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When my brother died my sister in-law was my best friend and the day after he left this earth, she had me packed ready to move in, which of course I’m sure I would have anyway, but it happened so quickly I had no time to think about it. I also had my daughter with me who Was a teenager along now with 2 nephews (brother’s kids) junior and senior in high school. My sister-in-law and I got along great. I wanted so much to be there for her but have some ptsd as my brother shot himself in the head in their bed a find although of course the cleaners were there she wanted to stay in that room. I did to make her happy but boy did that affect me. Anyways she got a new bed, and I gave my daughter the spare room and shared bed with sister-in-law because it was like a slumber party every night when we were together, so we did this for 8 months and I was getting ready to move out because she met a man however than the worse day of my life happened. My Father passed away. Everyone kind of decided for me that I take care of my mom as she had all the memories of them at the house we grew up. My Dad asked me before he passed if I’d take care of mom if something happened to him and I laughed as we didn’t get along growing up, I said we’d kill each other (hypothetically of course) and so I would honor his request. My daughter and I then moved back to the house I was raised in for the first two years it was awful my daughter graduated and left us. Then it was good for about 4yrs. She’s 79 my dad spoiled her, and I do everything for her house. She was paying me 300.00 a month to care for her underground heated pool and a crap ton of yard work, weeding, gardening, just making it look nice. I have 3 sisters. One a mile away who doesn’t help much with anything. She used to do med fills and hair/nail appts. One lives about a half hour away and happens to be POA and my sister who just moved back to retired military. The 3 of them used to have little appreciation for what I did for mom so they could continue to live a normal life now they have taken away the 300.00 saying mom can’t afford it when the POA pays so much unnecessary services. She has control now and they want me to get a job. My mom’s care and this place is already way more than full-time, and they haven’t helped in the past. They just show up unannounced to take trees down. I’ve always done that in the past, but I was upset because they didn’t even let me know. They knock on my bedroom door and want to talk. I’m pi**ed so I opted not to at that time.


I find out a few days later because my sister dropped mom off and was asking her to sign something. Well, I’m not speaking with my sisters so I ask mom and she’s says it’s something about medical. I find out that it’s a quit claim deed for the house they obviously thought I shouldn’t be privy to, they now say I’m living off mom and that I need to move out. Mom and I aren’t getting along because I did this for her and now, she says I should pay rent and that I should do everything for free because I’m under her roof. Beyond hurt and crushed any feedback would be good.

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You are living off of your mother if you don't work and aren't paying rent.
On the flip side of that coin, your mother is also living off of you.
No one who hasn't been in a situation like this sees it this way though. I've been where you are though not in a grand estate and I had to do it all for free for my mother along with cleaning out my own savings to pay for my needs and household needs. I thank God every day I'm not in that situation anymore.

Does your mother and siblings know that no one is going to do the maintenance of what sounds to me like an estate for $300 a month? Are you also stuck doing the cooking, laundry, housekeeping, and being the entertainment for your mother as well?

You need to get a job and move out as quickly as you can. Let your mother and your siblings figure it out.

I think your siblings are going to put your mother into into a care facility. That's why sister came by to do a medical POA and quick-claim deed the property. This isn't smart. Unless your mother has a terrific Long Term Care insurance policy, all of her assets, bank accounts, property, and monthly income get paid to the care facility because she'll be a cash-pay resident. Then she'll qualify for Medicaid when it's all gone.

There of course is a 5-year lookback period with Medicaid which means that a senior can't just sign over deeds and bank accounts to family in the car on the way to the nursing home like they used to.

Your sister may or may not think she's being clever and protecting assets. She's not.

Get out of that house. Find a place to stay then sit back and watch the sh*tshow because most likely will be a big one.
Good luck.
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Move out and focus on your life and your needs. Let your sisters deal with mom.
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A person with dementia can sign legal documents as long as they are deemed competent and with capacity to do so by the notary and/or attorney at the time.

People with dementia don't lose all their legal rights. They don't have to walk into a legal office and declare "I have dementia!" Many of those diagnosed with dementia still drive, sign legal papers, participate in sports, etc.
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BurntCaregiver Apr 9, 2024
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You are mistaken. A lawyer or notary cannot "deem" someone mentally competent because they are not qualified to do that.

Sure, a person with dementia can sign a document. All a person has to do is challenge that document even slightly and it becomes null and void.

How many elderly people with dementia do you think decide to cut family members out of a Will because of some small disagreement, or imaginary slight, or because their mind has 'villified' that person? You contest it in court.

