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Can someone tell me how much difficulty she will have in the first couple of weeks?
I don't even know what questions to ask until someone tells me about the process. I know she will have a machine that bends her knee.
We have a wheel chair, walker and cane. We have a raised toilet seat. We have a hand held shower. There is seat in the shower. There is enough room for both of us in the shower.
Thanks for your help!!

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The people I know who have had knee replacements are up and around in no time. I think Rehab depends on age. Most of the people I know go to offsite Therapy like Daughters Dad did. As long as you do the therapy and exercises given for home Sister should have no problem. Do not disable her. She needs to do as much as she can by herself. That means fixing herself a sandwich. The more she moves that knee the better.
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NelleHtur Mar 2023
Your note made me laugh.
One of our sisters has a husband who always refused to do his exercises and asked her to do everything for him. I think you're right on - if you're hungry, go check out the fridge and find your own lunch.
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Please find out if her insurance will pay for a BREG Polar Care Cube.
These are beyond amazing for keeping swelling to a minimum & no swelling means less pain so less pain mean your apt to do more PT / ADL and progress faster and be able to rest / sleep better. Less pain also means also less pain meds needed and lets face it, they do not prescribe pain meds like it was done in the past.

The cube is basically a continuous loop ice flow cooling system that wraps around your knee with the ice water bath swirling up from the electric cooler. She will need help putting it on & taking it off at first. You (sissy) will need a separate cooler to store ice in to “feed” the cube periodically. The smaller sq Fiji water bottles fit the BREG perfectly & if you freeze them to use in the cube plus some fresh ice around them you could easily get through the day with just a single refill. Tres facil!

I had a L knee surgery mid Oct 2019 (not replacement, was both sides cartilage cleanup, backside bursa issues) & was back standing 10-14 hr days on a job late Nov. I was very very motivated. That ice cube made beyond huge difference as I used it from day 1 after surgery to keep swelling down and once working I’d lie down & slap it on and around my knee once I got home couple of hours then took it off to do exercises / shower etc and then put it back on overnight, fall asleep with it for a couple of hours then take it off and my knee was normal looking next morning. I did wear a compression sleeve (open toe to upper thigh) for almost two years when working or heavier walking or yard project days. I’m mid 60’s and definitely not a size 6!

Your Sisters replacement surgery might not have quite as much swelling but if her insurance will cover a BREG, get one. They are amazing to have & be able to use for cold therapy.
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Firstof5 Mar 2023
I used this after 2 shoulder surgeries and it was so helpful. I think that's why I didn't need pain killers as long as I expected. Just make sure you have plenty of ice to refill it. I think we only had to refill the ice after about 4 hours. Admittedly I was on painkillers at the time, so I could be wrong. It seemed like they only refilled the ice a couple of times a day.
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My dad lived with us for a few weeks after his knee replacement. He went to PT 3 times a week, used a walker, but really did fine. No one helped with showering or anything in the bathroom, he could do that independently. I made his meals and told him coming to the table was part of his therapy, he enjoyed being told that! Sounds like you’re well set up, far more than anything I did. Dad was in his early 80’s at the time and really did well with the surgery and recovery. Hope you’ll see the same
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golden23 Mar 2023
Thx for sharing that daughterof1930. So glad your dad did so well. I'm expecting that is going to be the case with R. He is very fit.
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My 76 yo relative recovered quickly. Spent overnight in hospital after surgery, then went home. From the start, used crutches to get around. Used an ice machine wrap-thing (that can also be rented) to ice the knee. Needed live-in help that first week, which was the worst week because of 1) the pain, 2) needing help with taking her pain meds on schedule, 3) needing someone to drive her to PT, etc. Weeks 2&3 were much better: so much so, that-while she greatly appreciated the help -she increasingly was looking forward to getting back her privacy and having her house to herself.
No walker, cane, or wheelchair. No one ever showered her, she got into the shower by herself. She had a recliner that was a good comfortable chair to sit in and do the exercises and knee bends, read, or watch tv while the ice machine was on. Her doctor was very happy with her recovery. By the middle of week 3 she was climbing a flight of maybe 8 stairs (albeit slowly) without pain, to visit another friend! By the end of week 3 she could drive by herself.
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NeedHelpWithMom Mar 2023
Island,

This is great news. She sounds like she has a wonderful attitude and is doing well while healing.

My mom worked really hard in PT and OT. She had a different situation. She dealt with strength and balance issues due to her Parkinson’s disease.
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Welcome Nelle and thx for the link ff.

I am watching this thread as R will have a complex knee replacement in a couple of months.

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Here is some info from that same site. https://www.verywellhealth.com/total-knee-replacement-preop-exercises-2696473

You will need - loose-fitting, comfortable clothing and comfortable rubber-soled shoes with a back to leave the hospital in

In preparation for your return home after knee replacement, your surgeon will likely recommend the following:

Ensure you have someone lined up to assist you with personal care (e.g., bathing) and household chores (e.g., laundry and grocery shopping) for at least one week

Even though you will be able to go up and down stairs after surgery, consider making a temporary bedroom on the first floor if applicable (especially if you are worried about falling).

Make pathways within any crowded areas of your home.

Remove any fall hazards within your home, such as throw rugs or electrical cords lying on the floor.

Install handrails on your stairways and in your bathroom.

Rent a shower chair and raised toilet seat.

Purchase a grabber device to reach items on your own, a long-handled shoehorn, and a sock aid (a tool that helps you put socks on easily).

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Help with meals would also be good.

