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Lonelyonly, one thing that I forgot to mention.

Check with their insurance company, most homeowners policies have a clause that voids your coverage if the house is unoccupied. That is not something you want to find out because you have a claim.

Unoccupied coverage is astronomical, like many thousands of dollars annually, so that is another con to keeping the house.
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Since you haven't seen them for 3 weeks who is doing the daily bed strip and wash? If it is the ALF then let it go. You put them there for a reason. If your father is so callous that he still expects you to be at his beck and call you need to set him straight. I understand the feeling of guilt, I had it when I first put my mom into AL after a stroke (from which she recovered). But she flourished and is doing well. It seems your fathers entertainment is to make you miserable. The big question is what is more important - Your health or your fathers tantrums. I had to let my clingy mom know that if something happened to me then she would see even less of me than she does now. Set your dad straight and live your life on your terms. Guilt serves no real purpose.
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Gosh, first, I really feel for you; for what you physically are doing, and the guilt you feel. I do not have it as "bad" as you, yet I too feel guilty with what I have to do and when the "dynamics" between my mother and I rear its ugly head (I too am an only child). I do NOT blame you for feeling you want it over - at all. My friend whose mother lived in San Francisco drove every weekend from Los Angeles to help her and was relieved when she no longer was alive, and not from not loving her mother, but from the burden that all of what she had to do.
I also commend you for sharing this online. I have shared before and sometimes people's "sharpness" and downright insensitivity was so upsetting to me that I no longer post. So, glad you did!
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Isthisrealyreal Apr 2020
I am sorry that you had that experience. Hugs!
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Aren't there staff at the AL able to do most of the work that you are doing? Don't the staff at the AL notice the dog's urine problem? Allowing that in an AL seems odd. Why not report it to the director?

Well, it seems like you sure have done a ton of stuff that you didn't have to do. And, have sacrificed a lot. Basically, it's like working for them full time. And, you dad isn't very appreciative and was angry with you and bullied you?To me, that's a good reason to avoid him. It would likely be a long time before I returned for a visit and I wouldn't feel guilty about it.

My parents are pretty good nature and gracious as well, yet, at times, they annoy me to no end. I need a break. I think that's normal. People can tick you off and when that happens, you should have a chill out phase. I've known people who treat me poorly and I'm done. I walk away. I feel justified. Family dynamics can be complicated, but, you have a right to visiting when you want and enjoying the break. Some people cut off all contact with toxic family members. I might talk to a counselor about validating your feelings. You have a right to your feelings. And the right to see or not see who you want.
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Your folks are safe and cared for in the AL. You did that for them, to help them. The fact your dad can't see it is HIS problem.

My mother also loves to guilt me. I do not see her unless I choose to. Last week she had a friend (a woman who lives a few houses away from me) call me and rip me a new one for "ignoring my precious angel of a mother"--mother told her she had been calling me and leaving messages and I was ignoring her--and that she wasn't sleeping b/c of her deep worry for me. (I had shingles and wasn't feeling great...but I wasn't DYING). Triangulating someone else into our weird relationship to get attention and make me look bad is NOT a new thing for her.

You can continue to feel guilty about doing THE RIGHT THING for mom and dad or you can beat yourself up about the fact dad is angry. Anger is the 'go-to' emotion for a lot of people (esp men, sorry guys). They can't do all the stuff that their wives have been doing for 50 years. They feel useless and instead of learning a new skill--they get mad.

Let your dad be mad. Walk away when he's nasty and keep doing so. You DO NOT owe him anything but respect, and sometimes, not even that.

Just enjoy the 'distancing' and use these times to re-assess what you should and shouldn't be doing for your folks.

My MIL hates me, with a flaming passion. I don't let it bother me at all. I can't--life is too short for hate. She's the one who's missing out, not me.
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Debbio Apr 2020
Amen!
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" just to appease Dad and wash his every dish so he can live the life he wants, at the demise of mine." Please read and reread your sentence here. And this is why you shouldn't feel guilty. He wants you to give up your life so he can maintain his. Once you realize that it will be easier to take a step back.