Nursing homes pull underhanded things like this all the time getting residents with dementia to sign documents. They only get away with it when families allow them to.
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Perhaps moms financial accounts are dwindling and the house is too large for her? POA might have just cause to downsize? Is she doing her job of paying bills and such? How do you get supplies into the home without any finances? Do you have a joint ownership of her bank account? It could be in your defense that you are not a loafer, you have been assigned to her care. I really don't like the way they found you to be the convenient caregiver and turned on you like that! I wouldn't stay where I wasn't wanted. You're better off without them! Let the wicked sisters get what they want.....comeuppance is a B*tch. Get out of there Cinderella and have a Ball!
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Your profile says your mom has dementia/ALZ. That means she couldn't legally sign that document. That is something that has to be witnessed and notarized, not signed under false pretenses and coerced by someone who stands to benefit. A quit claim deed has to be filed with the town. I would notify the town immediately that that is a false document.

Now sister, not wanting you to receive $300/month, will find it costs $300/day or more to hire care for someone with dementia. I would move out ASAP notify social services that your mom is at risk. I'm so sorry you are going through this. In the long run, as mom continues to decline you will be better off having built a life of your own.

Let the greedy siblings handle mom's care, while you simply visit as a loving daughter.
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Colleenkj: Move out and move on with your life.
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Find a job for yourself that will allow you to live independently. Your sibling with the POAs can make decisions for your mom - and does not need to keep you informed. Just let everybody know when you will start work and not be available as mom's caregiver. Then, you can visit mom and enjoy time with her.
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HI Colleen - I'm really sorry to hear what you're going thru - and you sound like a very giving person. If your sister is the POA and asked your mom to sign a quit claim deed, did you sister have your mother's house transferred title to her? I think it sounds like that. Does your mother realize that...and is that what she wants?

Your sisters sound selfish and untrustworthy....they have no idea how much work goes into caregiving - they'll be in for a rude awakening. You should research what your rights are (you can even call a lawyer for a phone consult to inquire) - you've been living at your mother's house for years taking care of her, so you shouldn't worry about your sisters trying to push you out immediately - I don't believe they can do that. So, while you're still living at the house, I think you need to put a plan in place regarding next steps...such as seeking employment, or enrolling for online classes/ training for a new skill ...working remotely, etc - whatever it is to create steps for being financially independent. And take the time that you need to secure yourself - you've sacrificed for others for years.

The idea that your sister complained that you were getting paid a whopping $75 weekly to take care of your mother's house is really despicable - they should be ashamed. They shouldn't bully you ...I hope you stand up for yourself and not allow it. They had a good deal with you taking care of everything...I hope you find a better life outside of all this and put your energies to new beginnings.
Best wishes ~
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Your siblings, and maybe your mother, view you as being stuck and a freeloader. That’s the brutal truth, and the fact your sister has POA and not you makes it so much more difficult for you. I would advise anyone who decides to move back in with elderly parents, if they have siblings, to make sure you have POA and not one of your siblings. If that can’t be done, and you are moving back with your parents primarily because it is financially beneficial, you are eventually going to be in a bad situation. Parent will continue to decline, you will be doing the brunt of the care support until eventually sibling will step in, place parent somewhere, sell the house and you will be in desperation or out in the streets. I’ve seen it happen more than a few times.

My advice to you now is to do whatever you can to get a full time job and eventually leave this situation behind, because you are in a no win situation.
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300.00? Wow... Ur seriously underpaid. This is a full time job! Ur siblings need a wakeup call. Like how much mom will lose if she goes into l
A long term facility. For starters! They should be paying you since they don't do anything whatsoever. Imho
I'm am only child with few relatives.. thank God! I do what mom wants it's not that strenuous.bjust normal care.
Mom pays for most everything and I do work part time now .(I'm sure eventually this will be FT... for a while)
Wish I could help more but tbh if it was me.id be deciding what's best for me and then her. But since sis has POA ur pretty restricted.~ooh here's and idea! Go to local nursing homes and get a list of how much they cost and show that to ur sisters when they get on ur butt. If they aren't gonna help they shouldn't gripe lol
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First - based on your contentious relationship with your mom, you probably already know that you should not have agreed to this. It was always going to be a disaster for you. But I give you kudos for trying.
Second - I don't believe they can force you out. I'm guessing they may have to get a court order to evict you because you have established residency at your mom's for over 6 years. Bullying you to move out of your own accord is to their benefit. But given the angst you're under you'd be better off getting a job and saving money to get out as soon as you can. And do not pay rent. If anything, they. owe. you.
Third - once you're gone, they will find out very quickly how much you were doing and may try to get you to come back. Don't do it. There are 3 other sisters. Let them take it on. Don't let them bully or guilt you. You've done your part and they are the ones who have been reaping the benefits.
Fourth - Your relationship with your daughter is priority. Focus on that.
Finally - I took in a 92 year old great-aunt once. I was trying to be and do all the things you were and did for your mom. It was beyond awful. She was the definition of a bitter old woman. Six months later, my husband kicked her out. She had made me cry one too many times. There was a palpable difference in the atmosphere once she walked out the door that all of us felt. I've never regretted trying or kicking her out. She badmouthed me for the rest of her life but I didn't care. Evil left my house the day my husband escorted her out.

