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Whats a good length of time to visit? I try to get in, deliver clean clothes. Check around, follow up with nurses. If i linger family becomes confused that were going “home” then crying etc.
I never experienced this kind of thing before. When mom was in her end of life hospice home, she was always happy to see me. Her dementia was mild. She had Parkinson’s disease.
I am so sorry that you are going through this with your mom. I agree with others, that if extended visits are bothersome to her, then I would cut your visit short.
Wishing you peace as you continue on your caregiving journey.
The only other thing I will add is, if you need a break, please take time for yourself without feeling bad about it. You can always speak with the staff over the phone.
That has to be so hard. I would feel helpless in a situation like you are dealing with.
You’re doing the best thing for your mom and yourself by not overstaying your welcome.
The truly sad part is that there is no hope of anything improving when a person has dementia. It’s a progressive disease.
It’s hard to endure watching anyone who has a progressive disease.
I often prayed for my mom not to suffer as much as she did with her Parkinson’s disease, which is also progressive.
Sometimes, I felt like I was wasting my time praying because there is no cure for Parkinson’s disease or dementia.
Mom’s dementia was mild. I feel for people who are dealing with dementia in moderate to severe stages.
Mom prayed daily. It brought her peace. I admired her faith. I found myself filled with doubts and often felt like I was just going through the motions.
It got to the point with my mom that it was about 10-15 minutes. Fortunately I lived close by. I could handle bringing her some little item she would request, then visit for a few minutes. That was all I could handle before all the looping, repetitive conversations would start. I would answer a few questions as pleasntly as possible and they say- oh- gotta go- the doggies need to be fed and let out, and then I would leave. She sometimes would say, so soon? But then she would forget that maybe I was even there.
What I let bother me for some reason, was the reaction of staff memebers and fellow residents. They would say things like - that was a quick visit! Boy - you were in and out quick! It would annoy me but I'd just come back with, yep- on my way home from work or whatver. It was none of their business but it irked me.
I finally decied for me 10 -15 minutes several times a week and eating a meal with her in the dining room once or twice a week was all I could handle. I would see other residents families spending long afternoons and evenings with their person but some of them were not as far along the dementia, decline road my mom was and if they were judging me- well hell, so what?
Let the facility do her laundry . Read your profile . Limit visits to once or twice a week for your own mental health and marriage . Make them short visits . You can’t make Mom happy . It’s impossible .
Sounds like you’re doing the best you can given the status of your family member. The most important part is making sure the person is being properly cared for and having the staff aware that this is a person who’s loved and valued
Do what is comfortable for you and the person you are visiting. Somedays 15 minutes might be fine, other days 15 minutes will seem like a day. And on a good day 15 minutes might seem like no time at all. When you leave try to make sure that the person you are visiting is engaged in an activity if seeing you leave is stressful. If they are involved in a game, a meal or a TV show you can slip out easily. OR you can go when you KNOW they are eating a meal. Slip into the room do what you need to do and leave. They don't even need to know you were there.
I would do WHAT WORKS.l Each person is different. My brother in his ALF loved long long chats out at the gazebo, watching the world go by, talking about past and future. We used, when I visited him, to sit on one or another of our beds in a.m. just chatting and draining the coffee pot. And that was how it was on visits until his death. If, however, the visit brings on weeping and upset, and you are reassured by staff that this isn't the case in the course of the day, it is best to say "I can see you're upset. I have so many things to do, so I will go now and I'll be back soon". It is a kind of Pavlovian training that the waterworks end with being left sooner than later. If you discuss with CNAs and they tell you that sorrow is the constant setting time to discuss something like a try at low dose anti depressant or even gummies which are now given in my friend's mom's NH and has made ALL THE DIFFERENCE for her outlook.
Do if your visit is bringing joy, stay longer. If it is bringing sorrow, leave. If the CNAs tell you that sorrow is the default setting then time to discuss low dose anti depressants with doc. Some places are now giving some mild gummies and while it is late in life to turn to MaryJane, it is making all the difference for my friend's mom in Austin TX. She was non verbal and is now in much better humor.
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Based on your preferences, we provide you with information about one or more of our contracted senior living providers ("Participating Communities") and provide your Senior Living Care Information to Participating Communities. The Participating Communities may contact you directly regarding their services.
APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
II. How We Are Paid.
We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour.
APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
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You have no obligation to use or to continue to use our services. Because you pay no fee to us, you will never need to ask for a refund.
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I am so sorry that you are going through this with your mom. I agree with others, that if extended visits are bothersome to her, then I would cut your visit short.
Wishing you peace as you continue on your caregiving journey.
The only other thing I will add is, if you need a break, please take time for yourself without feeling bad about it. You can always speak with the staff over the phone.
Take care.
I need to protect MY mental health.
Still reeling from this morning's visit. It was a doozy.
You’re doing the best thing for your mom and yourself by not overstaying your welcome.
The truly sad part is that there is no hope of anything improving when a person has dementia. It’s a progressive disease.
It’s hard to endure watching anyone who has a progressive disease.
I often prayed for my mom not to suffer as much as she did with her Parkinson’s disease, which is also progressive.
Sometimes, I felt like I was wasting my time praying because there is no cure for Parkinson’s disease or dementia.
Mom’s dementia was mild. I feel for people who are dealing with dementia in moderate to severe stages.
Mom prayed daily. It brought her peace. I admired her faith. I found myself filled with doubts and often felt like I was just going through the motions.
What I let bother me for some reason, was the reaction of staff memebers and fellow residents. They would say things like - that was a quick visit! Boy - you were in and out quick!
It would annoy me but I'd just come back with, yep- on my way home from work or whatver. It was none of their business but it irked me.
I finally decied for me 10 -15 minutes several times a week and eating a meal with her in the dining room once or twice a week was all I could handle. I would see other residents families spending long afternoons and evenings with their person but some of them were not as far along the dementia, decline road my mom was and if they were judging me- well hell, so what?
Limit visits to once or twice a week for your own mental health and marriage . Make them short visits .
You can’t make Mom happy . It’s impossible .
Somedays 15 minutes might be fine, other days 15 minutes will seem like a day. And on a good day 15 minutes might seem like no time at all.
When you leave try to make sure that the person you are visiting is engaged in an activity if seeing you leave is stressful. If they are involved in a game, a meal or a TV show you can slip out easily.
OR you can go when you KNOW they are eating a meal. Slip into the room do what you need to do and leave. They don't even need to know you were there.
Each person is different.
My brother in his ALF loved long long chats out at the gazebo, watching the world go by, talking about past and future. We used, when I visited him, to sit on one or another of our beds in a.m. just chatting and draining the coffee pot. And that was how it was on visits until his death.
If, however, the visit brings on weeping and upset, and you are reassured by staff that this isn't the case in the course of the day, it is best to say "I can see you're upset. I have so many things to do, so I will go now and I'll be back soon".
It is a kind of Pavlovian training that the waterworks end with being left sooner than later.
If you discuss with CNAs and they tell you that sorrow is the constant setting time to discuss something like a try at low dose anti depressant or even gummies which are now given in my friend's mom's NH and has made ALL THE DIFFERENCE for her outlook.
Do if your visit is bringing joy, stay longer.
If it is bringing sorrow, leave.
If the CNAs tell you that sorrow is the default setting then time to discuss low dose anti depressants with doc. Some places are now giving some mild gummies and while it is late in life to turn to MaryJane, it is making all the difference for my friend's mom in Austin TX. She was non verbal and is now in much better humor.