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She sneaks food from kitchen all the time. Not sure why, no reason I guess, but I am afraid of her getting sick if she eats something that I don't find in time. Any ideas about this would be great?😵
Zip Ties.... Just hide the scissors so she won't hurt herself. The come in packages,a nd get the heavier ones. HOme depot, Lowes, Target maybe... No locks, keys, or numbers...
Make a special "welcome basket" in her room with snacks that you are ok with for her to eat. Like in a hotel... Lil water bottles, fig nutines. cheezits, gold fish crackers. LIttle individual packs, placed nicely ina little disply tray.. And if you are okay, with that, maybe a fresh fruit of somekind, apple, or orange, or a little bunch of grapes, or individual packs of dried plums (prunes). It doesns't have to be a big tray, just a small one with a few things in it for her to choose. cheese n cracker packs, you know, the ones we stuck in our kids lunch boxes.
If you don't want to use locks to prevent her from hiding food, how on earth would you stop her from doing it, at least with refrigerated foods?? You're better off getting her a bit irritated than worrying about whether or not she'll get sick from eating spoiled food she's managed to hide in her room! The other non perishables you can put in high cabinets where she can't reach the handles, but it's the perishables you're worried about.
My moms steals candy, scissors, knives, pastries, etc...I find them all over her assisted living apartment....under the bed, in the couch cushions... I don't have any suggestions other than locking everything down which would be a pain for everyone else in the house. Just wanted to let you know it's pretty common.
I had to lock the refer & freezer. Used some good looking glue-on cables. One on door other on side of refer. Then a small padlock thru the loops. Kept the key high up on a top shelf. You quickly get used to and good at the rigamarole of accessing the refer. Google refer locking.
I put many items in cupboards elsewhere in the house. Inconvenient yes, but again you get used to it. You might never completely conquer the situation but it can be minimized. Locking the cupboards is a real pain - just move stuff away.
================= Prior to the refer locks I tied the refer shut with a rope wrapped around it. Had to tie a fancy knot to keep it from getting solved. Got me by till the locks were shipped. That rope was a pain.
Yea .. it's a common thing. My mom takes apples & oranges from the common area in her retirement home.. then she wants to give them to me, I tell her we can't eat that much & they're for the residents. I told the mgr., she smiled & said it's common. I took them out of my purse to give back but she can't take them back when they're in my possession - I now make a lot of fruit salads :) Now, I don't sweat the small stuff... she can take whatever she wants & if she dies from eating it .. she's an adult, even with her increasing memory loss - I can't stop her. My mom walked around her suite without a walker after hip surgery from a fall ... she didn't like me being "Dr. daughter' so I let it go .. she's going to do it if I'm not there anyway.. I just helped her find ways to do as much as she could safely without the walker .. 3 mos. has passed and she got a cane but hardly uses it, even with instability. I say, if she dies trying to be independent, forgetful ... she's dying how she wants. I
I am not dealing wit full blown Alzheimers, but the dementia where they forget/rememberforget/recall .. that crazy period where they KNOW they are forgetting stuff & it does scare them some. My mom was always very independent - we know they're going to do some crazy stuff. I finally got her to give me some clothes to wash after 9 mos. of trying .. yea, big accomplishment !
I feel like, for the most part my mom is safe from big harm, if she falls or whatever, she's an adult & is striving to continue living life on her terms (as much as possible - she would rather live on her own still, the retirement home w/ meals, cleaning etc.. helps her & makes me feel better - even though she likes the people but dislikes the decline in her health & isolation (b/c she won't do any activities :/ , that's another post, again up to her )
She would be furious if I do that cuz I did lock pantry door one-time with a child proof handle covershe was pissed so I tryed telling her it was to keep my grand kids out of it but she managed to pry it off someway when no one was looking
I think you are just getting into it. Sharing and leaving things out is just fine. Until! You find a bag of noodles all over the floor, 25 feet of plastic wrap all over the kitchen, a bottle of liquid soap open and your mother tasting it, the refer standing open for a long time and food smeared/spilled around……. then you will learn to be constantly vigilant, and to hide stuff and to bring out JUST what is needed and no more and keep track of that and put it away afterwards. Luck to ya.
When we had toddlers, they once got into medications and spilled pills on the floor. I was scared. Since the meds were bitter I knew they would never eat them after a taste. However, I proceeded to lock up everything that they could get into. Consider getting child locks on cabinets and the refrigerator.
I also like the idea of having a snack basket that mom can help herself to - day or night. Fill it with bottles of water and juices, easy to eat fruit, shelf stable cheese and crackers or nut butters and crackers... She may have gone through a period in her past where food was scarce or more difficult to come by.
My mom does some of this, though she doesn't hide things on purpose unless it's to hide the evidence (she's diabetic with a sweet tooth and loves to lick salt off crackers with CHF) but I think her food "hording" if you will is more about not wanting to make another trip to the kitchen, she would be happy with once every few days if we let her, as well as not wanting to come in contact with the boarders that live upstairs. She will go to the big picture window which is in her main private area of the house, to see who's car is there before going out into the shared kitchen. If she waits until the one particular boarder's car is gone she knows there is no chance of running into him, he's a chatter and she isn't he is also closer to her age than the others we have had so she stocks up when she has the kitchen to herself and makes herself get up to use it. She doesn't really leave food that will spoil out though, hard cheese sometimes but typically anything she does take into her room gets eaten throughout the day.
