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I think your friend is trying to do you a favor and point out that there are other options if it is too much for you to deal with. If you were just venting then you can tell your friend that. Why does it bother you that your friend pointed out the obvious?
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I probably come off as a scolder too.. 🙄 when I start throwing suggestions at people who are merely venting.

When I hear the same complaint over & over I do have empathy. But I wish a light bulb to go on for them.. that they can make changes & lighten their burden.
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I'd wager your friend was telling you in the nicest way possible that she's heard you one too many times as you vent/whine/complain without doing anything to fix the problem.

If you merely want to vent, then do it in a support group, because otherwise you're adding your worries to your friend's own burdens.

The goal of getting together should be to bring each other up, not to bring someone down.
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Ignore "friends" like that.
But...
When you get together with friends and if someone asks "how are YOU doing" simply say "I am doing alright" The reason I say this is people really don't care how you are doing, it is just a greeting.
If they ask "how is your mom doing" say something like "she is holding her own" or "she is resting comfortably" again people are using this as an opening to a conversation.
Now a close friend that you can talk to you might do something like this..."Betty, I am going to vent a bit here, I do not expect you to come up with a solution or comment, I just need to talk" then vent away. If "Betty" says any of your above mentioned comments then you know you can't vent to "Betty".
If someone just start in on you simply say "I am sorry but I can not listen to this" and walk away.

Is there a Support Group that you can join. That is typically a safe place to vent.

And (because it is me responding) is mom on Hospice? You will get all sorts of support from Hospice people. The Nurse that comes each week, the CNA's that come 2 to 3 times a week, the Social Worker, the Chaplain they are all there to support you.
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Actually, friends get tired of hearing the same perils over and over again when there usually is something that can be done about it.

You are not sharing fun things like where you are traveling to, how about the new restaurant you dined out at or your platies class? Fun stuff, not always about your mother and why you are stuck, or you perceive yourself to be.

11 years is a long time to be caring for someone in your home, you have no life you are living vicariously through her.

What happens when your mother dies? What is your plan? Sounds like you don't work so how do you plan on supporting yourself?

I would rethink this entire matter, don't forget, most likely someday you will be old too.
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onlyoneoftwelve Oct 2023
Im actually retired military so I have it all figured out. Thank you.
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You probably won’t want to hear this but , I think the bigger issue is that you need to have help taking care of Mom . Perhaps it’s time to place Mom in memory care . It is near impossible to live with someone with severe dementia .

Sounds like you need respite before you end up in a hospital bed and your mother ends up in memory care anyway.
Please take care of yourself , you matter too .

During caregiving , I learned that some friends don’t do well with listening to venting about caregiving. We all have our strengths and weaknesses. Learn which friends you gain comfort from .
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Dupedwife Oct 2023
I totally agree with you that the OP’s mother needs to be placed in memory care. It’s clear that the OP is venting to her friend because she is frustrated with having to take care of her mother by herself. Being a caregiver to someone with dementia is a very difficult job and the OP alone caring for her mother calls for a lot of strength and stamina.
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I like venting, I have some wonderful friends who probably scolded me as well, (only few are allowed to do so),I criticize them, we laugh or argue, but I know they will be here for me.
I love my friends, I have friends aging 30-80+, so everybody has different opinion. I value that theirs views are different.
Take what is of value to you and how she perhaps see you burning out and is having your best interest in mind.
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I can only guess that your friend did tell you that you chose this, because she/he was being honest with you and YOU being the burned out caregiver that you are, took it as a negative and as a "scolding."
Why do you feel that you must "see this to the end even as hard as it is" when it's YOUR physical and mental health that is being jeopardized here?
I mean where is it written that a child has to kill themselves taking care of an elderly parent? No where that I know of.
And if you're not careful you will end up being in the 40% of caregivers that die before the one they're caring for with dementia, from stress related issues. Do you honestly believe that your mother(if she were in her right mind)would want that? Of course she wouldn't.
So perhaps it's time to rethink your current situation, as it honestly doesn't seem to be working for you anymore. And who can blame you? You've put in your time, so now it's time to let the professionals take over so you can get back to just being your mothers child and advocate, and not her burned out caregiver.
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onlyoneoftwelve Oct 2023
Ha! The support group social worker said its 60% of caregivers who die before the recipient. Thanks for the mental support!!!
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It doesn't sound like she's scolding you. No doubt she's a good friend who's stood by you for all this time, listening to you vent, and watching your life be consumed by caregiving. Perhaps it's frustrating for her, as a person who cares for you.
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onlyoneoftwelve Oct 2023
Oh shes not a good friend. Just frustrated with her only child who has completely cut her out of his life.
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Maybe you have vented a little too much to this friend. Has this friend previously told you there are options? People who have never cared for someone just have no idea. And after a while, they just don't want to hear it anymore. You have chose it and everything that goes with it. I give you a lot of credit, 11 yrs is a long time. Me, 20 months was long enough. I placed my Mom in an Al and I think she was happy there. She had socialization, freedom to walk down a hall that started at the Common area and stopped at the Common area.

