for me will see to it that what needs to be done is done, just as I have."

I don't care what happens.

Sanity begins the moment you admit you're powerless over other people. I only have power over myself, and today is my first step towards finding that power and using it to build the best and happiest life for myself that I can.
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Tinkster, brava! It's not a lack of caring, but you have chosen not to be held hostage. I hope your wedding is beautiful. and may your brother find healing too. "Go confidently in the direction of your dreams."
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Good for you Tinkster! It's tough doing what you've decided to do and I applaud you for taking the time to think it through and then to follow through with your decision. You go girl!!
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GOOD. FOR.

YOU! Please please leave this mess and go on and make a happy life for yourself!
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Tinkster... I just read the whole thread (OK...took me four days to get through it with all else going on). Wow... what a strong person you are for having overcome a ghastly childhood and all the ongoing battles with your "woe is me" manuplative senior mom. And most of all for being willing to step away and realize that it's your time now. You've done all you can do, more then most could have done and you are absolutely right. It's your time now. I've only one thing to ask...

Please come back to this thread and keep us updated from time to time. We want to know if it all worked...if you really truely got to the point where you were able to, nearly guilt free, put your needs before the needs of a mother who didn't deserve all you did, and were willing to do, if she could just have said please and thank you, and meant it!

So, hope to hear from you soon..and also all about your wedding! ;-)
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Congratulations! I am amazed at how well you handled this. Great boundaries. Better late than never, right?

Happy marriage to you! What a great reward for
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Reading, watching, learning.
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Tinkster - You have taken the healthy route. There comes a time... Good for you! Blessings on your future!
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It's been over a month since I posted last, and nearly a month since I resigned as POA. I thought you might like an update :-)

I'm married! Everything went splendidly, and the wedding was perfect! Very, very small (my BFF and Good Brother), the venue was lovely, and we all cried through the whole thing. What kept going through my mind as I was surrounded by these three people who care for me deeply was "THIS IS WHAT LOVE FEELS LIKE!"

Christmas came a week later, and it was a quiet, private affair. We really scaled back this year, and we both were able to embrace our choice instead of feeling like we'd fallen short. It was a holiday for US, and WE did it the way WE wanted/needed to.

Between no longer having the stress/pressure of being POA and the nearly two weeks I took off work, I was able to rest and heal and thrive. I needed that SO MUCH.

Now, for the mom stuff.

Getting the certified letter in my mom's hands was a minor challenge, as she won't answer the door for mail carriers or delivery people. Good Brother was there for a visit (his first in months) when the mail carrier made his second attempt to deliver, and he signed for it and gave it to mom. The effective date of my resignation was 12/15. Three days before my wedding.

Interestingly, I didn't hear from my mom at all from the time I spoke to her about my resignation until January 4th. No mother/daughter talks about the wedding. No "You must be so excited!" or "I'm so happy for you!" calls. No "Merry Christmas" or "Happy New Year" calls. It was the lack of wedding calls that kind of broke my heart, but I gave myself a dose of reality and said, "Why would you ever think she would want to be a part of your happiness? Stop setting yourself up for disappointment with her and focus on those who are willing and able to let you know they care about you."

During this blackout period, I did try to call her several times a week. Most of the time I left a voice message, asking her to call me. She didn't. Until 1/4.

Though my mom has had computers since the 1980s, she is a "lazy thinker". The moment something doesn't work like she thinks it should, she will either put it away and never touch it again, or she will literally destroy it. Growing up, I can't tell you the number and scope of items that ended up being thrown out the back door at the big old Sycamore tree: vacuum cleaners, potted ferns, dinners that didn't turn out. So although she has always had a computer available to her over the past 40-ish years, she rarely uses them.

So on January 4th, I get a friend request from my mom on Facebook. She had a Facebook account for a while back in 2007 or so, but I think she only ever logged in three or four times. So when I got the friend request from her on January 4th, at first I thought it was a fake. A scammer. But I looked at the profile pic and realized it looked like a new photo of her. So I sent the person a message, saying, "Just checking to be sure it's really you."

She replied a little while later, with "Yes i bought a computer and your brother and his wife set it up and showed me stuff. Don't know what i would do with out them. They got a new car."

I responded with, "Awesome!!! So glad things are working out well for all of you! I will accept your friend request now that I know it's really you and not some scammer :-)".

I was surprised and, frankly, relieved that she seemed to be doing well and was giving the computer thing a go yet again. And I was especially glad to see that she was trying Facebook again so that she could at least keep up with her grandkids and stuff. I did think it was kind of odd that she would add the part about the car though.

