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Medicare will allow her to keep the car "for her use", but kept elsewhere, driven by someone else. There are some ways of disabling the car (loosen one of the battery cables at the BODY side, install a battery turn-off switch if it won't play havoc with the computer (a more sophisticated way is to have a battery cable where the ground has two wires (tiny & large) and have a battery disconnect on the large wire -- thin wire will support enough power flow for computer, but "mysteriously" won't support enough power flow for the starter. Distributor cap is another easy-to-pull item. With impaired judgement people become angry -- like drunks, they are often SURE they are fine to drive and quite pissed about everyone "over-reacting" (but with a side order of fear, because on some level they also often know something isn't quite right)
We took the car to our house. Ma had extra keys hidden at her house and she did not agree with the MD. Better to have it out of sight until she agrees to sell it. Find the title and hide that too.
Disable the car. If it's a newer model new keys can be ordered from a dealer - it's expensive but possible. I know - my mom took it upon herself to try to get new keys but couldn't get the details straight - this was after I found out she had been driving after her licence was suspended - which inturn made all her insurance invalid. Mom knew what she was doing - didn't care. After months of her failing behind the wheel drivers tests (after test after test) she finally conceded - but even then it took me explaining in detail what would happen to her legally and financially if she hurt someone in an accident while driving suspended and uninsured - and was sued.
Thank you for your answers! I do have POA and I've been debating about waiting to sell it until she's been moved into assisted living-however she will need to qualify for Medicaid for that so there's that wrinkle.
It may be simplest to take away the keys. You can also use a rod to lock the steering wheel. If you remove the car I would let the police know so that your mother doesn't report car theft. Removing the car would probably be good, since it will take away the temptation to hop in it and drive away. I hope it sells quickly.
It depends on the law in your state. I would confirm if the insurance is still in place. In most states, it's illegal to operate a vehicle on the road without liability coverage. I don't know if she can keep the insurance since her license was suspended.
Also, do you have Durable POA? I bet DMV will need that for you to handle matters regarding her car. I would check with an ATTORNEY in your state on all of these matters.
PLUS, I would check on whether the car should be sold yet. If she is planning on applying for Medicaid, the profits from the sale of the car could disqualify her from Medicaid, depending on how much it is. In most states, the applicant is allowed to keep one car that is not counted in their assets, but if it's cash, that's not the case. I'd get advice on that if she may need medicaid, but even if she doesn't. I'd check with an attorney before transferring property to make sure you have the authority.
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With impaired judgement people become angry -- like drunks, they are often SURE they are fine to drive and quite pissed about everyone "over-reacting" (but with a side order of fear, because on some level they also often know something isn't quite right)
Also, do you have Durable POA? I bet DMV will need that for you to handle matters regarding her car. I would check with an ATTORNEY in your state on all of these matters.
PLUS, I would check on whether the car should be sold yet. If she is planning on applying for Medicaid, the profits from the sale of the car could disqualify her from Medicaid, depending on how much it is. In most states, the applicant is allowed to keep one car that is not counted in their assets, but if it's cash, that's not the case. I'd get advice on that if she may need medicaid, but even if she doesn't. I'd check with an attorney before transferring property to make sure you have the authority.