I don't feel bad that I haven't seen my father in weeks because of all of this. The only thing I feel a little bad about was that his birthday was during all of this and he had to spend it alone. Then I remember my birthday is the same week and he hasn't cared about that in many many years.

They are where they need to be. One person cannot support the life of two others.
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Harpcat Apr 2020
Your response is spot on. I too didn’t go see my dad for his last birthday as I was out of town. And he hasn’t mentioned my birthday in years. Whoopee...he's turned 98 and hates his life. I hardly think he's thrilled about it as he wants to die. So we are now ignoring birthdays since they aren’t happy anymore. I love my dad but this has been a long hard slog! Btw, he will be 99 in 6 months and I’ll be recovering from a hip replacement.
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Yes, I have felt guilty because I didn't feel guilty. Does that make sense?

Enjoy this "down" time. Mom and Dad get their 3 meals a day. There is help if needed. And if they aren't getting their snacks, oh well. They really get enough foid with their meals. Dessert can be taken back to their room and eaten later.

You also mentioned cleaning...is this not part of their rent? It was in Moms AL. Housekeeping came in cleaned the bathroom, dusted and ran the sweeper. This is not something you need to do.
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You said Dad was misdiagnosed with LB? He may need to be reevaluated. There is something going on here.

You post you take care of meds? Why, the AL should be doing that. My Moms insisted on it. They renewed prescriptions and they dispensed them. No resident was allowed Medication in their rooms. Not even an aspirin. Even if Dad has to pay extra, its one thing u don't have to do.

Dr appts. I cut down on Moms. She was going every 6 months to one. There had been no change, so I asked if she could have once a yr. Same with her Thyroid Dr. Her numbers had been normal so we agreed to once a year with labs in 6 months. Can their PCP do more? Does the AL have a bus service? Let them take Mom and Dad.

Do you have POAs? Because without it and your parents found incompetent, there is not much u can do about the sale of the house. Saying that, only do what needs to be done using Dads money. Hire someone to mow the lawn. Unplug anything electric in the house. Have lights come on and off. If Dad still has his car, make sure its seen. Don't use any of your own money to care for the house or them. When it runs out, then apply for Medicaid.

I wasn't an only child, but I might as well have been. I was the oldest and the one that could be made to feel guilty. Also, the one who did everything for my parents because I lived in the same town. So when I was left with caring for Mom who had Dementia, I was overwhelmed. TG I never cared for Dad. He was like your Dad. Felt women had a certain place. One thing I have done and did, though, is set Boundries. I do things in my time not others. And if my time is watching a favorite TV show or just chillin out so be it. I refuse to be at anyone's beck and call. When my Mom, who was easy, lost her license, we set up a day for running errands and grocery shopping. We took her out once a week to eat. If she needed anything in between I got it when I went out. I didn't jump right then and there. Appts were made at my convenience. My Mom also handled all the bills and wrote the checks. Dad would have been lost, TG he went first.

There is nothing wrong in how u feel. Handling a job and a home and life in general is enough and then throw in the sole responsibility of parents...
This virus may help in you now establishing Boundries. You will find that they have done OK on their own. You are an adult with responsibilities of your own. Its time to tell Dad "this is what I can do for you" I have realized I can not be there for you 24/7 and you are capable of doing for yourself. Because of work, I can only be here on the weekend. If there is anything you need, I will bring it then. When he gets nasty, walk away or tell him "If your going to be nasty Mom and I will go to the common room" or "Dad, please don't talk to me that way. I am not a child. I do for you because I want to. I don't have to." You need to set the stage. What you will put up with and what you won't. Maybe some therapy will give u the tools.