A few hours later, mom calls me. She is in a panic and says, "Your brother and his wife insisted I call you and tell you that I didn't buy that car for them or give them any money. And it's not a NEW new car. It's just new to them."

I said, "No need to share that with me. Your finances are no longer my responsibility. Glad to hear they got a better car. I know you weren't able to ride in their old one during this cold weather because the heater didn't work." She kept going on and on about how I needed to know that she didn't give them any money. I finally said, "Look. I don't know how else to tell you this other than to repeat it again: It's not my concern. When I *did* have responsibility, I told you about Medicaid looking back five years and telling you that you needed to be careful and keep good records. What you spend or don't spend money on is your business. It always has been."

She finally let go of it and said, "So. What's been going on?"

I just told her that since I'd last heard from her, I'd gotten married, gotten a promotion and a raise and celebrated the holidays. She said, "Well that's nice for you." Goodbyes were said. End of call.

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CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS POST

Right after I got off the phone with mom, I brought up Facebook and saw that I had a private message from my mom's account. I opened it up and it said, "Hey Debbie it's Mary (not her real name), Just wanted to make it clear Bob (not his real name) and I bought our car. Your mom didn't help." It was brother's wife messaging me via my mom's Facebook account. Weird. I replied with "I'm not responsible for things like that anymore. I legally resigned as of 12/15/2016."

Why is everyone obsessed with telling me about the car?

When I WAS the POA, no one would tell me anything. New secret accounts were opened, money was withdrawn from investment accounts, lies were told... Why all of a sudden the need for full disclosure? And why the undeniable panic?

So other than that small weirdness, things have been pretty wonderful. I'm getting better and better at letting go of it all. I haven't had any mom nightmares since around mid-December. And resigning as POA has been so freaking freeing that I don't have the vocabulary to convey the feeling!

My BFF used to come over once a week to clean, shop and cook. We love spending the time together, I appreciate the things she does and she enjoys the extra money. She had some serious hand surgery and was unable to come for several months. She'll be back for the first time tomorrow! Another step towards getting MY LIFE back on track and under control.
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1. CONGRATULATIONS!!! And I'm so happy to hear what a brilliant start you have made - may it be as you mean to go on :)

2. About the car - well, to look on the bright side, the more scared they are of being reported for wrongdoing the better they're likely to behave. So it really doesn't matter if they think you're watching, even if you're not and wouldn't and no longer have that responsibility thank the Lord. When you're in the mood and not busier with more interesting and important things, I suppose you might usefully impress on them that you really don't care and they are not accountable to you - but they are to somebody, even if only APS. So they should keep up the good work!

And have fun, of course...

Never mind it all. May 2017 all come right for you, hugs.
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You sound so HAPPY! :) It's amazing to see someone enjoying their shiny new life. Go you!
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Tinkster, So great to hear the Update, and that everything is going well for you! Congratulations on your Wedding! All good things in the future to you both! I've learned so much from your posts, and I'm glad they are on the AC, for all to see and refer to, as so many people are in your Old Shoes, and don't know a way out! Me, being of of them!

A little different circumstances, but the dysfunction is all there. And now, after a mere mention (via phone call) from my husband to his absentee, Con Artist of a brother in another state, about the fact than in the near future (or hopefully sometime before summer), Con Artist brother seems to think that he can ride in on his White Horse, and save the day, by bringing their 87 year old Father, to live with him! Huh? Say What? What was my husband thinking when he told him this, and Why does this brother even think that he and his 9th wife could manage caring for his Dad (living in a Motel where his wife manages the place, no less), after we've been doing so, in our home for the past 13 years? Get The H*ll Out Of Here!

My husband made a foolish mistake by mentioning Anything, and it was intended as an informational heads up, and now brother has taken the ball and run with it, several phone calls later, so he can Con his wife (whom none of us have ever even met), into the idea, but now, he is now backing off the idea, NO S#@T SHERLOCK!

Typical reaction from BIL, thinking he could make a buck off his frail and aged old man, and even if it were possible (which it is not, nor would I ever allow it), he would end up right back on our porch, broke, with nowhere to go.

But as much as it is a Pipe Dream, to have a Responsible family member, willing to step up and help us out, for a fleeting second there I was like, SURE, LET HIM GO! But there just isn't one available, to help share in his caring and physical and mental needs going forward. He does have 2 other kids besides my husband, but they are both completely self absorbed, no good jerks, that have never shown any interest in their Dad in 13 years, except to try conning money out of him.

