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I would say not in the same league!
A child/teen, you can set healthy rules and boundaries, and you can give out reasonable discipline, Also, if cannot find one for free, if you have the money, you can get a babysitter.

Elderly can go against you because they are bigger, and they will use that. It is not to say it is right, because they should want to make it as less burdensome as possible for their caregiver, and understand the sacrifices their child or younger relative is making. They may be the elder adult, but they not understand that caregivers have higher say, like, an older employee with significantly younger boss. Just be grateful to not be in nursing home or assistant living if caregiver is not abusing you. Finding someone to give you a break to even go to the store is impossible for the average caregiver. You are fortunate if you can hire a sitter for elderly paying them! Hiring a sitter for youth is not nearly as difficult if you can pay them if no one will do it for free.
I cannot really put it in words, but I say, not in the same league, even if you feel similarities. However, kids get to a certain age where, unless special needs, can do more on their own, and you get some time for yourself when they are teens and wanting friends time, or can watch themselves as you nap. Caring for elderly is far more physical and draining than raising more than one youth. The 24/07 on call is far more than 24/07 on call raising youth, with the youth, at least at some point, you get a full night sleep unless they have a special need that might wake you or will wake you. Also, when the young one can do something independently, you can expect them to do so, but if an elderly can do something independently but refuses to, they will use age card or what have you to get out of it.
I hope I am making sense, and not talking in circles!
Bless those who are reading this!
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NeedHelpWithMom Jul 2019
Perfect sense to me!
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With children, you are moving to the goal of healthy, mature, contributing adults.

With older adults, you are supporting their health, independence, and dignity. It looks the same considering that you are using problem-solving techniques and relationship-building skills to achieve healthy lifestyles.

Good for you to realize that you are not a 24/7 nursing facility in 1 person. It takes burn out for many people to realize this truth. Just like it may take several trials to find the "right" babysitter for the kids, it may take several trials to find the right people for mom's and/or dad's support team.

You're on track, but beware that "adults" do not like to be compared to children as their independence and needs change. They are still "adults" even when they need more help.
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NeedHelpWithMom Jul 2019
I know, I would never express these feelings to mom. Just a discussion with other caregivers on the forum.
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The only sense that raising kids and assisting parents has been the same to me is the 24/7/365 responsibility to know the child/parent is being taken care of. With the children while generally agreeable to anything reasonable, I was always the final decision maker. Most of the time with my parents, I was just the person who presented solutions to various issues/problems and had to talk someone into deciding to pick one and actually take an action. Even after I became my father's guardian and definitely made several decisions in his best interest he did not agree with, I continued to _attempt_ to negotiate with a broken brain for mutually agreeable options. Dealing with Dad was kinda like dealing with a teenager... someone who often had no clue and yet was absolutely sure you were always wrong!
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NeedHelpWithMom Jul 2019
True!
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Yes. Mam has tea parties with invisible friends; chops up bananas and fruit to little pieces and drinks through straws - during. She has massive temper tantrums and gets angry when contradicted. She has no impulse control. What more can we say?
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NeedHelpWithMom Jul 2019
Yep! Sort of like a second childhood in an odd sort of way.
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gdaughter,

The greeting card comment is so funny! So many times I have picked up greeting cards and thought, oh my gosh, this sentiment doesn’t fit. Who writes those things? It can take awhile to find the right card for the appropriate situation.

If we on this forum put our heads together to write greeting cards applicable to our situation it would be very interesting, right?
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I am glad that you realize that you cannot do this alone! That is HUGE! You will fail every time if you don't get that needed respite. "A money making business?" Good grief - no- my mother lived in poverty wage all of her 94 years so no, I wouldn't take a penny from her for caregiving.
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NeedHelpWithMom Jul 2019
Llama,

I didn’t mean a money making business for us the children caregivers. My mom doesn’t have money either. I’m speaking about facilities.
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NeedHelp: Okay, but you did say "aging care," which I did provide for my mother and never took any money/pay. Yes, I agree -
facility care is going to eat up money rapidly!
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Llama,

I know, so expensive. I am scared of the expense too. Mom has been in my house since 2005.

