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I am considering hiring a caregiver outside of an agency as agencies charge a very high rate. Is it normal to require that the potential caregiver have insurance?
I encountered this situation earlier this year and was advised by our insurance broker this way: if the independent caregiver is hired, the insurance company wanted copies of the person's state license and proof of self-insurance, otherwise, my mother would have to be responsible for ANYTHING that happened to the caregiver when she was on-duty and/or on the premises of the condo building coming/going to care for my mother. Thus, we hired the caregiver through a very reliable agency whose personnel were covered by the agency's insurance.
We had our caregivers sign a form stating that they are independent contractors, will pay their own taxes and have their own insurance. If they dont, thats up to them but it covers us. You can call your own homeowners insurance also. I found agency caregivers to not be as good as private ones, and they are less money. 3 I dodged later , from an agency, were sued for stealing. I installed cameras and went thru many to find the perfect one. good luck
If your check with your local Area Agency on Aging, they can direct you to organizations that may be able to take care of insurances and payroll for you. I am thinking specifically of Public Partnerships that has a program in your state. But there may be others as well. I am familiar with Pubic Partnership's program In Pennsylvania. Illinois may be different. Here is the contact information for Public Partnerships taken from their website. Home-Based Support Services (HBSS) Participant-Directed Service Option 1-888-866-0582 I wish you and your mother well.
When I went to the Center on Aging in our town they gave us a list of independent respite caregivers who had a background check done by the state but could be hired outside of the agency for $10/hour rather than the $20/hour through an agency. I don't know if they have insurance. What type of insurance are you speaking of?
I can also relate to your comment Elliebabe - my mom at 90 years of age and her friends are way too trusting of the "nice" caregivers. They all share contacts for service personnel and now caregivers. As mother tells me, "Honey, if Evie S___ uses her/him, then I just know they have to be fine." and this is what the entire dinner group tells me if I dare to gently bring up the subject. Even mentioned the insurance issue and justified it by saying I had indeed asked a caregiver for her license and insurance paperwork. The caregiver assured me she had it and would get it to me. I got tired of waiting after a week of promises and excuses and it gave me a solid reason to let her go. But I got quickly scolded like a child -I am 61 :) - by the very people who had always taught us to be careful and not take risks just like what they were doing. Bottom line: I am exceedingly concerned about the seniors/elderly who are and will be "taken" by unscrupulous "caregivers"...and always tell friends and clients to do their homework and check out backgrounds no matter what! BTW, that same "Evie" friend my mother referenced above, gave mom a referral of a TV repair man - long story short: she got scammed out of over $500 CASH and had her 2 year old HD TV "replaced because it couldn't be fixed" with a "brand new one" for just $300! Turned out the TV was a refurbished TV worth $169 new at Walmart. And this guy actually "borrowed" the Angie's List logo for his website...they went after him as did the local sheriff's department when I reported him. But my mom still thought she should call him in the future for repairs cause "Evie still uses him." (Note: Dr. says mild cognitive decline - dementia - early Alzheimers but NOT incapacitated for decision-making.) Fun fun fun. :)
I am PRIVATE PCT, CNA i do have all requirements to come into the home- insurance is a necessity and all private care licensed should have this its for the client not the caregiver..
I know caregivers that are very good, most have there CNA certificate, none I know that work on their own have insurance. If you want insurance you are best off with an agency, but you will pay more.
Consider the rate independents make $10 to $12 an hour in Miami, last time I looked was about a year ago. Hard to afford insurance on that
The key is to find one that is recommended and that you and mostly the patient bond with.
Individual insurance like liability would probably be too expensive for an independent to afford. But they could get bonded, that would be lots cheaper.
What is your concern about the insurance?
You should contact your homeowners insurance agent to see how your policy does or doesn't cover if a care-giver gets hurt or injured when on your property.
Reverseroles- you may want to check with the IRS as to the definition of who can be paid as an independent contractor and who is an employee. After looking into it, I decided that the caregivers I hire are employees and I pay them following all the rules for household employers, withholding taxes, etc. I also cover them with workman's comp insurance that I get from my agent. I have found this to be the best way to hire and retain caregivers for my loved ones.
You are putting your loved one in jeopardy if you hire someone who has not passed a background check, has a bond, and many references. Your money, your risk.
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I. How We Work in Washington.
Based on your preferences, we provide you with information about one or more of our contracted senior living providers ("Participating Communities") and provide your Senior Living Care Information to Participating Communities. The Participating Communities may contact you directly regarding their services.
APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
II. How We Are Paid.
We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour.
APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
IV. No Obligation or Commitment.
You have no obligation to use or to continue to use our services. Because you pay no fee to us, you will never need to ask for a refund.
V. Complaints.
Please contact our Family Feedback Line at (866) 584-7340 or ConsumerFeedback@aplaceformom.com to report any complaint. Consumers have many avenues to address a dispute with any referral service company, including the right to file a complaint with the Attorney General's office at: Consumer Protection Division, 800 5th Avenue, Ste. 2000, Seattle, 98104 or 800-551-4636.
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APFM does not (and may not) require or even ask consumers seeking senior housing or care services in Washington State to sign waivers of liability for losses of personal property or injury or to sign waivers of any rights established under law.
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Here is the contact information for Public Partnerships taken from their website.
Home-Based Support Services (HBSS) Participant-Directed Service Option
1-888-866-0582
I wish you and your mother well.
I don't know if they have insurance. What type of insurance are you speaking of?
Consider the rate independents make $10 to $12 an hour in Miami, last time I looked was about a year ago. Hard to afford insurance on that
The key is to find one that is recommended and that you and mostly the patient bond with.
Good luck
What is your concern about the insurance?
You should contact your homeowners insurance agent to see how your policy does or doesn't cover if a care-giver gets hurt or injured when on your property.
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