There is a solution, but this definitely isn't it! Still, I dream, and will continue to find a way to make our situation better for all concerned!

Poor BIL is going to have to find another way to make a buck!
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Wow staceyb!!! If BIL's own life is any indication, that would NOT go well, as you said.

It sounds as though you're resourceful, and I'm sure if there is a better solution you will find it!
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Tinkster, congratulations. Remember - the guilty flee where no one pursueth. It's hard for narcissists to believe that you are out of it. That you really have given it up to them to handle and that you are "not responsible". Good. for you. And Stacey, your husband is still in the FOG, ever hopeful his siblings will turn out better than they are. I tell my husband all the time not to tell his parents ANYTHING about what he does. They only twist for their own benefit.
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tinkster, love your update from a month ago. great news for you and your mom. And it give me hope!
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Please note - what happens to people is part of the aging process and nothing we do is going to stop the march of time. When you were a child, no doubt someone looked after you and took care of you - that is the way it is supposed to be. Someday perhaps someone will need to look after you - but now is the time for you to live your life to the fullest. Do whatever you can to help but do not let anyone destroy you, your family or your way of life. They had their time in life - now it is your turn. If you have to move them out of your life, then do it. It may be very hard but sometimes it is the only sane option and in time you will find peace knowing you did what you had to do. Good luck. Been there.
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UPDATE

Well, my mom has been "under the care of" my bad brother and his wife for about three months now. It's not going well.

My mom never calls me, my good brother or his daughter. She very rarely answers the phone, either. I periodically try to call her throughout the week, and we connect once every week or two, on average. It was on my calendar to try calling mom again today, as it had been weeks since I was able to connect with her.

She answered, but didn't respond when I said hi. I heard her fussing with the phone, and then the line went dead. My first thought was that she hung up when she heard my voice. I called back, she answered and we had about fifteen minute conversation.

Here are the points I gleaned from that call:
She has been in the hospital
They wanted her to stay longer, but she left
She had/has a UTI
She had/has a rash all over and a fever
She wishes she was back in the hospital, as she left too soon
She doesn't wish she was back in the hospital
She weighs 88 pounds and her doctor is concerned

So in other words, she is right back where she was when she came to us back in June of 2015.

This is such a shame, as she was doing so well at the ALF she finally settled into. Her weight was up to 120, her UTI situation was very well managed by the ALF staff and she was socializing and making friends.

Unfortunately, as you might recall, she decided to leave the ALF and move to the boondocks, buying a trailer next door to my brother and his wife. As a refresher for you, this brother was released from prison last year after serving a couple of years for Felony Assault related to Domestic Violence. He broke his wife's arm very badly. This brother is also an alcoholic and drug user. Mom takes Oxycodone and other painkillers.

My first instinct, given what I've learned this morning, is to rush in and try to rescue my mom from bad brother, his wife (who is a horrible, horrible person in her own right) and from my mom herself. Mom has had a death wish for over 50 years and has made several suicide attempts. She talks about just "wanting it to be over" all the time.

Intellectually, I know I can't fix this, but I'm really struggling with standing idly by while it all goes to h*ll in a handbasket. The fact is, my mom is just hanging out waiting to die, and I think she knew she would have a better chance of that happening if she put herself in the care of bad brother and spouse.

Bottom line is, SHE WANTS THIS. Do I even have a right to interfere? Do I call adult protective services knowing that will effectively sever all contact my mom might want to have with me? What would that really accomplish?
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Call APS. Consider yourself in the light of a mandated reporter, put what you've just written in writing, and email them or write to them.

The thing is, suppose God forbid it all went belly-up this weekend and you'd done nothing to raise the alarm.

Sever all contact, now... well... really? Would it? If she has been in hospital (could you call the hospital and fact-check that?) she'll be on their radar anyway, or she should be - anyone could have decided it was time for a follow-up on how she's doing, doesn't have to have been you.

And even if she and BB and evil SIL do put two and two together, what have you lost?

It's not like you're calling APS and saying Evil Brother Is Abusing Vulnerable Mother, or even accusing anyone of anything. You're calling APS to report a risky situation and asking them to check it out. End of.

Your mother may still get her wish. But it won't be with your tacit co-operation, that's all.
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PS I forgot to say: and the big plus of reporting it is that then you've done what you can and you can stop worrying about it.

How are YOU? How's married life? Much more interesting! :)
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