Might it be that your mom just doesn't want to make another trip to the kitchen and takes more than she will actually eat? That coupled with other dementia related factors... It means a bit more work and planning for you but maybe coupled with the snack basket idea making things that wont spoil easily accessible using that idea in your kitchen could help. Putting things that wont spoil quickly in the front and most easily accessible spots in the fridge, things you don't want her absconding with in higher cabinets, just making it more difficult for her to get at the things you prefer she doesn't take anywhere without "barring" her from them. See if that helps, it may not. You might find that you need to keep better track of those things she takes or that are missing so if you have grapes for instance available you know by looking at the bowl if she took any to her room and if so you know to check for the evidence they were consumed or look for them if there isn't any.
The other thing of course that you could do is get a couple of camera's, maybe one in the kitchen and one in her room, that are motion triggered so you can see what she carries out of the kitchen and what happens to it in her room if it's missing. This doesn't mean you need to spend a lot of time looking back through her day but when you aren't sure what happened to that plate of food or spoon she took to her room you can kind of go back to see. If it weren't for the camera over my mom's table's and the Echo's there is no way we would be able to manage her well enough. Depending or your longer term plan these are things better put in place sooner rather than later so your mom can adjust to them before it's too late for her to have the ability to adjust, if that makes sense.... Good luck, this is always a journey of discovery and a lesson in adaptability, ingenuity I have found!
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Based on your preferences, we provide you with information about one or more of our contracted senior living providers ("Participating Communities") and provide your Senior Living Care Information to Participating Communities. The Participating Communities may contact you directly regarding their services.
APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
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We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour.
APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
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Make a special "welcome basket" in her room with snacks that you are ok with for her to eat. Like in a hotel... Lil water bottles, fig nutines. cheezits, gold fish crackers. LIttle individual packs, placed nicely ina little disply tray.. And if you are okay, with that, maybe a fresh fruit of somekind, apple, or orange, or a little bunch of grapes, or individual packs of dried plums (prunes). It doesns't have to be a big tray, just a small one with a few things in it for her to choose. cheese n cracker packs, you know, the ones we stuck in our kids lunch boxes.
I put many items in cupboards elsewhere in the house. Inconvenient yes, but again you get used to it. You might never completely conquer the situation but it can be minimized. Locking the cupboards is a real pain - just move stuff away.
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Prior to the refer locks I tied the refer shut with a rope wrapped around it. Had to tie a fancy knot to keep it from getting solved. Got me by till the locks were shipped. That rope was a pain.
Now, I don't sweat the small stuff... she can take whatever she wants & if she dies from eating it .. she's an adult, even with her increasing memory loss - I can't stop her.
My mom walked around her suite without a walker after hip surgery from a fall ... she didn't like me being "Dr. daughter' so I let it go .. she's going to do it if I'm not there anyway.. I just helped her find ways to do as much as she could safely without the walker .. 3 mos. has passed and she got a cane but hardly uses it, even with instability.
I say, if she dies trying to be independent, forgetful ... she's dying how she wants. I
I am not dealing wit full blown Alzheimers, but the dementia where they forget/rememberforget/recall .. that crazy period where they KNOW they are forgetting stuff & it does scare them some. My mom was always very independent - we know they're going to do some crazy stuff. I finally got her to give me some clothes to wash after 9 mos. of trying .. yea, big accomplishment !
I feel like, for the most part my mom is safe from big harm, if she falls or whatever, she's an adult & is striving to continue living life on her terms (as much as possible - she would rather live on her own still, the retirement home w/ meals, cleaning etc.. helps her & makes me feel better - even though she likes the people but dislikes the decline in her health & isolation (b/c she won't do any activities :/ , that's another post, again up to her )
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I also like the idea of having a snack basket that mom can help herself to - day or night. Fill it with bottles of water and juices, easy to eat fruit, shelf stable cheese and crackers or nut butters and crackers... She may have gone through a period in her past where food was scarce or more difficult to come by.
Might it be that your mom just doesn't want to make another trip to the kitchen and takes more than she will actually eat? That coupled with other dementia related factors... It means a bit more work and planning for you but maybe coupled with the snack basket idea making things that wont spoil easily accessible using that idea in your kitchen could help. Putting things that wont spoil quickly in the front and most easily accessible spots in the fridge, things you don't want her absconding with in higher cabinets, just making it more difficult for her to get at the things you prefer she doesn't take anywhere without "barring" her from them. See if that helps, it may not. You might find that you need to keep better track of those things she takes or that are missing so if you have grapes for instance available you know by looking at the bowl if she took any to her room and if so you know to check for the evidence they were consumed or look for them if there isn't any.
The other thing of course that you could do is get a couple of camera's, maybe one in the kitchen and one in her room, that are motion triggered so you can see what she carries out of the kitchen and what happens to it in her room if it's missing. This doesn't mean you need to spend a lot of time looking back through her day but when you aren't sure what happened to that plate of food or spoon she took to her room you can kind of go back to see. If it weren't for the camera over my mom's table's and the Echo's there is no way we would be able to manage her well enough. Depending or your longer term plan these are things better put in place sooner rather than later so your mom can adjust to them before it's too late for her to have the ability to adjust, if that makes sense.... Good luck, this is always a journey of discovery and a lesson in adaptability, ingenuity I have found!
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