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I think we need to know a lot more here like who threw your Dad out of what type of hime and is his partner 40 years old or has his partner been with him for 40 years? And why isn't his partner looking after him.....whatever the circumstances YOU DONT HAVE to do the caregiving. get that forced to notion right out of your head - no-one can force this on you so don't let them
Who forced you to care for Dad? How old are you? You have your life to live. Find another place for Dad. How long has he been with you? What are his illnesses? Are you wanting payment? Most family caregivers are not paid. Some receive stipends through Medicaid or Veteran's Association. Is dad a vet? Call the VA or the Area Agency on Aging to identify resources in your area.
I noticed that the original writer Big31313 hasn't been back since writing the original question 5 days ago. He or she might have left the building or is too busy to write back.
We need to know if your father has insurance, Medicare, Medicaid or what? Does he own property? Does he have financial nest egg? Maybe we can give some ideas.
If Dad is not gojng to live with you, do not have his mail forwarded to your home. Get him a P. O. Box-you keeping a key to help him. And a storage unit for his belongings. Any guest can become a squatter, a renter with rights subject to fair housing laws, eviction required.
I am suggesting solutions for the worst case scenario-not to imply that is your father's issues, but it may help others to know this.
Like others mentioned here, we need more information better understanding to what's going on. I would start by finding out a little more about the partner and why your dad left. Like someone mentioned here, it may be that the partner is also pretty old and unable to care for anyone else let alone themselves. I would definitely alert the APS to what happen when you discover what happened. Explain to them that you had your dad show up if that's what happened. If you're not able to take care of him, explain this in your report. If you explain your own situation especially if you can't take him in, this will pressure someone to get the ball rolling very fast. This is a homeless senior, and I'm sure there are agencies out there that would help him.
Someone else mentioned checking to see if your dad has a savings. That would be a very good start toward hiring some help for your dad and getting him into some kind of placement. If he has no money, you may want to see if you can get him some kind of federal benefits like Social Security. If he's getting Social Security then he's most likely eligible for Medicaid or Medicare.
* If your dad has any belongings in this partner's house, definitely go get them back and return them even if it means taking a cop with you. Don't back down until everything belonging to your dad is out of that house.
Freg.Flyer, As it so often happens with new posters-we try to help, are standing by, but they either forget, cannot find their post, do not feel any reciprocal obligation or thanks, or may be embarrassed to have to answer too many more questions. Some are even offended.
We hope the best outcome, and would welcome them to the forum.
But it is okay. Some posters will add their comments in general.
One idea that I have thought of: Get control of any social security funds or SSI income right away by taking Dad down to the Social Security Office. There may be a rep. payee (the partner?) and these funds may go to an account that Dad is not aware of, or remembers. Or their monies may have been co-mingled and in a mess.
Be sure, as a condition for helping Dad, that he assigns you as rep-payee to receive and distribute his money-age 87 is not too early if he cannot take care of himself. Go right away-with any retirement income-it can be limited and you don't want to be forced to also support him financially.
Your Dad can hire help from caregiving Agencies. I had to do that for my own Dad who was also somewhat mobile but needed help around the house, like someone getting his meals, doing his laundry, light housekeeping.
Could be the partner is also pretty old and just worn out. I'd investigate that, you have some 85 yo woman saddled with a FT caregiving project---not to sound callous, but that's what it sounds like. She's (or he, I don't know) is probably not capable of the care anymore.
You don't seem terribly involved (no judgment here, just an observation) maybe it's time to step up and help out. If the relationship is past saving, then find help for your dad in your home. He has to have some money, and Medicare does pay for some in-home care. Does he NEED 24/7, or could you get by with a 3 times a week caregiver that's not you? Too many unknowns for us to jump in and make many good suggestions.
jfishe- not to be mean...but when I read your post it makes me cringe. No one asks to be conceived and born. The decision is made for them by one or both parents. Being that the parents made this choice and societal law - a parent is then obligated to care for their child for their first 18 years. There is no law or rule that this same child is therefore obligated to do this "service" for their aging parent. Sure - it would be great if every adult child wanted to, was finanically, physically and mentally able to but not everyone can - and they should not be made to feel less of a person for making this decision.
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Based on your preferences, we provide you with information about one or more of our contracted senior living providers ("Participating Communities") and provide your Senior Living Care Information to Participating Communities. The Participating Communities may contact you directly regarding their services.
APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
II. How We Are Paid.
We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour.
APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
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Does he own property? Does he have financial nest egg?
Maybe we can give some ideas.
I am suggesting solutions for the worst case scenario-not to imply that is your father's issues, but it may help others to know this.
Someone else mentioned checking to see if your dad has a savings. That would be a very good start toward hiring some help for your dad and getting him into some kind of placement. If he has no money, you may want to see if you can get him some kind of federal benefits like Social Security. If he's getting Social Security then he's most likely eligible for Medicaid or Medicare.
* If your dad has any belongings in this partner's house, definitely go get them back and return them even if it means taking a cop with you. Don't back down until everything belonging to your dad is out of that house.
As it so often happens with new posters-we try to help, are standing by, but they either forget, cannot find their post, do not feel any reciprocal obligation or thanks, or may be embarrassed to have to answer too many more questions.
Some are even offended.
We hope the best outcome, and would welcome them to the forum.
But it is okay. Some posters will add their comments in general.
One idea that I have thought of: Get control of any social security funds or SSI income right away by taking Dad down to the Social Security Office. There may be a rep. payee (the partner?) and these funds may go to an account that Dad is not aware of, or remembers. Or their monies may have been co-mingled and in a mess.
Be sure, as a condition for helping Dad, that he assigns you as rep-payee to receive and distribute his money-age 87 is not too early if he cannot take care of himself. Go right away-with any retirement income-it can be limited and you don't want to be forced to also support him financially.
You don't seem terribly involved (no judgment here, just an observation) maybe it's time to step up and help out. If the relationship is past saving, then find help for your dad in your home. He has to have some money, and Medicare does pay for some in-home care. Does he NEED 24/7, or could you get by with a 3 times a week caregiver that's not you? Too many unknowns for us to jump in and make many good suggestions.
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