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I have been picking up my dad for Sunday dinner for two years now. Last week was a nightmare. It is so hard to get him into the apartment in that wheelchair. (over the threshold). He is about 200 lbs. I have to pick up the front and my sister pushes from the back just to get him in the apartment. He has Parkinsons so his breathing is very labored. Especially when eating. His nose runs profusely, and he spills a lot. I know he can't help it but his eating habits make us nauseous we can't eat when he is eating. Then he sleeps the for a couple of hours afterwards. He wakes up confused. Mistakes his wheelchair for a walker and tries to walk to the bathroom. I have to reason with him to sit down in the wheelchair. Our bathroom only fits in the bathroom straight in and back straight out. He tries to turn the wheelchair around in the bathroom! Then he can't stand by himself so I have to stand behind him. He leans back really really hard. I prop my feet against the wall to hold all his weight (and him pushing backwards) to make sure he doesn't fall back. Then he forgets where he is and keeps asking where we are going.
Really long story... I don't want to pick him up anymore. It's just too hard. We told him and he had a meltdown, demanding that we take him to our apartment or out to a restaurant. I want to just visit and not take him anywhere. How do I handle this?

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NO NO NO. This is at least a 2 or more person lift. You will hurt your back and no longer be able to help him or yourself. Two person lift is nursing home care with a hoyer lift. You can get a hoyer at home but at that weight it is still 2 persons.
And what is this about demands? That is abusive. Sorry! I am being more reactionary than helpful
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Beatty, those who don't realize on their own how their care effects others, also don't realize how lucky they are to have family who cares. They are self-centered and that gets worse with age. They feel as an elder they are entitled. They don't see they make it harder for those who are trying to make life better for them. But no matter how old we are, life changes and we can't always have it our way. Other people have lives too and priorities.

I walked in on my Mom screeming at my Dad. He had pushed the wrong button. Dad was about 77. He had been disabled for heart for 25yrs. He must have asked Mom for something he could perfectly do and she, 76, asked him "When do I get to be retired" Dad said "never". She went balistic. She had been his Caregiver those 25 yrs. Even before, waited on him hand and foot. I will bet he never apologized.
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Missymiss Jul 13, 2024
JoAnn, that sounds so like my parents' story. My dad had a major stroke that disabled him just a few months after retirement. My mom spent the next 17 years basically as his slave because he wouldn't take "no" for an answer, and she was too meek to stand up for herself. And I have a very strong suspicion which I can't prove that she possibly had a mini stroke or other happening that should have made them move to Assisted Living. My aunt (dad's sister) and I both suspect the same, that he was covering for what was beginning to affect mom. We'll never know, but it made me sad to see what was happening at their house when I visited.
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Thanks everyone for the advise. We did stick to our guns... he isn't thrilled but is accepting it.
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Beatty Jul 12, 2024
While it is natural & understandable to be upset at what we lose.. maybe Dad can re-focus on how lucky he is..? To have family that care, family that will bring a tasty dinner to him. Many don't.
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Is your dad living at his own home or in a nursing home? If at his own home - can you go there & cook Sunday dinner or bring dinner? If in a nursing home then just go visit him on Sunday. But as for coming to your apartment - that would be a hard NO DAD!!! Let him have a melt down. He'll get over it - or not! Take care of YOU first!
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After my last Christmas with my father, I realized we could no longer bring him home as it was too much work. It was impossible to host and be his transportation and hand maiden. He announced he could no longer use the bathroom on his own and I only have a tiny powder room on the first floor. My son, me, my father and his walker had to squeeze in there. My son had to hold him up while I had to do things I don't ever want to think about again. After that day I knew I was done. Luckily Covid hit before the next holiday so I didn't have to tell him of my decision.
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You have my support for a firm "No" to dad, and then change the conversation - distract him. It is not safe for you or him. Likely there is some dementia. We had to change from taking mother out to a meal to bringing treats into her facility. It is a normal progression as people age and decline. He won't like it, understandably, but it is the reality of his situation. (((((hugs)))) I know it isn't easy dealing with an aging parent.
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Things in life change and we have to change with it. For the elderly that is hard. They don't look at their children as having health problems and becoming seniors too. Taking Dad to your apt is no longer doable. Its what it is. If he can't understand that, then oh well.
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They become like children, Thats why i do as much remotely as possible especially daily meds.. I use MyCabinet, its free. www.mycabinet.com/app
Care with a loving firm hand and they will get past their issues
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Just say NO, sorry we cannot do this anymore and then don't. He most likely has dementia and should be placed in a facility.