I see you have some of this covered. already and her husband will be there to do some things. Without complications I suspect she will do fine.

Maybe some one else with experience can chip in and suggest when you might best make the trip. I would think with an caregiver 4 hr a day for a week or two and her husband most things, if not all, will be managed.

Good luck!
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NelleHtur Mar 2023
Hi Golden,
I'm actually an Occupational Therapist (although things have certainly changed since I was in school 50 years ago!), so I probably could have written the first part of that article. :)
Buying a house without stairs was probably one of the best decisions we ever made.
I'm more concerned about the first couple of weeks after the surgery. Having a caregiver from an agency costs $30/hour and they only offer 4-hour shifts, and it's not covered by Medicare. That's going to mount up. But I don't want an un-trained caregiver. My sister will fly out to help (for a week) so I just want to know if I should tell her to come right away or after I no longer have a scheduled caregiver.
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I, too, am to have my knees replaced. I’m a fat athlete - awful combination.

Consistent advice from everyone I know who has had it done: PT is critical and do your very best to power through it. Do the recovery work to the best of your ability.

A friend climbed the stairs at St Paul’s in London 6 months later! (fortunately I’ve already checked that off my list)

Sounds like you are well prepared to help your sister. Keep her spirits up and encourage her to move.

One of my friends had a spinal block instead of a general anesthetic when she had her 2nd knee done. Surgeon offered to let her see her metal before he closed her. She looked. Not sure how I’d answer. Assuming I didn’t faint.

Good luck to your sister!
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NelleHtur Mar 2023
PT has already started and I agree that it is probably the most important part of the rehab.
Not sure about being up for seeing metal!
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Nelle,

Are there plans for rehab. Much of the recover depends upon the condition of the patient going in for surgery, their muscles, their weight, their general condition.

If this isn't optimum I would suggest a few weeks of rehab, or at least one. If this can be managed then you could attend some of the therapy sessions with good effect.

Sure wish the best outcome here. I had a friend who had a total knee and sailed through easily, but she was only 55, in excellent condition.
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NelleHtur Mar 2023
The Orthopedic Surgeon doesn't believe in sending his patients post-op to rehab as he feels that too many of them pick up infections there. So I think my sister will be coming home, but I'm going to try to get 2 days in the hospital to have more opportunity to work with PT.
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If you are limited to one week, I think that the first week will be when she needs the most help. She's lucky you can go help her. My mom (in her mid 70s and not in very good physical condition) stayed overnight in the hospital and then went to rehab for about a week until she could do 3 stairs to get into the house and walk enough to get around the house independently with her walker. She needed help with getting her ice for her knee, putting her foot up when in her chair to help with the swelling, PT came to the house 3 times a week, etc. If she is a hard worker and will do her exercises in between PT visits that will help her recover more quickly. If everything goes well she should be able to get to the bathroom independently while still in the hospital.
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I worked as a Secretary for a Visiting Nurse Assoc. We did what Medicare did not pay for. The Nurses were RNs. I would get many calls where the person didn't know what was going to happen after a hospital visit. My answer was "you need to wait for discharge" The doctor determines then what kind of care you will need. I know its kind of last minute but thats when the doctor knows what the patient will need. Rehab, in home or just go to a local PT facility.

With this knee replacement. When the doctor went over the procedure did he not tell your sister what to expect? What type of PT, OT she would receive? How long the doctor felt recovery should take. IMO this should have been discussed at her appt.

Actually, I think your all set. It all will depend on how hard your sister works. You know the saying, no pain no gain.
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I had 2 full knee replacements (one at a time) in 2017. I was 66 at the time. I was placed in a program which provided a 3 ring binder of information about the process, what to expect, and exercises. My husband and I attended a class before the surgery and started doing the exercises 6 weeks before surgery to strengthen the muscles that were important for success. He was my main support in the weeks following each surgery. My 2 sisters also took turns coming over in the mornings to help my dress and fix breakfast. I wouldn't really have needed them, but the company and their beautiful breakfasts were definitely mood lifters.

I found that the first few days were the time when I most needed the heavy duty pain relievers. After that I was able to get by with OTC pain relievers (aspirin is best for me). I did continue to use the opioids for my PT sessions 3 times each week. I think it is most important to do the exercises and PT as recommended. The only thing I REALLY needed after the surgery was a driver to/from PT sessions. However, having people around for part of the day was lots of fun.

I opted to minimize shower use and make generous use of sponge baths and partial showers (I have a seat and hand-held shower attachment.) In that early week just after surgery it is really important to keep the dressings dry and there is more than enough to do keeping the knee elevated and iced to keep the swelling down.

For your sister, a lot depends on her overall health prior to surgery and her willingness to move around. A number of friends and relatives have had this procedure. It seems that those who are more willing to exercise and put up with a certain amount of low level pain in the process of recovering end up with better results. Personal encouragement is probably the most important thing you can do for your sister. Although full recovery takes months, early progress should be quite rapid. With help from my husband and sisters I actually enjoyed the recovery process. The first surgery (April) was a bit scary, but by the time it was time for the second surgery (August) I was really looking forward to all the things I would be able to do again. Those first weeks were something my sisters and I looked forward to as a celebration of the bigger life we would have together when I was no longer limping along dragging those uncooperative legs.

Now, 6 years later, I am still thrilled with my new knees and the ability to walk MILES if I want to, and to bend those knees into a squat when I need to. I think if you talk to your sister about some things she will be able to do with you in a few months you will both be able to see the early challenges as steps to a great future. It worked for me and I hope it works for you as well.
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