Just curious, why do you drive round trip 3 hrs for a job. I would think that in itself would be exhausting. I did 2 hrs round trip for 3 months in my late when I was 40 and it was too much.
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Davenport Apr 2020
There was a time when I drove 2 hours a day roundtrip to work. It was a choice because I wanted to live 'in the country'. I've mostly since lived fairly close to where I worked (15-20 mins.); but JoAnn, I think there are SO many people that have to drive that much because that's where the work is, and for many reasons, it's not feasible to live 'closer in'. That's my .02 on the subject : )
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It is so very hard dealing with elderly demanding family, your dad sounds like a narcissist, those sorts of people do not care what you have in your life or how tired you are taking care of them they want what they want and they want it now.

let him sulk and be angry, you have done enough. You were not put on this earth to be free help for your parents, they have had their life. Any loving parents would truly accept that their child could do no more.

it is unfair and unreasonable behavior on your dads part, especially after all you have done for him.

My dad sounds the same as yours, although I have had a life time of his ‘temper tantrum's’ when he didn’t get his way or you stood up to him because you refused to be bullied into submission, he is 86 and still is the same.

Do not move your dad into your home for any reason, it will ruin your life and your husbands life having someone so toxic living under your roof, get power of attorney and sell their house so you can afford for him to stay put.

I don’t know what relationship you had with your dad before he got old and I apologize if I have written anything that offends. But it’s time to harden your heart. You are not a bad person/daughter to dread visiting someone who is never nice to you. He should count his blessing that you helped him out for so long.

When you visit keep it civil and as soon as he starts picking a fight or being mean I would politely excuse yourself and leave.

you are not a punching bag for someone who cannot see that you have done your best and are truly a loving person.

Forgive yourself for your feelings of guilt and any thoughts of feeling free if they should die and accept the fact that your dad has turned into a nasty spiteful old man.
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stop cleaning pee and dog poop - let the AL handle them, and their dr visits etc. This isn't good for your mental health. my FIL is the same way - women's work, DIL work - he'll boss. I say "no" and somehow he figures out how to get done. They are in AL - let them work with AL
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Great big warm hug!

Of course you dread dealing with your parents, they are dreadful. Your poor mom has given up or more likely worn out trying to appease your dad, he just thinks that women were created to kick around and use up to please him. I dreaded him for you reading this report.

My dad is/was similar in the facts of thinking that a woman should do everything. I don't know how you did it for 2 years, kudos to you for your strength and desire to be what they needed and wanted. Your heart was in the right place.

I would encourage you to emotionally disconnect from the situation. They are in AL, let AL do what they need. If you stop propping them up and he has to live with things, maybe, just maybe he will get up and do something. Like hanging up clothes, he is perfectly capable of doing that, it's not complicated or difficult. He doesn't need to change anything because you do his bidding. No judgment, it is what I did for a while, because I am that kind of person, I will do what I can and I had to learn that he would let me, then he expected me and then he tried demanding me. That was when I realized that I needed to back off because I was training him how to treat me and I was unhappy with the treatment that he was dishing out. I think that you are in a similar situation.

You are now the adult in the relationship. You will need to do what is in their best interests, whether he likes it or not. I am talking about the house, not jumping to his tune. If the house is losing value as it sits, the best thing is to sell it to keep the value higher. Maybe they have enough money to do the required maintenance and then you can rent it out to generate monthly income for them. Owning a house is expensive, because it needs to be taken care of, this is now all on your shoulders to decide, one thing that I recommend is not letting it sit and fall apart because you are worried about his future reactions. He will be selling the house to move away when something happens to your mom, so you are saving him the effort. That is how I would look at it.

Have you ever tried telling him to stop or to do something around the house instead of dumping it all on you? If he wasn't your dad would you be likely to just do all the things that you do? I would stop doing things that he can easily do and tell him that he needs to put the water and snacks away himself and I would tell my dad that I am happy to stop getting them if it is to much on him to put them away. When this isolation is over he can take the AL transportation to the store and get them himself.