That’s why I said it’s big money for the facility. Sad because sometimes there isn’t a choice. Look at what drugs would costs if a person did not have insurance! No one can afford to get sick!
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Do all you can while they are Alive, They cared for you when you were a Child, Growing up and Now it is your Turn for Yes, Like us, A child once and now Again, My friend, They Are by Far....God Bless for Writing, Love you.
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NeedHelpWithMom Jul 2019
Some do become as helpless as babies. It’s very sad. Hard for them and hard for us to watch. It does become exhausting for them and us. It takes a lot of effort for mom to do minor daily things. Heartbreaking.
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One time when my oldest child was a baby she was crying and crying. Being a new mom, I was concerned. She had been fed, diaper changed and so forth. I couldn’t figure it out because she was NOT a fussy baby. I took her to the pediatrician and he examined her closely. She had scratched her eye with her fingernail. He told me that the eye heals quickly and it did.

My mom does file her fingernails.

That isn’t an issue but her toenails is another story. She has developed this fungus thing that we treat and fights me to cut her toenails. I get afraid of ingrown nails. It’s those little things that I wish elderly parents would take more seriously and cooperate a little more with. I have to talk her into letting me do these things for her. She feels like she is a burden and I understand that. Hard to feel dependent on others and feel like they are bothering us.

I tried telling her to think of it as a ‘spa’ treatment. Didn’t work because she never did any pampering on herself like that. I wish she would go in for a pedicure sometimes but she won’t.
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MAYDAY Aug 2019
go with mom to get a pedicure and an actual spa day. If she doesn't, the foot doctor, sorry, lost the medical word for foot doctor _ brains--

the foot doctor may give her a free toe clipping....
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Ever try saying “Because I said so and that’s final!” to your parent?
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NeedHelpWithMom Jul 2019
Oh that’s funny! Actually, I have had to tell mom that. Because just like a small child she will say, “Why?” I only say it when I reach the end of my rope.
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In raising my children I always knew they were progressing and the milestones would be positive - crawling to walking, new words, learning new things and so on. With my mother and mil I recognized the physical, mental and emotional milestones would go in reverse. They did and that was hard for me.
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NeedHelpWithMom Aug 2019
This is so true!
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Maybe if the child was Baby Hughie and his pet was Marmaduke.
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Thanks MayDay,

I have asked her to go to the nail salon for a pedicure. You’re right about the podiatrist, they do it too. My husband’s grandma used to go to the podiatrist for toenail trimming because she couldn’t do it herself anymore. This was years ago before the nail salons popped up all over the place!

Know own what I just thought of though? Some salons have had issues, bad issues with staph infections. That would be bad for an elderly person like my mom to deal with.
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MAYDAY Aug 2019
When I go I tell them to leave the cuticles alone, don't cut them push them or wreck them.Now I have arthritis? or bumps around the cutilcles. MY daugter sees this, and tells me why she does her own....Now I have ridges on my nails... Another reason to go to a place that listens...Im in late 50's and yoga is my next step, I don't think I can it in a position long enough to do a half way decent job on my toes, let a long that I need glasses to read, who know I will probablly snip off half my toe!!
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NeedHelp: Yes, that's why some people opt for Long Term Care policies, some have Medicare Supp, some are lucky enough to use private pay for facility housing or some just have to go on Medicaid.
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NeedHelpWithMom Aug 2019
True.
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Stupid auto correct is crazy on my phone. One time my daughter called me after reading a text and asked if I had been drinking! LOL. She said, “Mom, you don’t really drink but are you drunk?” I can’t understand that text. It was crazy. I was driving and I dictated the message and when I read what it wrote I cracked up! No wonder my daughter thought that I must have been drunk. I never used that feature again. But even just typing my phone screws up.
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My mom told me that she wants one of those mini computers (IPad, tablet) because everyone has one now at her AL. It reminded me of years ago when my stepson was a teenager trying to talk me in to buying him a cell phone, "But everyone has one" he sulked. I'll probably get her one. Have to get dad his own because he will want one if she has one. Lol.
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NeedHelpWithMom Aug 2019
That’s funny! Do you think she will use it? Do you have one she could borrow to try out first?
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