Its OK to vent, we all do it. Vent all u want here warning us thats what your doing so u don't get negative feed back.. But you need to realize that your friends lives are much different than yours. You really have nothing in common. In their minds you have options. Place Mom, hire aids, ect. For you...you want to care for her till the end. You just want to blow off some steam every so often. Seems friends are not those people who want to hear it.

So vent to us all u want. We have been there.
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Honestly, once someone has dementia (especially severe dementia) they really need to be cared for by professionals, not family members.

I am not going to scold you, your life is your own, but seriously, start looking into a memory care NH. It is obvious by your post that you are overwhelmed.
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onlyoneoftwelve Oct 2023
Nope. Disagree. I am a nurse practitioner so I am a professional.
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I get it that we sometime are overwhelmed and need to vent but I get the feeling that your friend might have heard it all before too many times, and no doubt any advice they have given has been discarded as impractical or just something you aren't willing to do. If you value your friends figure out a way to use them as respite and not as dumping grounds because you may not be the only one feeling frustrated at the end of these conversations.
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On the flip side of that I have people ask me why I don’t “just” have my mother move in with me. As if that would magically solve the problem of caregiving. One guy casually said his 90 something mom is going to move in with his brother and SIL so they can “preserve her assets”. I asked if his brother has any idea of what caregiving entails, or whether he has considered that mom might get progressively worse. It’s been said here a hundred times. You don’t have a clue until you’ve done it.
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lealonnie1 Oct 2023
Preserve the assets.....except by the time the assets are available, they will either be dead from the stress of caregiving or too sick to spend the $$$$ on anything but medical costs. Sad but true.
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Before I got my mother into care, I vented a lot to two cousins and one friend. All three graciously tolerated it, for which I am eternally grateful.

My mother is 98 and has been in care for 2 years. I simply could not cope any longer. I am so relieved to have my life back. She is very well looked after.

I suspect caregiving snuck up on you, as it did me. One wouldn’t call the fire dept to blow out a candle, but one day you realize your entire house is on fire. You are not obliged nor expected to handle it all yourself.

Perhaps you should carry a shiny bauble to drop in front of people that chastise you. As they bend over to pick it up, you’ll find it easier to insert their opinion where it belongs.
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SnoopyLove Oct 2023
"I suspect caregiving snuck up on you, as it did me. One wouldn’t call the fire dept to blow out a candle, but one day you realize your entire house is on fire."

So true. I found the 24/7 care of a NON-demented elder, and shared with a great sibling, completely overwhelming by the time it was over (6 years). I admire the OP's fortitude, but can't comprehend how she's doing it.
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You posted a similar question recently and received a bunch of comments:

https://www.agingcare.com/questions/do-i-have-any-real-friends-483510.htm?orderby=recent

In reality, you DID choose to care for your mother at home and to quit your job in order to do so. How are you making ends meet? How are you planning to survive your own senior years, earning less social security by quitting? Not to mention the mental and physical toll it's taking on you to care for a severely dementia ridden elder 24/7.

A support group is the place to vent, not to friends who won't sympathize with your choices necessarily.

Life is hard for everyone. God doesn't inflict disease upon us, I don't believe, but allows us to live with free choice which oftentimes brings ON disease. Which is not to say it's your mom's fault she has Alzheimer's. Nobody really knows WHY AD occurs. Or why certain cancers appear. Or why children die at 3 years old. It's just life on life's terms.

Tell your friends you've chosen to care for your mom at home, yes, but it's not always easy and you're simply venting. Then change the subject, that's my suggestion. People want to talk about upbeat things in general.
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I am uncertain why, with all you have on your plate, you care a great deal about the opinion of others who haven't the SLIGHTEST clue what they are talking about (having not "been there"). But here are a few responses:

1. "Yes. I chose this. And I intend to see it through. But I just need a good vent once in a while. Thanks so much for listening and being kind."

2. "Wow. I had no idea you were such an A--. Now that I know I will refrain from discussing any of this with you."

You will find that these responses you mention are common common over time.
Many people think it is foolish to sacrifice your own life for the life of your parents. I am one of them. I think that obligation is paid forward. A parent is obligated to his child until that child reaches maturity. The child is responsible for his OWN children brought into this world.

As YOU vent your frustration to others, they will vent their OWN frustrations with you.
So, looked at one way you are BOTH merely venting frustration.

We all make our own choices, and indeed you did make yours and you continue to make your choice on a daily basis.
That doesn't mean our choices are always easy.
It doesn't mean we don't need a good vent now and then.

If you are able to find a caregivers group either to attend in person, or on Facebook, which is loaded with them, you will find people of like minds, and you can share your frustrations without a whole lot of judgements platitudes from those who haven't been there and can't identify with you.

I sure do wish you the best.
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onlyoneoftwelve Oct 2023
Thank you... loved your reply ideas!!
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Only, good to see you.

I know that you've been taking care of your mom with dementia for a long time. She's now 90, yes?

We had a poster whose mom died recently at 106. My best friend's mom died recently at 102.

Just because you STARTED to care for her doesn't mean that you have to continue caring for her if it's destroyed your life, health and your ability to support yourself.

I think it may be time to get mom other accommodations.
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