You will have to forget that he is your dad and treat him like he behaves. That is challenging at first, but I promise that each, "no, I can't possibly do that." "Dad, you need to put that away, hang those up, do it yourself. " does get easier.

Will he have a fit? Oh yeah, but you treat it like you would treat a 2 year old throwing a fit. You stick to your guns and you ignore or walk away from it. This will take some time and effort on your part. You say he is already angry, so you don't have to worry about that.

You were not put on this earth to be his doormat, kicking post or scratching post. You don't have to accept or subject yourself to his abuse. It is okay to tell him that his behavior is not okay and to stop treating you ugly and to walk away if he doesn't stop.

You matter and your life matters. He isn't the only person in the room that matters, regardless of what he thinks.

You can do this, for your family and yourself. His unwillingness to do for himself and his wife are not your marching orders.
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I’m sorry for what you’re dealing with. Please stop trying to justify your choices and the decisions you’re making for your parents. They, particularly your dad, likely won’t ever understand that you’ve looked out for their best interests and done a great job taking care of them. If your dad hates you so be it, accept that it’s due to mental illness, a broken brain, and not anything you’ve done or can change. Nothing is wrong with you, you’ve done far more than many people would. Don’t sacrifice your own health or family life to this situation. Do what you can and no more and even then know that your parents are blessed to have you
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Hi, LO1,
You ask in your story "what is wrong with me?"...I'll tell you what's wrong with you - absolutely nothing! There is nothing wrong with not wanting to enable what seems to be an extremely toxic relationship with your dad! There is nothing wrong with wanting to live your own life, and not be little more than a servant to your father's wishes!
I am so sorry that you are going through this situation. It's not ever easy on children, even adult children, when parents behave like your dad. It seems like there are many people in this forum who have at least 1 parent like your dad, parents who expect their children to put their entire lives on hold to take care of them! Another posting had someone questioning the seemingly disproportionate amount of these kinds of parents to the members of this forum, but to me it make sense that so many people here have toxic relationships with their families, because - hey - if we didn't need support in our caregiving duties we probably wouldn't be in this forum in the first place!
As so many wiser people here have said before me, you have a right to live your life! And you have the right to be happy in your Iife! What your describing isn't healthy for you or your husband or your children. Your dad sounds like a master manipulator (and I hope you won't get angry with me, but it sounds like borderline abuse!) and while it will not be easy to cut the strings, so to speak, for your own mental and physical health it is time to establish some boundaries.
First and foremost, forgive yourself. You are doing the best you can. And believe me, you are so not alone in your feelings! I'm caregiving for my mom, who - comparatively speaking, is not difficult to care for - and I often have these feelings! And like you, I have a certain amount of guilt associated with them, but I tell myself that I am not perfect, and I don't have to be. I only have to do the best that I can in any given situation.
You have tried and tried to make your parents lives perfect, and you know what? There ain't no such thing! If your dad is depending on someone else to make him happy, he's going to be unhappy for a very long time. And you are not responsible for his happiness!
My advice - decide, yourself, what you're capable of doing. (Maybe write it out for clarity). Then review that list, and decide what your WILLING to do. Then tell dad - don't ask - tell him what you will do for him going forward. And then stick to it. If he needs help above what you are willing to do, he can find someone out there to help him. Right now, I'm guessing he's getting help for him and your mom in their facility. If your mom passes and he decides to come home, that's his decision and not on you to make happen. You said you think he has some sort of mental health issue, and I am very sorry that he has to deal with that, but his mental illness is not a pass for him to treat you so terribly. Please repeat that to yourself every single day. His mental health issues do not give him the right to be abusive to you! And I hope you will forgive me for saying this - if he treated your mom the same way, and she put up with it, that's on her! Again, it doesn't give him the right to be abusive to you! No right whatsoever!
Set your limits and live you life happily, You deserve it!
Sending you virtual hugs while you deal with this!
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Hi LonelyOnly, I totally get it. I am an only child too, raised for 18 yrs by my mom and her 2 older sisters who never got married or had kids. So, I have 3 mothers. Mine is 90 and lives next door to me, the other mothers live far away in their own home ages 98 and 100 and I manage their care. I also manage care for my MIL in a local NH with short-term memory care.

