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We had it taken care of couple days ago. Am I supposed to file it with the government? If so, is it Federal (hope not they're closed) or the State or the City?
Hi there, we did ours ourselves. We both signed it, then had it notarized and ours required 2 witnesses. (I'm in Florida). It becomes a legal document (so many people spend money for this, and you don't have to). We made plenty of copies and have used it at 2 banks and all of my mother's Dr's offices. It was accepted by social security and medicare, so I am able to talk with them to handle all of mom's affairs. You could go ahead and file it, if you think there is anyone in your family that may question it. Ours is 7 pages, and the local courthouse here charges 6.00 per page to record a document. So it isn't expensive. There is an article somewhere on here about doing your own DPOA, which it sounds like you already have it. Good Luck with everything!!!
Some states require or allow filing a copy as a public record. My state (Minnesota) does not, and it seems to me that Alaska does not. See this state website: http://courts.alaska.gov/shcpoa.htm
If you are not certain, try contact your state's Aging and Disability Resource Centers.
You are wise to want to be sure you are doing this important step correctly!
My mom and I live in Maine. Many years ago she did a DURABLE POA with me as her designee. She is now 86 and suffers from dementia. Who makes the decision that this POA goes into effect. In other words, who documents that she is no longer capable, mentally or physically.
I have full POA and Medical ( new Maryland MOLST form) that a doctor must sign, this replaces or added to the DNR form ( do not resuscitate) I did not know I had to give a copy to banks etc. I just carry a copy in my purse at all times, along with a copy if the MOLST form, our POA was done by an attorney so I assume it is on record with the state. I am being brave and taking my husband to CA ( flying non stop) for a week to visit family, good thing I checked online as The Medical form from Maryland is not good in Cal. I had to download a POLST form (CA name for the new " healthcare" form. ) hell you need to be a scholar to stay ahead of this curve & this federal government does not make it easy!
I tried to use the POA at my father's bank but the bank also wanted a letter from his Dr stating he was not capable of managing his affairs or something to that effect. I thought the POA was the only document that was needed. What a pain! It's difficult enough!
Unless you are using the POA to transfer real estate (which requires you to record the POA at the local register of deeds office), you typically need to do nothing. If it is signed and notarized, then it IS official, and valid.
the one my Dad drew up many years ago does say I will need a letter from his Dr. in addition to the POA document. But it is my understanding that is all I need. It was all my MIL needed to do my FIL business.
There are two kinds of durable power of attorney forms: (i) effective immediately (no doctor's note needed), and (ii) "springing" power, i.e., only "springs" into being effective upon the incapacity of the person whose POA it is. So, if it is the second type, a note from a physician is typically required to prove that the person whose POA it is is actually disabled mentally (usually defined in the document as unable to make decisions about their property, etc.).
In my state an additional document about my Dad's abilities is not required. The DPOA states that it is his wish that I take care of his financial and medical affairs. Also, filing with any government entity is not required. Those institutions with whom we do business need a copy of the DPOA, and that is all. I have a DNR and a Health Care Directive that were signed by my Dad, back when he understood what they said. I don't think the DNR and Directive are required, but I like having an official statement of my Dad's wishes as a back-up.
I went to an attorney with Mom and paid big bucks for DPOA re: Healthcare and Financial matters. It does not have to be filed anywhere in California BUT THE CRAPPY PART IS THAT A LOT OF BANKS WILL NOT ACCEPT THEM!
I fought with the Bank of America where my parents have banked for over 50 years and they refused to accept it. Funny thing is I was not trying to take money out of the Trust account, I was trying to put money INTO the account.
In California it is hit and miss with all banks as many refuse to accept them and all you can do is sue them. You will make nothing off of it like suing for hardship or anything like that, the bank has to pay for legal costs but how many people want to start a legal suit when you are trying to deal with a sick aging parent.
I wound up having to go to a smaller bank called One West Bank to finally get it accepted. I would like to know how they can get away with this and why something isn't done to all of them for refusing to accept our POA's.
I am in California. My Estate Attny told me I had to have him seen by a neurologist to evaluate him for his competency. Thee total Attny fees would be about $4,000. It would require notifications to any and all relations, and a hearing. I opted out, since I'm already allowed to manage everything.
On the attorney listservs (email notices) to which I subscribe, I frequently hear complaints about banks not accepting valid POAs. Indeed it is a problem. Apparently some banks are worse than others. What attorneys generally recommend is avoiding the banks with the worst policies, but that's easier said than done, after the fact.
By proceeding, I agree that I understand the following disclosures:
I. How We Work in Washington.
Based on your preferences, we provide you with information about one or more of our contracted senior living providers ("Participating Communities") and provide your Senior Living Care Information to Participating Communities. The Participating Communities may contact you directly regarding their services.
APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
II. How We Are Paid.
We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour.
APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
IV. No Obligation or Commitment.
You have no obligation to use or to continue to use our services. Because you pay no fee to us, you will never need to ask for a refund.
V. Complaints.
Please contact our Family Feedback Line at (866) 584-7340 or ConsumerFeedback@aplaceformom.com to report any complaint. Consumers have many avenues to address a dispute with any referral service company, including the right to file a complaint with the Attorney General's office at: Consumer Protection Division, 800 5th Avenue, Ste. 2000, Seattle, 98104 or 800-551-4636.
VI. No Waiver of Your Rights.
APFM does not (and may not) require or even ask consumers seeking senior housing or care services in Washington State to sign waivers of liability for losses of personal property or injury or to sign waivers of any rights established under law.
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I found one of the articles regarding this, and there are others in the same section.
If you are not certain, try contact your state's Aging and Disability Resource Centers.
You are wise to want to be sure you are doing this important step correctly!
I fought with the Bank of America where my parents have banked for over 50 years and they refused to accept it. Funny thing is I was not trying to take money out of the Trust account, I was trying to put money INTO the account.
In California it is hit and miss with all banks as many refuse to accept them and all you can do is sue them. You will make nothing off of it like suing for hardship or anything like that, the bank has to pay for legal costs but how many people want to start a legal suit when you are trying to deal with a sick aging parent.
I wound up having to go to a smaller bank called One West Bank to finally get it accepted. I would like to know how they can get away with this and why something isn't done to all of them for refusing to accept our POA's.
evaluate him for his competency. Thee total Attny fees would be about $4,000.
It would require notifications to any and all relations, and a hearing. I opted out, since I'm already allowed to manage everything.