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Wouldn't it be nice if the government could pay us to help with our parents.... but that would mean our income taxes, sales taxes, property taxes, personal property taxes, and what ever taxes would all double to help fund such a program.... [sigh]
Carren, this varies a lot from one state to another, so do check out your local resources. I believe that CA is one of the states where relatives can be paid to care for elders who would otherwise need a care center. Look up California Medicaid Home Care to get contact information.
I live in Minnesota and both a brother and a sister have been paid for providing care for our mother, before her needs finally required a care center. So I have a little different perspective on this than folks who are in states where that has not been possible.
Some limitations to consider: Depending on what kind of job you gave up and how much care your parent qualifies for, you may not come out "even" in this program. It can be very helpful, but it won't necessarily make up for not working.
You must be qualified for the work. My disabled brother was qualified to do homemaking (cleaning and laundry). It wouldn't support him but it was enough to supplement his disability payments and qualify him for an insurance program. He was very good with Mom and put in way may hours than he got paid for, but it did help that he could get some pay.
Mom lived with my sister for a year. Mom was eligible for a certain number of hours of caregiving, and Sis chose to provide those herself. She could also have chosen to have someone sent in that many hours a week. Sis was on-call 24 hours a day and she and her husband both put in MANY unpaid hours. The pay she got was helpful but mostly, she said, it validated that what she was doing had value in society.
Now Mom is in a nursing home, and no family members are getting paid. The earlier payments were MUCH less expensive for the state. Minnesota was a pioneer in doing this and many other states have recognized that it is generally less expensive to help keep an elder in the community, especially with the expansion of Medicaid under the affordable care act.
The notion that children can't/don't get paid for caring for their parents is changing rapidly. Find out what is available in the county where your parents live.
I live in the state of Florida! I started the Medicaid application for my home last year! She lived with me! After she qualified I was able to be paid $10 an hour up to 35 hours a week!!
The only way to really do this in most cases is have the parents pay the adult child.
People suggest the VA if a parent was a vet, well I know in 2013 the parent had to have less than 85K and that included their home, that disqualifies most people, even lower middle class.
OP like me lives in CA. If the parents own their home(and it sounds like they do) forget Medicaid which is called MediCal in CA. And with the 5 year look back, they can't even sign the home over to her, which would be foolish to do anyway.
A lot of us have the same question, but unless you have a parent or other relative to pay you, I'm not aware of any way to get paid. Some folks think that there are government funds to pay them to care for their parents; I think many of us would like to see that happen, but to the best of my knowledge, there's no such program.
These caregiving journeys are done for a variety of reasons: filial obligation, love, sense of duty, and more, but money isn't generally one of the available rewards.
Even though most siblings will not help, I still think it is the right thing to do to gently and unemotionally and honestly tell them what is needed and what you are sacrificing to care for your - and their - parent. I asked one of my brothers who is financially very well off to help pay for extra caregivers when I needed them, and he agreed. Right now he pays for 1/2 but that is a great start.
Carren, sorry your posting hadn't been answered in 5 days, you must have posted during a real busy day and the post got lost in the shuffle.
That’s a very common question asking about being paid. Majority of grown children do not get paid for caring for their parent, unless the parent is financially able to pay from their own pocket. If a parent can afford to pay you, the parent might as well hire a certified trained caregiver allowing you to keep a full-time job.
If you live in the States, see If your parent qualifies for Medicaid, the State might allow a trained Caregiver come in to help for a couple hours. Also check to see if your State is one of those States that has a “Cash and Counseling” program to help you out, it‘s worth looking into. Note that each State has their own rules, regulations, and programs.
Also contact your county agency on aging for programs such as Case Management, Meals on Wheels, Adult Day Care, housing, care referrals, etc,... go to the website link below.... click on your State.... now click on the city/county. https://www.agingcare.com/local/Area-Agency-on-Aging
And please come back to the forums if you have any Caregiving questions, we would be more than happy to share our experiences with you, and give you ideas on what to do.
