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I have been taking care of my elderly mother that is legally blind and has dementia and would like to find some financial assistance for myself for my duties on caring for her..
If you have no way to make a living there is nothing wrong with mom paying you for care. The government even allows it. VA benefits can be used to pay family caregivers and some medicaid waiver programs can be used as well. If mom would need to paid a stranger I am sure she would rather pay you. If you do work for mom make sure you have a written care contract, you will need that for medicaid. If you check my profile you will find a link to a blog post I did on this very subject. Need help let me know. Ruth Anne
Everyone is in a different situation -- some "seniors" needing care are only 60 with early dementia, and some caregivers are grandkids barely into a career (if any). My moral upbringing taught me to honor my father & mother (that my days may be long upon the face of the Earth--the first commandment with a promise...). But I do not interpret this to mean that I sacrifice my own life, my family and my own future "retirement" (if any!!!!) and quit my career to take care of parents. I don't assume to tell anyone what they should do with their own lives --and I would also expect that others would not assume to tell me what to do with my own life and that extends to having taxes to pay for rapidly increasing Medicaid, Medicare, and other government programs which pay costs that families shift onto taxpayers, because they can't--or increasingly, won't, pay for elder care. I know many people see government as the big sugar daddy who offers free this/that, and they have learned thru several generations of handouts, the "way" to qualify for government subsidies (which are funded by taxpayers). Let me be very clear, there are many many people who truly cannot pay their own way, and these people will always be part of our society. But there shouldn't be so many people expecting handouts -- this is not sustainable, at all and we as a country have to waken up, see the insanity of encouraging more handouts. We have to get people saving more for their own future needs, not living beyond their needs, and realize most of the world doesn't have such a high standard of living. There is no guarantee of anything in life, why would anyone assume that the US government is going to guarantee whatever might be nice....like paying all family caregivers a living wage? Stop and do the Math on that....it is not sustainable. There are not enough tax dollars to go around as it is (17 trillion in debt already). It's a tough situation for everyone (the top 1% is not reading this website, I'm sure).
What Ruth mentions bears repeating--very extremely important that any parent paying their relative (or anyone) to provide caregiving, MUST have a written contract, AND PAY TAXES such as Social Security/ Medicare tax, unemployment, and provide extra insurance in case caregiver becomes injured on the job. If you neglect to do any of these, it hurts the senior (and also caregiver) as you will disqualify yourself for Medicaid, SSI, VA, and also the IRS will impose fines & penalties and I suppose also your local government could have some laws you're breaking. Also there must be written records of daily work, and written records of payments (no cash pay). A caregiver is an employee, usually, and the senior is their employer, so you have to follow all the rules & regulations. Very casual working hours may qualify as a self-employed situation but even then you have to have a contract and provide a 1099 (miscellaneous income) every year to the IRS. You have to do these things even if you're only being paid room & board, or other barter, because that has a value you wouldn't be receiving if you didn't do the work (and if it were a gift, technically if over $14,000 that is taxable too).
That’s a very common question asking about being paid. Majority of grown children do not get paid for caring for their parent, unless the parent is financially able to pay from their own pocket. If a parent can afford to pay you, the parent might as well hire a certified trained caregiver allowing you to keep a full-time job.
If you live in the States, see If your parent qualifies for Medicaid, the State might allow a trained Caregiver come in to help for a couple hours. Also check to see if your State is one of those States that has a “Cash and Counseling” program to help you out, it‘s worth looking into. Note that each State has their own rules, regulations, and programs.
Also contact your county agency on aging for programs such as Case Management, Meals on Wheels, Adult Day Care, housing, care referrals, etc,... go to the website link below.... click on your State.... now click on the city/county. https://www.agingcare.com/local/Area-Agency-on-Aging
And please come back to the forums if you have any Caregiving questions, we would be more than happy to share our experiences with you, and give you ideas on what to do.
I didn't have much luck finding anything in my area of CA for either financial compensation or assistance through the council on Aging. There are so many people in this situation right now; resources are pulled thin. Hopefully it's different in CO. My mom wasn't on Medicaid, so I lived in her home and took care of her while she paid household expenses and paid me a small bit. It was a way of compensating me (no rent). And it was a way to 'spend down' in case we decided to go the Medicaid route.
If you are looking to cut expenses, I suggest that you contact your water, gas/electric & garbage providers and ask about any programs they may have for seniors on fixed incomes and/or low-income households.
If you're looking for a bit of a break, you can ask her doctor for a Physician's Order (covered under Medicare for home bound patients) to get some Home Health help with bathing, etc. I think some tasks are a little harder on men taking care of moms. Good luck - God bless and stay in touch.
I've been taking care of my mom with dementia who is kegally blind, incontinent, cannot talk or walk. Other than the a&a veterans check of 1,ooo a month, i never got a thing, even quit my job. Now she got a prop tax bill of 5k which takes half of that. Sick world! Mom does qualify for medicaid but i wont out her in a nh anyway.
