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As for making plans for the future if you have pets.. my 35 YO DD has a cranky 15 YO chihuahua, and we (mid 60s ) have a 6 YO Chug. we have both agreed to take on the puppers if something happens to any of us. Its not just the elderly who can leave a pet in the lurch! This is something that needs to be addressed prior to an emergency, to be fair to the pets we love. I would be heartbroken to think either of these sweethearts would be rehomed to a place they did not know,, or possibly taken to a shelter. I think Mom would do better if she knew they were going to a home where they would be loved, My Mom was very attached to both dogs
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NeedHelpWithMom Sep 2023
Pam,

One of my mom’s home health nurses was so lovely. She told us about one of her patients who had a cute little dog that took to her as soon as she met her.

The old woman was going to live in a nursing home and couldn’t take her dog with her.

The woman asked this nurse if she would be willing to take the dog because the dog truly loved her and she said she would be so happy knowing that her dog was loved.

The nurse agreed to take her dog and the dog adjusted well in her new home. Happy ending for the woman, the nurse and the dog!
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I know very well that this comment will not go down well with many posters, but I think someone needs to make it:

Many of us long for a peaceful death for ourselves or the people we are caring for. Many elderly people also long for a peaceful death for themselves, when their bodies or their future lives aren’t working out well. "I hope I die in my sleep". The option is already there in some places, and there is a lot of pressure to make it more widely available. The opposition is usually religious.

A peaceful death is not a bad option for pets, too, when circumstances have changed and their care becomes very difficult. The vet can arrange it so that they do not suffer.
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TouchMatters Sep 2023
Your comment doesn't "go down well' due to the issue not AT ALL indicating. the age of the dogs / and putting them down ???

The dogs could be adopted out or other arrangements could be made.

You are hugely jumping to conclusions - and your response doesn't address the emotional attachment of this woman's relationship and feelings about her dogs. I question if you mis-read the post? as your response doesn't make any sense, or clearly misses the point.
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Milocat: Understandably she flipped out knowing that apparently arrangements had been made for her, but not her dogs. Get the dogs rehomed first and then your mother can better consider the nursing facility.
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Certainly an attachment to a pet / dog is major.

Could someone else take the dogs ? and visit her?

If she won't remember conversations you have with her, how will she remember to feed / take care of the dogs?

[I worked with a client who had a lovely dog - I took care of a lot of her needs when I was there 3-4 x / week. Although if I wasn't there, the poop would build up on the patio (pads) to the point the dog started to poop in the small apartment. I also took the dog to the vet as needed.

Clearly it sounds like your mom would need a caregiver to take care of the dogs although I realize this isn't your question).

Does she / can she take care of the dogs - now - in the future?
If she cannot, she'll need to surrender the dogs at some points - not easy any time.

If it possible for her to move into a facility that'll take dogs (I know, a shot in the dark asking). In Mill Valley - The Redwoods allows dogs. Although this development is several levels of care, not a nursing home.

There is no easy way to address this. It is a MAJOR LOSS for your mom.
(I see it with several clients - some have had strokes and family immediately takes the dog away).

I'll read some of the others' responses. My suggestion would be to listen to your mom - her emotional pain and provide reflective listening ("I hear you saying ... I know you feel xxx").

That she doesn't want to move due to this bonding with her beloved dogs (is very close to my heart, too although I don't have any I'm sad to say) and I am functional / could have a dog here.

Bottom line, it is either
1) up to her to move or not, depending on your legal authority
2) if she has decision making;
3) if she has short term memory loss, it seems to be your decision
4) Her welfare and safety comes first. If she needs care, the dogs are secondary, no matter how difficult the parting / separation of her and her dogs. It is a heartbreaking situation.

Gena / Touch Matters
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Has the OP responded back? We are having a huge discussion about this without any further feedback from the OP!

Apparently, the forum has many people who love animals! Hey, some pets are nicer than some people that we know, right? 😊
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Tell her you will bring them to visit just to get her to leave her home. Not sure what else you can do.

this is so sad.
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Take care of dogs 🐶 yourself & they all can visit. Explain it to facility & reschedule a different pick up date!
good luck & hugs 🤗
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Have someone follow the transport with her dogs so that she sees that they are following her. As she is moved in, have the dogs near or in her room. Then make the excuse that they have to get walked. Then take the dogs to wherever they are being rehomed. This all has to be approved in advance by the facility.

