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Are you applying for Medicaid? In GA you can not own a second car, age doesn’t matter. An attorney told us we could sell both cars and go buy a brand new one, still under warranty. If you sell a car, it needs to be for fair market value.
I’m guessing your asking this as yours is a married couple situation where 1 is needing LTC Medicaid and the other is staying in their old home as the “community spouse” (CS). My answer is based on that: Yes the rules seem to be that only 1 car is allowed for LTC Medicaid eligibility for an individual or a couple. What might be best is to sell or turn in both vehicles and get a single newer & more dependable car that is within Medicaid limits. What the max value $ amount of car depends on your states Medicaid program as each state sets its management of Medicaid uniquely but within overall federal guidelines. Sometimes leasing may be better if they want a car over state limit, as it’s not an asset as the CS does not own it.
But really you you may want to speak wit an elder law atty BEFORE you ever file the Medicaid application for the medically “at need” spouse. Couples Medicaid where 1 is a CS is not simple. Medicaid does not require the CS to themselves become impoverished, (it’s the NH spouse that has to impoverished usually with a max of 2k or 3k for most states), but how to do this isn’t easy as all assets are viewed as joint but the CS income is not included into the NH spouse eligiblility. But getting CS income spent so that it doesn’t flow over the mo after paid to become an joint asset, could be a complex math problem. Really if it’s likely that the CS will outlive the NH spouse and likely for years or decades, you all are best off meeting with a NAELA or CELA level of elder law attorney AND before ever doing the application.
Also CS can get a waiver to get CSRA or MMNA. These are monthly resource allowances done by states that divert the NH spouse monthly income (like SS) that is required to get paid to the NH as their copay to instead be paid to the CS to enable the CS $ to live in their community. The atty should be able to figure a way to legit show your need for the waiver & at as high a figure as possible if need be.
Really am atty will know the maze that is couples Medicaid planning. Like For couples, Medicaid affixes a snapshot date to which all $, assets, income is affixed on. So if say mortgage needs to be paid off to reduce asset to allowable amount for a CS (tends to be 119k), or cars turned in or insurance beneficiary changes done, or assets shifted to income source for CS, these have to be done and cleared bank account or whatever legal recording before that Medicaid application gets filed. Not a DIY.
By proceeding, I agree that I understand the following disclosures:
I. How We Work in Washington.
Based on your preferences, we provide you with information about one or more of our contracted senior living providers ("Participating Communities") and provide your Senior Living Care Information to Participating Communities. The Participating Communities may contact you directly regarding their services.
APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
II. How We Are Paid.
We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour.
APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
IV. No Obligation or Commitment.
You have no obligation to use or to continue to use our services. Because you pay no fee to us, you will never need to ask for a refund.
V. Complaints.
Please contact our Family Feedback Line at (866) 584-7340 or ConsumerFeedback@aplaceformom.com to report any complaint. Consumers have many avenues to address a dispute with any referral service company, including the right to file a complaint with the Attorney General's office at: Consumer Protection Division, 800 5th Avenue, Ste. 2000, Seattle, 98104 or 800-551-4636.
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APFM does not (and may not) require or even ask consumers seeking senior housing or care services in Washington State to sign waivers of liability for losses of personal property or injury or to sign waivers of any rights established under law.
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I authorize A Place For Mom ("APFM") to collect certain personal and contact detail information, as well as relevant health care information about me or from me about the senior family member or relative I am assisting ("Senior Living Care Information").
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APFM may provide information to me electronically. My electronic signature on agreements and documents has the same effect as if I signed them in ink.
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You consent to APFM's reaching out to you using a phone system than can auto-dial numbers (we miss rotary phones, too!), but this consent is not required to use our service.
My answer is based on that:
Yes the rules seem to be that only 1 car is allowed for LTC Medicaid eligibility for an individual or a couple. What might be best is to sell or turn in both vehicles and get a single newer & more dependable car that is within Medicaid limits. What the max value $ amount of car depends on your states Medicaid program as each state sets its management of Medicaid uniquely but within overall federal guidelines. Sometimes leasing may be better if they want a car over state limit, as it’s not an asset as the CS does not own it.
But really you you may want to speak wit an elder law atty BEFORE you ever file the Medicaid application for the medically “at need” spouse. Couples Medicaid where 1 is a CS is not simple. Medicaid does not require the CS to themselves become impoverished, (it’s the NH spouse that has to impoverished usually with a max of 2k or 3k for most states), but how to do this isn’t easy as all assets are viewed as joint but the CS income is not included into the NH spouse eligiblility. But getting CS income spent so that it doesn’t flow over the mo after paid to become an joint asset, could be a complex math problem. Really if it’s likely that the CS will outlive the NH spouse and likely for years or decades, you all are best off meeting with a NAELA or CELA level of elder law attorney AND before ever doing the application.
Also CS can get a waiver to get CSRA or MMNA. These are monthly resource allowances done by states that divert the NH spouse monthly income (like SS) that is required to get paid to the NH as their copay to instead be paid to the CS to enable the CS $ to live in their community. The atty should be able to figure a way to legit show your need for the waiver & at as high a figure as possible if need be.
Really am atty will know the maze that is couples Medicaid planning. Like For couples, Medicaid affixes a snapshot date to which all $, assets, income is affixed on. So if say mortgage needs to be paid off to reduce asset to allowable amount for a CS (tends to be 119k), or cars turned in or insurance beneficiary changes done, or assets shifted to income source for CS, these have to be done and cleared bank account or whatever legal recording before that Medicaid application gets filed. Not a DIY.