Malloryg8r, thanks for adding in the extra info. I was getting ready to go to moms so i didnt have time to spell it all out, its good to be well informed! I just couldn't leave with the last comment being its wrong in so many ways. I dont understand why people are so offended at the idea. Not everyone is wealthy and can afford not to work to care for their loved ones. It surely doesnt mean we love them any less. Anyway thanks again. If you are thinking of doing the pay for care, care website makes it very easy with their nanny pay system. Worth checking out.
I believe the vast majority of caregivers to parents were still employed when they decided to take full-time care of their parent(s).
Here are some things to think about if one is trying to decide whether to quit work to care for an aging parent.... on average if a working person quits work he/she will lose, over the years, between $285,000 and $325,000 which includes not only loss of salary, it also includes the net worth loss of the health insurance; loss of money being put into social security/ Medicare; loss of other benefits such as matching 401(k); profit sharing; etc. [source: in part Reuters 5/30/12]
That's a lot of money to lose.... when we ourselves are our parents age, we need to have the money saved for our own care.... otherwise, the circle keeps going around with the grown child quitting their job to take care of their parent(s).
Llamalover47, months ago someone asked on this website how old were the writers. I was amazed at the number who were still in their 40's and 50's... long way from having their careers behind them.
I am still in my career and I am pushing 70 years old.... it's my sanity. I remember my Dad asked me if I would retire so I could drive him and Mom all over hill and dale.... I asked him "did you quit your career to take care of your parents?".... he never asked me again. Guess he figured since I was female I would automatically quit. Well, I told Dad that my salary was never equal to that of my male peers, thus I needed to work many more years to catch up to even get close to what he was receiving in retirement.
Its not your parents money, its your siblings inheritance , you know, the ones who do jack Sh__! I would rather pay my child than a nursing home and get good care, thats for sure.
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I. How We Work in Washington.
Based on your preferences, we provide you with information about one or more of our contracted senior living providers ("Participating Communities") and provide your Senior Living Care Information to Participating Communities. The Participating Communities may contact you directly regarding their services.
APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
II. How We Are Paid.
We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour.
APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
IV. No Obligation or Commitment.
You have no obligation to use or to continue to use our services. Because you pay no fee to us, you will never need to ask for a refund.
V. Complaints.
Please contact our Family Feedback Line at (866) 584-7340 or ConsumerFeedback@aplaceformom.com to report any complaint. Consumers have many avenues to address a dispute with any referral service company, including the right to file a complaint with the Attorney General's office at: Consumer Protection Division, 800 5th Avenue, Ste. 2000, Seattle, 98104 or 800-551-4636.
VI. No Waiver of Your Rights.
APFM does not (and may not) require or even ask consumers seeking senior housing or care services in Washington State to sign waivers of liability for losses of personal property or injury or to sign waivers of any rights established under law.
I agree that:
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I authorize A Place For Mom ("APFM") to collect certain personal and contact detail information, as well as relevant health care information about me or from me about the senior family member or relative I am assisting ("Senior Living Care Information").
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APFM may provide information to me electronically. My electronic signature on agreements and documents has the same effect as if I signed them in ink.
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You consent to APFM's reaching out to you using a phone system than can auto-dial numbers (we miss rotary phones, too!), but this consent is not required to use our service.
If you live in the States, see If your parent qualifies for Medicaid, the State might allow a trained Caregiver come in to help for a couple hours. Also check to see if your State is one of those States that has a “Cash and Counseling” program to help you out, it‘s worth looking into. Note that each State has their own rules, regulations, and programs.
Also contact your county agency on aging for programs such as Case Management, Meals on Wheels, Adult Day Care, housing, care referrals, etc,... go to the website link below.... click on your State.... now click on the city/county. https://www.agingcare.com/local/Area-Agency-on-Aging
And please come back to the forums if you have any Caregiving questions, we would be more than happy to share our experiences with you, and give you ideas on what to do.
If you are looking to cut expenses, I suggest that you contact your water, gas/electric & garbage providers and ask about any programs they may have for seniors on fixed incomes and/or low-income households.
If you're looking for a bit of a break, you can ask her doctor for a Physician's Order (covered under Medicare for home bound patients) to get some Home Health help with bathing, etc. I think some tasks are a little harder on men taking care of moms. Good luck - God bless and stay in touch.
Here are some things to think about if one is trying to decide whether to quit work to care for an aging parent.... on average if a working person quits work he/she will lose, over the years, between $285,000 and $325,000 which includes not only loss of salary, it also includes the net worth loss of the health insurance; loss of money being put into social security/ Medicare; loss of other benefits such as matching 401(k); profit sharing; etc. [source: in part Reuters 5/30/12]
That's a lot of money to lose.... when we ourselves are our parents age, we need to have the money saved for our own care.... otherwise, the circle keeps going around with the grown child quitting their job to take care of their parent(s).
I am still in my career and I am pushing 70 years old.... it's my sanity. I remember my Dad asked me if I would retire so I could drive him and Mom all over hill and dale.... I asked him "did you quit your career to take care of your parents?".... he never asked me again. Guess he figured since I was female I would automatically quit. Well, I told Dad that my salary was never equal to that of my male peers, thus I needed to work many more years to catch up to even get close to what he was receiving in retirement.
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