FF, yeah, we pay enough now to finance political junkets! There was a clip on one of the Canadian stations I listen to while driving about a woman who held an elected position at some level of government. I just don't remember all the details except the exorbitant funds she spent on her junkets. As I recall, there was no salary for her position, so she liberally availed herself of what funds there were to compensate for her service.
I never did figure out what funds she was dipping into.
I still think one of the most bizarre if not egregious instances is the congressman who eventually repaid $40,000 of costs for redecorating his office in the style of Downton Abbey. He's now resigned, but I'm sure that legacy won't quickly be forgotten.
Yes you can have a care agreement written by a lawyer if she has one or one you might have the lawyer would be paid by her. Whatever amount that she can afford that would be fair to you .
By proceeding, I agree that I understand the following disclosures:
I. How We Work in Washington.
Based on your preferences, we provide you with information about one or more of our contracted senior living providers ("Participating Communities") and provide your Senior Living Care Information to Participating Communities. The Participating Communities may contact you directly regarding their services.
APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
II. How We Are Paid.
We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour.
APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
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You have no obligation to use or to continue to use our services. Because you pay no fee to us, you will never need to ask for a refund.
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I live in Minnesota and both a brother and a sister have been paid for providing care for our mother, before her needs finally required a care center. So I have a little different perspective on this than folks who are in states where that has not been possible.
Some limitations to consider: Depending on what kind of job you gave up and how much care your parent qualifies for, you may not come out "even" in this program. It can be very helpful, but it won't necessarily make up for not working.
You must be qualified for the work. My disabled brother was qualified to do homemaking (cleaning and laundry). It wouldn't support him but it was enough to supplement his disability payments and qualify him for an insurance program. He was very good with Mom and put in way may hours than he got paid for, but it did help that he could get some pay.
Mom lived with my sister for a year. Mom was eligible for a certain number of hours of caregiving, and Sis chose to provide those herself. She could also have chosen to have someone sent in that many hours a week. Sis was on-call 24 hours a day and she and her husband both put in MANY unpaid hours. The pay she got was helpful but mostly, she said, it validated that what she was doing had value in society.
Now Mom is in a nursing home, and no family members are getting paid. The earlier payments were MUCH less expensive for the state. Minnesota was a pioneer in doing this and many other states have recognized that it is generally less expensive to help keep an elder in the community, especially with the expansion of Medicaid under the affordable care act.
The notion that children can't/don't get paid for caring for their parents is changing rapidly. Find out what is available in the county where your parents live.
People suggest the VA if a parent was a vet, well I know in 2013 the parent had to have less than 85K and that included their home, that disqualifies most people, even lower middle class.
OP like me lives in CA. If the parents own their home(and it sounds like they do) forget Medicaid which is called MediCal in CA. And with the 5 year look back, they can't even sign the home over to her, which would be foolish to do anyway.
Sorry, the only way is to have them pay you.
These caregiving journeys are done for a variety of reasons: filial obligation, love, sense of duty, and more, but money isn't generally one of the available rewards.
That’s a very common question asking about being paid. Majority of grown children do not get paid for caring for their parent, unless the parent is financially able to pay from their own pocket. If a parent can afford to pay you, the parent might as well hire a certified trained caregiver allowing you to keep a full-time job.
If you live in the States, see If your parent qualifies for Medicaid, the State might allow a trained Caregiver come in to help for a couple hours. Also check to see if your State is one of those States that has a “Cash and Counseling” program to help you out, it‘s worth looking into. Note that each State has their own rules, regulations, and programs.
Also contact your county agency on aging for programs such as Case Management, Meals on Wheels, Adult Day Care, housing, care referrals, etc,... go to the website link below.... click on your State.... now click on the city/county. https://www.agingcare.com/local/Area-Agency-on-Aging
And please come back to the forums if you have any Caregiving questions, we would be more than happy to share our experiences with you, and give you ideas on what to do.
I never did figure out what funds she was dipping into.
I still think one of the most bizarre if not egregious instances is the congressman who eventually repaid $40,000 of costs for redecorating his office in the style of Downton Abbey. He's now resigned, but I'm sure that legacy won't quickly be forgotten.
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