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He was admitted to a Nursing and rehab facility and medicare has run its course. He has a retired teachers pension and social security and a small amount of savings.
Yes, he can give you money before Medicaid. But for it to count it would have to be 5 years before he applies for Medicaid. The long arm of the law and computers, banks etc. know what you are doing, so to speak.
Your father's funds are for his care. Medicaid takes over when a person has depleted their savings and is considered "destitute" - i.e. less than $2000 in assets in most states. If he "gifts" money to children/friends/etc. it will be included in the 5 year lookback for Medicaid and a transfer penalty will be imposed. Medicaid won't pay for a certain period determined by the lookback period. There are many articles and threads dealing with this topic. If you have a caregiver agreement for his payment to you for services, that may be honored by Medicaid but putting one in at this late date would probably not work. If he has extra money, he would be better served by purchasing a new walker/wheelchair, extra glasses, new hearing aids, etc. Giving his money to family instead of using for his care defeats the idea of Medicaid.
Check out your states Medicaid "spend down" rule but as far as I know & above answers state; using his money for his care is an expense Medicaid will allow and there is the "5 year look back". You also may be able to use his money to pay for an elder care attorney who can assist you with the process of applying for Medicaid; it is complicated!
NO he can't give it away!!! If he does, Medicaid will deny the application until it is all paid back!! Yikes!! My MIL wants to do the same thing and we have to keep saying NO!!!
If your dad is at the point if already bring in a facility and "at need" to stay there, it's just too too late to do any creative with his assets. He is just going to have to spend down savings & any other assets on his care before medicaid will pay.
The Medicaid application will require months of bank statements, his insurance polices, the awards letters from his pension & SS, etc. Moving funds now will cause a transfer penalty issued against your dad which will make him ineligible for medicaid to pay the facility for his stay. The documentation required for the application is pretty detailed. For my mom, it was 3 years & 6 mos of bank statements alone and a letter from her bank as to the disposition of any & all CD, Tbills, money market contacts for 5 years prior as well.
If he does not have a prepaid no cash value funeral & burial policy done, that is a good spend down, as is new hearing aid, new eyeglasses & dental work ( these are minimal or not at all covered by medicaid). Spending on elder lawyer to do a will or a codicil to an old one is also a good spend down. But at this late point, gifting or transferring to family will cause a penalty.
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I. How We Work in Washington.
Based on your preferences, we provide you with information about one or more of our contracted senior living providers ("Participating Communities") and provide your Senior Living Care Information to Participating Communities. The Participating Communities may contact you directly regarding their services.
APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
II. How We Are Paid.
We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour.
APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
IV. No Obligation or Commitment.
You have no obligation to use or to continue to use our services. Because you pay no fee to us, you will never need to ask for a refund.
V. Complaints.
Please contact our Family Feedback Line at (866) 584-7340 or ConsumerFeedback@aplaceformom.com to report any complaint. Consumers have many avenues to address a dispute with any referral service company, including the right to file a complaint with the Attorney General's office at: Consumer Protection Division, 800 5th Avenue, Ste. 2000, Seattle, 98104 or 800-551-4636.
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The Medicaid application will require months of bank statements, his insurance polices, the awards letters from his pension & SS, etc. Moving funds now will cause a transfer penalty issued against your dad which will make him ineligible for medicaid to pay the facility for his stay. The documentation required for the application is pretty detailed. For my mom, it was 3 years & 6 mos of bank statements alone and a letter from her bank as to the disposition of any & all CD, Tbills, money market contacts for 5 years prior as well.
If he does not have a prepaid no cash value funeral & burial policy done, that is a good spend down, as is new hearing aid, new eyeglasses & dental work ( these are minimal or not at all covered by medicaid). Spending on elder lawyer to do a will or a codicil to an old one is also a good spend down. But at this late point, gifting or transferring to family will cause a penalty.