Whoever has his DPOA needs to make that decision for his and your well-being.
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I so hope your Dad is in a care facility. If not, he should be if Dementia is now present.

No is a one word sentence. You won't do it anymore. Someone is going to get hurt and it won't be you. You don't even sit down to eat dinner with him. So taking it to him would be no different, really. Also, when you say No, your not responsible for the reaction you get.
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No you can't do it anymore. It is not safe for him or you to be doing this. You run the risk of seriously injuring yourself and then where will everyone be.

I hope your father's ordeal is over soon. This is no way to live.
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We were hauling my 185 lb, 5'7" MIL into my home in her wheelchair, up my side yard, and into my house via the deck door (my house is a reverse entry, so has 2 full staircases, and all the "public" living happens on the middle floor). When she was no longer able to use the only accessible bathroom on that floor we had to stop bringing her. The bathroom could barely fit a walker, no less a helper.

Is your Dad on any meds for his anxiety/agitation? He is probably Sundowning when he is calling you.

I agree with others that he probably now has dementia, which means you aren't obligated to do anything he demands since it is not reasonable or considerate. Distract or redirect the conversation. Even tell him a therapeutic fib that his doctor says he cannot safely use anything but an ADA bathroom and residence and must have a qualified aid and you can't go against his doctor's orders. But there won't be any reasoning with him anymore.
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It got too difficult to get my father in law in the house anymore or out to a restaurant , we told him so and brought food to him . We couldn’t eat along with him either . His hygiene was horrible , he had dementia and refused help often . We visited him in assisted living and brought him food .
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Not easy for him, either. These trips are probably the only times he would go out

That being said, sad these have to end. In a way, he probably realizes this too, but won't admit it
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Good advice already given, I’ll only add after you’ve told dad you’re not bringing him out anymore, and what the alternative plan is, don’t keep having the conversation. You’ve answered it, going over it again and again is useless and frustrating for you both, so don’t participate at all in the talk. I wish you peace
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So he has a meltdown…..did you give in when one of your kids had one? Is this any different?
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Your father now likely also suffers from Parkinson's dementia which makes it impossible for him to understand why his demands are so unreasonable. Or that his table manners are so gross, etc. He's lost his empathy and power of using logic and reason now, unfortunately.

You are the person making decisions for dad now. You'll be happy to bring him some homemade food on Sunday at his place, or dine with him in the dining room. But you'll no longer be picking him up to take him to your apartment or to restaurants. It's too hard on your back and you can't handle it anymore, period. If he has meltdowns, he'll live thru them. Trust me on that.

We cannot always accommodate our parents every wish when they're old and infirm, nor should we try to. And please leave guilt out of this. You've done it for 2 years and that's plenty. I had to stop picking my mother up and taking her to my house or to restaurants when she became wheelchair bound with dementia too. It was just too much.

Best of luck to you.
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I was just going to say what @SP said, your going to hurt yourself. Mostly your back.

Your going to have to say No , that's really all there is to it. There is nothing more you can do. I know it's hard, and it's hard for you to. Hard to not have your dad be able to come to your home, and hard to watch him eat.

I get it, every thing is starting to feel like , the last, and you don't want it to be and neither does dad. Your morning those last , and it feels a little like guilt.

Tell him, it's just not safe, your sorry he is aging , and aging just really bites!

Best of luck
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"I don't want to pick him up anymore. It's just too hard. We told him and he had a meltdown, demanding that we take him to our apartment or out to a restaurant. I want to just visit and not take him anywhere. How do I handle this?"

Just keep saying no. No dad we are not able to take you out to dinner or to our apartment anymore, but we would love to have dinner with you at your facility.

He will throw a temper tantrum but just like a child you will have to stand your ground and not do it anymore. You and your sister could really injure yourselves trying to bring his wheel chair up the stairs, not to mention the bathroom incident your described with holding his weight like that.

Back injuries are nothing to sneeze at and could debilitate you for life from just one injury.
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