I read your post and your profile. I find it curious that you haven't used the word "dementia" to describe anything that is going on with your parents. Have either of them been diagnosed? That ship may have sailed but having a formal diagnosis informs how you look at all of this and what medications may be helpful to them.

If you try to remember them as their former, true selves and then add on that now they have a very common illness of old age, a broken brain, it may be easier to deal with it all and make decisions. They can no longer make their own decisions for their own best interests, so you must. Starting with them being in AL, which is where they should be and need to be, even after your mother passes. You cannot and should not be attempting to care for them. Your own husband comes first, then your children. Your parents will get far more social attention and prompt and appropriate medical care where they are and it no longer matters what their broken brains want -- they cannot have it no matter what: financially or otherwise. That generation has a phobia of nursing homes. That generation rolled into their sunset years assuming their children would take care of them. Period. So they spent no time really thinking through the fairness, reality, logistics of any of it. So it is no wonder they can't compute it in their minds that what they expected their entire lives didn't happen. I'm caring for all my seniors plus running a business with my husband (with employees) full-time, plus hosting and providing most of the care for my 10-yr grandson 50% of his custody time. My mother doesn't comprehend any of this stress even though she's lived literally next door to me since 1997. And this past year her brain has frayed more and she is really losing her ability to sympathize or read social cues, so it gets on my last nerve pretty fast amidst everything else in my day.

I'm assuming (and hoping) you are your parents' durable PoA. If so I would spend their money (not yours) on a 2-hr consult with an elder law/estate planning attorney about selling their house and what to do with those funds and how to maximize paying for their care etc. I surely hope you are not paying for any of their care out of your own pocket. If so, stop and don't fear Medicaid. That's a whole other conversation.

For now your assignment is to work on seeing and internalizing that you cannot change their decline (indeed, a vast majority of seniors are in this boat), and that by having them in a care facility, selling their house and minimizing the stress on you due to their care, you are doing everything possible and it IS benefitting them, whether they like it or not. If you burn out, where will that leave them? If the plane is nose-diving you need to put on your oxygen mask FIRST before you can help those who can't help themselves.

In terms of dealing with their anger at visits, you will need to learn how to redirect conversations and educate yourself on how to interact with parents like yours. Many on this forum can provide first-hand guidance on what has worked for them. Many will recommend the Teepa Snow videos on YouTube about dementia. May you gain peace in your heart over this situation and how you handle it moving forward!
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Hi LonelyOnly1 - 51 y/o only child here, also a F/T worker. Short answer: You are not alone. There is only so much one person can take and only so much day-to-day pressure/demands one can handle before it becomes too much to be pleasant about. Long story: My mom passed last June and my dad was moved in AL in November. He did not want to go, citing leaving all of his "nice things," until I had to remind him that he was not living independently and telling him if wants to stay by himself I will no longer do anything (which was a lot: grocery shopping, paying bills, cleaning, making sure he had some home help a few hours a day). I reached the end of my rope after a long year of one hit after another. So he moved to AL and I was so relieved. My parents were both financially irresponsible and EVERYTHING fell on me - out of the blue. I am angry and resentful, admittedly. And like you, since the COVID-19 lockdown it has been a relief not to have visit. I still call everyday and help however I can, but with limits. Now we are in the Medicaid app process - fortunately I was able to hire an elder law atty with my mom's life insurance money - and more financial issues that I had no idea about are bubbling up.

The only piece of advice I can give you that helps me is to remind yourself you are doing the best you can under the circumstances and that it's not your fault. Don't fall into the guilt trap, either. Hang in there.
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