This site has been so helpful to me since my mother came to live with us. I think I might question my sanity if I did not hear so many stories like my own. I read here over and over about elderly women in particular who are mean spirited, paranoid, manipulative, selfish & negative. I totally relate as that is what I am witnessing.
The only time my mother seems to be happy is in the rare instance that one of her paranoid predictions actually comes to fruition, or some terrible thing happens to someone. She has a look of total glee at those times. She loves to say "I told you so" and since she is always and I do mean always negative the only thing she can be right about is a negative prediction. Sometimes it is an atmosphere of pure evil around her.
My question is are there any full time caregivers who are caring for a loving sweet appreciative friend or relative? Or by the time an elderly woman reaches this stage are they all as "mean as a snake". Are there any stories where a sweet old lady had to come live with a relative and actually brought joy and happiness?
My mother has always had personality disorders, but now it is like every negative aspect is times 100 and the positive aspects have disappeared. She has done all of the right things physically, healthy diet, exercise, regular checkups, now at age eighty plus she only takes two pills a day for mild hypertension, has few physical ailments, just a mean nasty spirit........
It makes me physically ill to think of getting old and treating those trying to care for me with such ingratitude, or for that matter just being that miserable myself. Right now I have no desire to eat right, exercise and take care of myself, so that I can outlive my mind and hang around to make my family miserable.
Sorry to rant, I'm beginning to sound just like her..... Just wish I could see light at the end of the tunnel. Her Dr. will not listen to me and she will not go to another Dr. and refuses to take anti-depressants or anxiety meds.
I'm thinking of calling in 'sick' tomorrow. I have been doing this for four years, seeing her every other day. I've never failed her, but I'm sick of her complaints. The negativity is awful and life crushing.
1. Let yourself be happy. It seems counterintuitive; but, the happier you are the better it turns out for everybody! Most people think it’s sad that Mama has Alzheimer’s and I decided I had to get over thinking I should agree and commiserate (especially with the websites with all the sad-stories). The best way I found to break free of anger and worry was to get alone for a few minutes and BREATHE (take a deep breath in and a slow exhale) and in that moment notice the feeling of relief and breathe again. Think about the solution you want, why you want it, and focus on the solution.
2. Remove yourself from the room (or the phone) if there is an argument starting. Say, “Excuse me, there’s something I’ve got to do.” And it’s true – the thing you’ve got to do is to stay calm. BIG DISCOVERY: Arguing, complaining, and blaming only spirals the situation downward.
3. Project thoughts of goodness onto them several times a day. Even when you don’t feel like doing it, say, “You’re great.” “You’re sweet.” We know that it is true in the depths of their hearts and saying good things brings those good things to the surface -- you might not think she deserves it, but I won't beat around the bush -- you're doing it for YOUR own good.. After several weeks of doing this, lo and behold, she might even say it back to you! J
I never had a great relationship with Mama until one year ago. I’m sorry to say that I always dwelled on past resentments and for the first two of the three years I lived with her I was miserable and hated living there with her.
During those first two years I kept trying different solutions because I did not want to keep feeling bad. Those steps 1 and 2 were discoveries in the first two years.
Then when I started doing step 3, everything began to alter. At the end of the day when I was saying goodnight, no matter what had transpired during the day, I looked Mama in the eyes, and said, “You’re sweet.” I remember her look of surprise that first night. And I remember having a feeling of relief. Then I started saying it several times a day. Sometimes I would put my hand on her shoulder. Over time I took her hand and gave her a kiss on the cheek. Then she started saying it to me!!
Now Mama and I have a sweet loving relationship that is so remarkable. I still make it a point to get her attention, look into her eyes, and say, "You're so sweet! I love you so much!" It's because of the transformation over the past three years that I can do that with such love in my heart. So I am thankful for the problems I had and for where I am today.
Maybe steps 1-3 can move faster for you by reading this. Maybe they don’t fit your situation at all. We all experience our own epiphanies in our own way. All the best to all of you reading this.
Or maybe she has dementia which sometimes seems to rob elderly people of their happiest memories. My mother can dwell on some pretty depressing thoughts at times and like I said I try and disract her from those thoughts. I don't know if my story helps, but I figured it can't hurt. Hugs to you and know that you are not alone.
I've realized too much of the "industry" is about the money and writing Rx for everything - when it is better managed with diet and exercise. Many elderly do much better in an ALF if you can put them there. Even daycare would let you do more and have a life. Someone mentioned $8,500 a month for memory care unit but wow that is a LOT.
Our place gets $2500 to $3500 or so depending on care needs. The higher end tends to be those with needs like diabetes or dialysis etc transporting them, if they are sick a lot, and so forth. It's like getting your life back, is what my families tell me, and still knowing mom is in a good place with love, good food, and people she can relate to. Smaller places are more like home, not such a culture shock for the elderly people.