Your Mom has memory loss so no point in hoping she will remember anything (been there, done that with my MIL). If she asks about the dogs after they leave, tell her they need to get vet check-ups/updated vaccinations before they can be approved to come back. Then if she continues to ask about them you can tell her the same story or whatever will keep her calm and satisfied.

I wish you success in helping her and her pets transition in their new homes.
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MargaretMcKen Sep 2023
Geaton, yet again your post says “take the dogs to wherever they are being rehomed”. Every pet lover’s post assumes that pets can and will be ‘rehomed’. However SP196902’s comment is that “millions of healthy animals are killed each year”. Clearly rehoming is not always an option.

This is one topic on which very little help is given to people with a genuine problem, and most posts will make them feel worse.

We run a sheep farm, and I quite agree with SP that it’s wrong to think that “farm animals have no feelings or sentinentcy because they are raised for food”. Sheep may not be too bright, but we certainly treat ours well. That doesn’t stop them being raised for food. Our neigbors raise beef cattle and also breed dogs for sale. They are both businesses.

If you want to adopt a child to be a ‘member of the family’, here at least there are extensive checks before you are approved for adoption. It might be good if the same applied for pet ‘family members’.
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Long story short: We had the same situation with my MIL. She had to be forcibly separated from her dog because of a fall and subsequent rehab and reevaluation. Luckily and surprisingly her elderly dog was able to be rehomed. ....

Longer version: It's unlikely to be very helpful, but line up a foster home for the dogs or a rescue if you are unable to keep them yourself. We had the exact situation with my MIL. One year ago she toured a lovely independent living place but wasn't interested because the "yard is too small" for her 75-pound, 12-year-old Shepherd mix. She also adamantly refused the idea that she needed to move and that she was going to burn her house down. The dog is a sweetie, but she was having incontinence issues and MIL never remembered to give her the bladder pills. MIL was frequently forgetting to feed the dog as well. We think the pup was living on treats, which were usually remembered. The house was being taken over by rats, which the dog didn't chase, because MIL kept the flap off the doggie door because the dog wouldn't use the door if the flap were inserted. In Feb 2023 MIL fell and was on the floor for almost 36 hours. (MIL refused to wear a Life Alert and would frequently not answer the phone and her neighbor traveled a lot. We live 120 miles from her, which takes 3 to 5 hours depending on L.A. traffic.) She was in the hospital for a week and skilled nursing for a month. While she was there we were able to bring in a dog rescuer from her senior community. The rescuer cared for the dog for a week while finding a foster home. We were surprised when the foster home fell in love with her. They adopted her. We had to tell MIL that the dog had not been healthy when she went into fostering and that she couldn't stay by herself nor could she come to the assisted living. (AL was the only option according to the EMTs who rescued her - they could assess her living conditions - and per the doctors who cared for her.) But the foster/rescuer was the linchpin to the whole thing with the dog. We were unable to bring her to our house, in case you're wondering, because we are moving to Washington next year to be close to our son, who wants us to make the move so that he doesn't have to deal with long-distance care issues in the future since he has seen our difficulties with his grandma. MIL flatly refuses to move anyplace that is any colder than So Cal because she "paid her dues" by growing up in Minnesota. So there are stubborn people everywhere you turn in this family. Me too, I guess, because it doesn't make sense to me to move down there.
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Try to arrange home health care whether she lives with you or her home, Had you made arrangements for the dogs to be cared for as she couldn’t just leave them? I wouldn’t have gone either if they were just abandoned. Perhaps you could make arrangements for dogs with shelter director, qualified rescues or friends of your mothers. I’m stage 4 cancer & several other issues but I work, hike, etc. but it’s my pets that encourage me & many of my friends feel the same. Get them cared for 1st then your mother may be more willing to move.
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Assisted living facilities may take her and her dogs if she has somebody to help her care for them.
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Still no response back from the op, beyond their initial post.....
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