Daily money manager for my parents, any suggestions?
I have POA of both my parents. They are overall competent about most things except spending. It's nothing frivolous like cars, but if my mom thinks she needs THREE pairs of glasses, she will go to her old eye doctor (from when she had money) and buy three pairs of her liking. My dad likes to eat out, and doesn't think about what he's spending. These behaviors are unlikely to change. Both my parents have recently gotten permanently disabled and as a consequence have unsettled debts and only live on SS, and they are used to upper middle class living. Because of their debts, they don't have anything of their life's work to show for it. I'm working to get them additional support, but they spend way more than they make every month. I have hardly any money myself (I'm 21), and I cannot spend the next 20 years paying their bills for them. I'm willing to pay myself a daily money manager or someone to give allowances, watch their bank account, and help them budget their SS income on top of their massive healthcare expenses. I hardly know how to manage my own finances, and I'm terrified of screwing them over unknowingly. This keeps me up at night, and I even had a breakdown yesterday because I'm so scared they will spend themselves onto the streets.
Does anyone know where to find someone in South Dakota? How do you manage your parents' finances? How do you control their spending?
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Don't feel bad about your finances at this point for I don't know any 21 year old who has much money. You need to look at your check book and credit card bill to see where your money is going. Budget for the average of what you spend on utilities, gas, etc. so that it fits within your income. Less important expenses are likely where you are loosing money. It helps in a check book to keep a running balance after each check is written. I keep up with my credit car charges online in light of my budget to keep from using it too much. The good thing about using the average of your utility expenses for the year is that some months you will use more and other months you will loose less. The months that you use less should make up for those you use more if you are budgeting for the average. Anyway, that is what I have found. Make sure to budget for an emergency fund and a retirement fund. Although young people often don't think so, it is important to start early working on retirement money however small for you will be able to increase that amount overtime and keep how you invest your money for retirement by being very diversified. I've never made a whole lot over my 40 years of working but my investments are in very good shape. I wish you the best.
If you haven't done so, get the credit cards and checkbook and limit the cash they have. Others have commented that this is a lot for someone your age to take on. I agree. I had the benefit of a lifetime of managing my own money to work with in taking on my friends' finances. My wife is a conservative spender, too, and I learned from her habits how to look at the value of things. You can learn a lot from this responsibility, but I hope it is not too much with everything else on your plate. I pray for guidance to make the best decisions for my friends and so far, that guidance has come in spades. And that doesn't cost anything. Good luck! I am impressed that you are doing so much already.
While their behaviors are painful, I suggest you have little control over preventing them. I suggest that you consult with a certified elder law attorney to find out your legal options for their problems, given they are relatively young.
Most importantly, you might benefit from working with a therapist or join a group that focuses on problems with aging parents. Don't let societal norms of children's responsibilities for their parents bog you down.
in closing, a money manager can't control their spending. However, it could give you a better picture of their habits.
In closing, you are in a difficult situation, one that you alone can't solve.
Best of luck to you in this difficult situation, I pray that you find very good help and a way to have a Happy fulfilled life while loving and caring for your parents.
As they are both on SSDI push them both to apply for Medicaid. There are also many resources available for low income people including low income housing. It is doubtful if they will ever change their habits so it is essential for them to be prevented from stupidities. this will be a huge full time job and far too much for one person to handle especially at 21. it will just ruin your life.
Start with APS and go from there.
Given the complexities and the risks, and while I hate to stereotype, my first guess is that this is WAY above what would be any kind of reasonable expectation of your administrative skills. Find out what their alternative options are. If you vote with your feet and resign your POA, you will probably find that the state will step in and they will be assigned a court-appointed guardian.
I'm sure you do want to stay involved, and I'm sure you love them very much, and that will remain the case - you won't be barred from contact with them, or anything unthinkable like that. But this is a crazy burden of responsibility: not fair on you, risky for them. Get help!
You sound like such a responsible person, but you are feeling like you are drowning because what you are trying to do is way too much for you. I won’t say it is impossible, but at 21, it is hard to believe that you will manage to pull this off. We had to take over my parents’ finances years ago because of a similar situation and they were about to lose their house, but we were all in our 40’s and had years of experience in making our own financial decisions and budgets.
My sister, who is a CPA, was the obvious choice to be in charge and she did it for years, guiding them through a bankruptcy, and trying to recover money that my father squandered. She became so stressed that she almost had a nervous breakdown and it hurt her marriage, so she passed it on to my older brother. He had similar issues until he took total control and arranged it so they were unable to access their money without his approval. That is the only thing that saved my parents from losing everything, but not before my father took out an equity loan on the house. We have no idea where this money went.
Even with these safeguards, managing someone else’s money and welfare is a huge undertaking, and I have seen him too stressed out over insurance, medical bills, taxes, etc., and that is even with the rest of us helping him with it.
My first thought is that you need more help than the wonderful people on this forum can give. Many of them have a lot more experience than I have with this, and hopefully they can give you more places to turn, but I think you may want to start with Adult Protective Services. Don’t take no for an answer. Is there any other relative to give advice? Call your local APS. You need some actual boots on the ground support in all this. I was very concerned with your description of being crushed by a wall of water. At 21, that would have been my feeling too, if I had had to face what you are trying to do. Please come back to tell us how you are doing.
-Make all income direct deposit.
-Set up expenses (all that can be) as auto bill-pay from same account.
-Cancel all debit, credit and ATM cards.
-Provide them with a pre-paid card for monthly or weekly expenses not covered by auto bill-pay.
---- If you don't live near them, I think you can set up auto bill-pay to pay you directly (into your bank account) thru pay-pal for the cost of the pre-paid card, which you can then mail to them. (Keep very good documentation in case they will need Medicaid.)
-Direct all paper bills and other important mail to your address so you're not 'chasing' down issues/problems.
All of the above is with the understanding that they wouldn't actually try to go to the bank and make withdrawals themselvs.
My biggest fear is I set them loose to only to go live my life but then have to drop everything and come home because I find out they're on the streets or something. I feel like it's a deal with now or later kind of situation and I feel so trapped. Some days I feel like I'm laying on the bottom of the ocean trying to breathe under the weight of miles of water. I'm miserable, and it's affecting my ability to well at work, school, and at home with my boyfriend.
Understand that you are NOT responsible for their bills. Still helping them to conserve and live within their means is a worthwhile endeavor. One idea that has been tossed around is to remove all credit/debit cards from their possession and provide them with a VERY low balance card. If you think they need daily monitoring, I doubt even that would work.