I wish you all the best, and am praying for you both. Don't let it get you down, and I mean that in the best way, knowing how hard it is. I have 6 people to be the manager in caring for, shop, come up with activities, meals, recipes, tell the caregivers / train them how to cook a soft boiled egg, lots of things people today don't know about, especially as many are Jamaican or something, and our seniors are mostly American. The pre-diabetic sneaks food sometimes we have to hide the bananas (ate 4 one night recently, non left for breakfast) He is so upset at me that I said No more cheating on diet - gained 12 lbs in 6 weeks.
And there is the lady who doesn't know my name but knows I love her. :-) And I love them all, I rub backs and hug them treat them like family....
But I have no life at all. Just when I'm fixing to take a day off, someone calls in or just doesn't show so I race over there, adopt a caregiver role for the day, get home exhausted and have to catch up on my "other job" that pays my bills at home for the next day or two. Wow, now I'm whining so I better stop but sometimes it's best left to the pros who do this or at least a few days a week.
However, my wife Judy is 68 now and was diagnosed with cortical basal degeneration over 9 years ago. The doctor said it was like a mix between Parkinson's and Alzheimers. She lost the ability to speak about 5 years ago but she will answer yes/no questions by blinking her eyes for a yes answer.
She lost the ability to use her right arm shortly after she was diagnosed. Last year she lost the ability to use her left arm.
Last year I had to admit her to a hospital for a few days. The neurologist she saw at the time said there was no way she was walking the day before she entered the hospital according to the damage the catscan showed on her brain. To prove him wrong, she was walking up to 18,000 paces a day within 3 months after she got out of the hospital.
She knows I won't be able to care for her any longer if she loses the ability to walk and that makes her angry. Last year when she had cataracts removed from one eye I made her sit for several days to make sure she did not fall and damage the eye. I could definitely tell she was mad at me. Finally as I was getting her ready for bed one night I gave her a peck on the cheek and said a few nice words and she broke out into the biggest smile anybody could have ever seen.
Oh yes, when she was diagnosed, the neurologist said 4 - 8 years. As I mentioned when I started, it will be 10 years this coming December. We will also be married 48 years in May.
I certainly intend to keep her home with me as long as I possibly can. Some days I wonder why, but most of the time I don't know what I would do without her.
So, no, not all ill women are mean spirited. I think if I was in the same situation, I would be furious and want to strike out at everything and everybody.
Bless you for taking your responsibility for your aging parent seriously and caringly. You do have a responsibility to yourself, however, that you are neglecting. Easy to say; not so easy to do. You know that there are data that suggest that people do better in assisted-living facilities than they do at home. If reasonably well-run, these places provide a predictable structure to the day with meals and activities that keep people as engaged or involved as possible. It is not great, people don't seem all that happy, but it is better than keeping the person at home.
My only sister for whom I am the only living relative is 82 and in assisted-living. She has Alzheimer's disease. I manage all her affairs. She is 16 years older than I and has always had a great influence over my life... like a second mother. Although she has never been a particularly nice person, she is better behaved now. However, I don't see her all the time and only hear about her nastiness and aggressive behavior that erupts from time to time.
It is costing her $8,300/month in this Alzheimer's Memory Care unit. She will eventually run out of money in about 4 years and need Medicaid. I will cross that bridge....soon.
Sure I would like to inherit the money that is being spent on care that maintains
vital functions but can't enable her to do the Sunday Times crossword puzzle, read the newspaper or the New Yorker, enjoy the ballet or the opera or a Yankee game....the things she always loved to do alone or with me but can't do anymore. It breaks my heart to watch the decline of her life, her resources and, yes, any inheritance.
Get some help. Join a support group. Get a social worker who knows the elder care landscape to help you. It is not easy, but it is better with support. I go to an Alzheimer's support group...I also have a wonderful supportive husband.
Donna, you can't do this alone and maintain a decent quality of life. Good luck to you. Marianne
I agree with the 1st response, please beware of the wear and tear on your spirit.
