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My sisters say they can get a court order to remove our mom from my home and my care. Can they do this? Mom has some dementia, diabetic and just recently had cataract surgery and got her sight back in one eye..
I suppose if they called APS and neglect or abuse were found, she would be relocated. Other than that, they would need to seek guardianship, I would think.
Do you and your sisters disagree about how much care mom needs? Do they think she should be in a facility ?
They can try, but in a case where siblings are fighting, the Judge usually appoints an independent third party, who gets paid a decent sum of money to play referee. My guess is they are bluffing.
I am one of 7 kids. I'm the middle child. 4 years ago mom fell at my brothers and broke her foot. Because I am disabled and at home full time, she came and stayed with me. After her foot was healed she then chose to stay. My kids and I moved her out of her apartment and moved her in with me. 3 of my siblings want her in a nursing home. They have said it is time to start making choses for her. She has no mental issues, and makes all her decisions for her care here. I worked with hospice for years and due to a car wreck no longer able to work. I take good care of her. As a diabetic I do diet and now have taken over doing blood check and insulin. Recently she had eye surgery and it was 24 hr. care fighting to get her sight back . It worked. I also have people from the Department of Aging in to sit with her so she will have some one here and not panic. My siblings feel she would have a more active life in a nursing home. Mom does not want to go and has made me promise to keep her here. My other 2 siblings agree with what she wants. The others says we have to do what we think best for her. I love and know my mom, they are never here, call once a month, where I am here 24 /7.
Crazy siblings! I call mine twisted sisters 1 and 2. If mom is competent and it sounds as if she is she gets to make her own choices. Does anybody have her Powers of Attorney? If one of the siblings does Mom, again if co petent, can change them any time she wants. If she does not have the documentation that all elders need she should see an elder law attorney immediately to get these done i case something did happen that made a move a necessity.
My guess is siblings are feeling guilty because they feel they do not do enough to help. Do they at all? No better way to get rid of guilt feelings than to get rid of the problem causing it. But then they would have the guilt of moving mom somewhere she does not want to go.
Even if she has dementia, she may still be competent, unless the courts or the doctors say she isn't. In order to get a court order, something has to happen first. You can't just get one based on nothing.
Unless there is an investigation that shows she is neglected or in danger, I would think they are referring to filing with the court for guardianship. She would get notice of that and an opportunity to respond. There has to be some proof. The process varies from state to state. If you really are concerned that they are going to intervene, you might consult with an Attorney who regularly handles Incompetency/Guardianship cases. They could explain in detail what the process is and perhaps answer questions so you will know what to expect if they do try to proceed.
There are outside people who frequent your home, so I would keep their contact info handy. They may be good witnesses of mom's good care or competence.
Has she signed a Durable Power of Attorney and Healthcare POA? If she's still competent, you might discuss that with the attorney as well.
Yes she has signed her health care POA, which is me and my baby sister. Thanks for your answer it has helped me where I'm not expecting someone to come crab her out of the home like my one sister said they would do. Mom is still competent and is not in any danger, well taken care of, and medically in good shape. She is just now starting to use a walker and cane. They just think she will be better in a nursing home, and in a room with my sisters mother in law.
MY siblings do not come around. They usually call once a month to see how she is doing. My baby sister and husband bought her a lift chair 2 weeks ago. Delivered it and visited for 10 minutes and then was gone.
How sweet of them to want to move her and have even picked out the facility and the roommate?! Sounds like my twisteds that placed a deposit on an assisted living unit for mymom and her hubby to share. Mind you, he is completely competent nor is he willing to be my Mom's 24 hour caregiver! Some people have all the nerve!
Does your Mom still want baby sister on the POA? Is she successor should something happen to you? Is there someone else that your mom would rather list second? Sometimes a geriatric care manager will be helpful with these things you are dealing with. And if something happened to you, GCM could also be successor.
It is nice that they did at least get her a lift chair, though; we're dealing with that with hub's uncle; did find one, but left it to son and then it was too late; wish we'd just gone ahead and gotten it
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APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
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Do you and your sisters disagree about how much care mom needs? Do they think she should be in a facility ?
My siblings feel she would have a more active life in a nursing home. Mom does not want to go and has made me promise to keep her here. My other 2 siblings agree with what she wants. The others says we have to do what we think best for her. I love and know my mom, they are never here, call once a month, where I am here 24 /7.
My guess is siblings are feeling guilty because they feel they do not do enough to help. Do they at all? No better way to get rid of guilt feelings than to get rid of the problem causing it. But then they would have the guilt of moving mom somewhere she does not want to go.
Unless there is an investigation that shows she is neglected or in danger, I would think they are referring to filing with the court for guardianship. She would get notice of that and an opportunity to respond. There has to be some proof. The process varies from state to state. If you really are concerned that they are going to intervene, you might consult with an Attorney who regularly handles Incompetency/Guardianship cases. They could explain in detail what the process is and perhaps answer questions so you will know what to expect if they do try to proceed.
There are outside people who frequent your home, so I would keep their contact info handy. They may be good witnesses of mom's good care or competence.
Has she signed a Durable Power of Attorney and Healthcare POA? If she's still competent, you might discuss that with the attorney as well.
How sweet of them to want to move her and have even picked out the facility and the roommate?! Sounds like my twisteds that placed a deposit on an assisted living unit for mymom and her hubby to share. Mind you, he is completely competent nor is he willing to be my Mom's 24 hour caregiver! Some people have all the nerve!