I am 27 years old and I have 3 children under the age of 5. I offered to take care of my 77 year old grandmother who had been diagnosed with Alzheimer's. I offered to take care of her about 6 months ago because the assisted living facility she was in was over medicating her. Every night I give her 25 mg of a medication because she has "sun-downers syndrome", which made her very difficult to take care of because she was mean, defiant and angry when nighttime rolled around, the assisted living facility had her on 3 TIMES AS MUCH! She has adjusted to the schedule I have my kids on- she is so happy, she is thriving here! When she came here she could barely speak clearly. She would mumble incoherent words and now she speaks in sentences! I have to read into things sometimes but I am so proud of her progress. My youngest daughter is about to be a year old and they have the most amazing bond. My grandmother feel useful when she thinks SHE is finally taking care of someone. It really is a beautiful thing. Every night I tuck Gramma in and she tells me how thankful she is. She has a disease- her memory and her health should be getting worse- not better. She is remembering to wash her hands every time she uses the washroom, remembering the order in which I have her do things when she showers, and asks to help me with house chores all the time. She said I'm so busy and running around to let her help me so I can sit down! How sweet is that...
You asked for good stories. Bet this sounds like a good story.... it's not. My 2 uncles and my father are her sons. 2 sons have to agree on a decision for her to make it happen. My 2 uncles met with a lawyer behind my back and my dad's back. They have arranged to put her in a nursing home. They used the time she has spent with me to hide money so the government can't take all of her money and so they can't continue to pay me for her care. They are keeping the money for themselves instead of continuing to keep her here. I already offered several times to do it for less money (whatever her estate can manage) but they want to keep the money for themselves and put her into a facility as soon as possible!!!! I am doing everything I can to stop this. It is the most cruel thing I have ever witnessed. I am so scared for her. She woke up in the middle of the night, frantic, and said "It just hit me. Bob took me to a place. We were walking through the rooms and he said 'Wouldn't this be a nice place to live?' but I didn't know he was talking about me!" When my father asked him if he took her to a nursing home he denied it and made it like she was acting "goofy." I knew she was telling the truth. I called the home they were considering myself and learned that she hadn't only been on a tour there but she had been evaluated, too!!!! The paperwork was in the process of being completed for a bed that was opening up! I have been so wrapped up in this mess and scared for her that my son has missed school twice. This is sucking the life out of me. She always says she wants to be with family not in a home, left to die. She said to just kill her then.
I wish you the best of luck- we all have our demons, I guess. It just doesn't make sense that we do such a selfless thing for another and it becomes this difficult. Pat yourself on the back, you deserve it.
I am the only daughter also an RN. I have 2 brothers and neither have the ability or desire to care for her. I did not want her to go to assisted living or a nursing home.
She thanks me daily for taking her in. Of course our lives have changed and we are not as free as we used to be. But my mother is a wonderful soul and we overlook her shortcomings ( poor personal habits etc. etc, very stubborn and thinks she can do more than she is able to , opinionated etc.). We have told her when we are unable to care for her if health deteriorates ( such a fracture from a fall etc ) she would have to reside in a nursing home. She fully understands that. So I have mostly positive experiences and no my mom is not mean.
I also have a wonderful supportive husband and my mom adores him.
Don't get me wrong, caring for someone 24/7 is hard work and commitment- but having a pleasant parent does make life easier!
Now the other part of that question - can you be a different kind of person? Even when you get old and don't have all the insight and judgement you have now? Will you trust good people and not be too fearful, fretful, and egocentric to deal with? I have to say for myself, I do not know, but I will try to cultivate the best attitude in myself that I possibly can while I have my wits about me, and stay in the faith. I hope you feel the love and support on here and how it nourishes your spirit.
My upbringing was to never share your problems, to always pretend everything was perfect, and to just reject anyone who wasn't - who was having "issues" of any kind...and forgiveness was just never in the picture. My mom's way was to just cut people off for good - even my beloved cousins, aunts, uncles, grammas - if there was a perceived slight or unfair treatment. She had about 12 people total for her funeral, including family...I've been to my friends' parents' funerals that packed a church full to overflowing, because they were vibrant and part of their community for so many years. We make those decisions that will shape who we are and I do think we can make them better if we put our minds to it - at least I hope so!! I think that deciding to take good care of yourself, both body and spirit, rather than prioritize keeping up appearances and getting sucked into the same negativity as your parent lived in is very, very do-able, though often very, very hard while the negativity is right there all around you every minute of every day. Blessings and strength to you!
Not everyone is awful when they get old. My MIL actually seems to be mellowing. She just concluded a 2 week visit here, and at 90 years old, this was the first time she and my husband didn't argue about something.
My belief is that if we, as neglected or abused adult children, know better and have the compassion to provide care, or at least administer care, then we do it.
We can feel resentment and anger at injustice, but I believe that if we accept the challenge and do "the right thing," our children will see a better example, and we will have no other regrets, except for the one we had about our uncaring parent.
To overcome obstacles with grace is a miracle in itself.
I have been caring for mom for-well, 13 years since dad died. Going on 9 years here in my home with my family. And going on 5 years since she has really gotten ill with emphysema, blood clots, congestive heart, diabetes and dementia. She has gone through the grumps-and we treat much of it with humor in this house which has helped enormously. But-no matter what the persons personality, caregiving takes its toll. My health isn't what it should be, I live in stress every day. It does help that she is sweet-that is one less stress that I have to live with Thank God. But my point is, caregiving is demanding under the best circumstances and when you end up doing all of it yourself-learning what siblings won't help out much if any, and your friends disappear, and altho sweet, mom doesn't like you to leave her for fear of whatever.... it is still hard. Yes, there is hope that you will not be like your mom and be negative. And I hope that for all of us. Have I been blessed to have mom with me? Yes, in some ways. Has she brought joy and happiness? Yes, there have been times and we have made some great memories over the years. But I will admit that it has gone on too long for all of us. That my kids are resentful in some ways. And so am I. It is just hard and a huge undertaking and you never know how long it will go on. And, even with a wonderful personality and sense of humor-it gets old. So, yes, there are positive and appreciative people out here. I love my mom and want to keep her happy and know someday I will miss her. I will NEVER tell anyone how lucky or blessed they are to have their parent, cause I think it just makes the caregiver feel more guilty about the feelings of wanting their freedom etc. Am I lucky and blessed to have mom be a happy go lucky personality? Absolutely. But it is still demanding and hard and lonly... I also have learned that I will not put my kids through this. I will put myself in a home-or make sure it is in the works before I lose my mind. My kids already know we do not want this for them.
So, try and stay positive, try and take care of yourself. Being around negative can make you more negative-so please get people in to care for mom so you can get out-it does make a huge difference in your own emotional well being. I find when I am tired or getting sick-it all REALLY gets to me and brings me down big time. So, get your rest.
Many of our mom's and dad's may not have any control on their emotions-or may be so sad and angry that they have lost so much physically and mentally that they just can't hold it together anymore...and some stay as sweet as they ever were (for now anyway!) Let the people around you know that you love them now. Let them know what you are learning from your mom and apologize now for what you may become and let them know you may have no control over it! Then let it go.
I am sorry you and so many others have to live with this constant negativity.I do wish it was easier for you. Mame
Before I came to live here, my ex and I lived in a retirement community in TX. There was a mix of people and many older widows who delighted in mean gossip. Other than that, most of the elders were fun people who saw their children a few times a year. It was always an occasion when kids and grandkids came to visit. I've wondered if mentally healthy elders tend to choose this type of life. They are with people their own age, so they are no longer just little old ladies. There are a few men their own age around to dance with and maybe to date. It certainly keeps a lady interested in life.
I could be wrong, but I've often thought that a parent who would request too much assistance from an adult child over a long time may have a streak of narcissism -- either that or dementia. We see a lot of it here, because people in this situation need someone to talk to that understand what they're going through. I have the feeling that we are in the minority, that most people out there are doing just fine. They don't need to see counselors or get online to blow off steam. :)
Please don't think you are alone. I know exactly what you are talking about. I often wonder, if people who say, "Oh, you're so blessed to still have your mother" or "Oh, my mother is my best friend" are saying those things out of genuine honesty or just because they think that is the right to say. I don't feel either one of those things are true in my case. I never felt that way about my mother, so it is doubly hard to have in my home 24/7.
I also get up at 4:30 so I can some uninterrupted time to myself before she gets up. I love the quiet mornings. Good luck to you, DonnaCG. I know this is rambling, but this is how I roll these days. Lol.
I was fulltime caregiver for my husband, who died three months ago at age 86. He had dementia 9+ years. My son said the other day, "I'm sure glad Dad kept his personality to the end." And he more or less did. The words most often used in condolence cards where "kind" and "gentle." Oh, he had a period of paranoia. And he was grumpy once in a while but by and large he was the same positive upbeat guy he'd always been.
My sister is now our mother's fulltime caregiver. To give my sister respite and to visit with my mother I have her one weekend a month. This is all new so I can't say any time for sure until Mom settles in to routines and feels more comfortable with her surroundings. She has absolutely no sense of time, and that makes her sound quite demanding. "Jeanne, where is that tea you were bringing?" "I haven't even gotten into the kitchen yet, Mom." LoL. The dementia has also made her more self-centered. I don't think overall she has brought joy and happiness to my sister's house, but she hasn't made their life a misery, either. And my sister reported that she had periods of being her old self for several hours during the last few days. It would be nice if more of that comes through when she is fully settled in.
There is no doubt in my mind the dementia robs a person of many of their personality traits and what it leaves in their place is not an improvement! But some to retain their essential personality. If that was full of negativity and dementia adds its own dark view of things -- Yee-ikes!
I'm not sure I could take your mother even one weekend a month, DonnaCG! My heart goes out to you.