If your sisters try to lock you out, call the police. I believe you have the right to stay there because you have established residency there. Even if the quik claim deed puts the house in your sisters name, I bet she'd still have to go through the eviction process to remove you. I'd check into getting a free consultation with a lawyer to see where you stand.
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IF your mother does not have dementia - SHE made the choice to alienate you. You're sisters may have pressured her or convinced her, but at 79 your mom can do her own thinking.

IF your mom is cognitively impaired and that is documented, her signature on the quit claim deed could be challenged. However, going that path could be costly. You would need to decide the route you prefer - challenge the quit claim deed, or not. You could weigh you connection and love for your mother against the emotional battering you've taken from your 3 sisters - and then decide.

I recommend you take some time and envision how you would feel if you leave vs envisioning how you would feel if you don't. Take the route that feels best and don't look back.

Just my 2 cents. You are in a tough place - please don't beat yourself up.
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Totally agree with the wise advice to remove yourself from this situation. New job, new place to live, and a better life. You need and deserve it
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You are 53. Find a job and move out. Leave this mess of dysfunction behind

And yes, it’s wrong they don’t appreciate you.
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Sounds like initially you felt as if you were caught between a rock and a hard place. Trust me, many of us, knows all too well what this feels like.

We don’t always think clearly when we are caught off guard. Now that you are starting to think about your life more deeply, I hope that you will consider that there is life beyond caregiving.

Start looking into resources that will be of help to you, so that you can build a future of your own apart from your mom.

So sorry for the loss of your brother. I have suicide in my family too, a nephew and cousins. It’s devastating.

Wishing you the very best in life. Take care.
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Taking care of someone with dementia is a full time Job and The Only Person who should have POA is the One doing the caretaking , upkeep of house and is the One doing all the work. I Hope you can Leave - You are Young . People dont realize This but when you start caretaing this could go On for 10 - 20 Years . No you should Not Pay rent and $300 is Nothing . I suggest you let the One with POA do the work - House keeping , cleaning , grocery shopping , driving to doctors appointments , cooking , and eventually changing wet Pajamas , dirty laundry , soiled sheets , Poop and Odd behaviors . Get Out while you can and Please do not let these People use you .
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Southernwaver Mar 28, 2024
Does she have dementia?
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I suggest that you let the entire family know that you will be moving out and moving on with your life. Don't know your current job status but this will mean you get yourself a job, and you take your daughter with you.

If all are dependent on your care then do give good notice, say three months. Since you mention no contract I assume you have been unable to save any caregiving funds. Since you mention no dementia I assume Mom is safe while you seek a job. You will need to save up so that you can afford first and last on a small place.

I sure wish you good luck, but the family dynamics here are way too complicated, enmeshed and messy to try to comb out and deal with. Best place for you and a teen daughter is on your own, even if that means staying in a shelter.

Staying for free rental and doing caregiving without pay will leave you penniless and homeless as you currently have seen and had notice of.

So sorry. This was poor decision making and you've painting yourself into a corner that is going to be difficult to work your way out of without a good deal of struggle and pain.
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People who don't do the care giving do not understand what it takes. I think the best thing to do is get out of the situation because when people get greedy and have the power to take what they can, they will do just that. A job away from this mess will be good for you. They will wish you to go back when they realize how helpful you've been for soooo little money, but don't do it. Make a plan and leave.
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JuliaH Apr 4, 2024
You just made me think about something? Did these greedy people get mom to make out her will,well knowing Mom had cognitive issues? Did dad have one in place that was altered?
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Family can get pretty weird (and unthankful) when it comes to assets when there's a death or someone becomes in need of care. You were honest with your dad, so there's no need to feel like you're breaking a promise given to a dying man.

If you know you've done your best for your mom, don't damage your mental/emotional/physical health by valiantly trying to stay in a stressful situation. There are a lot of opportunities waiting for a young woman of 53. Go and see!
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Move out. I so hope you have the means. Then Dear sisters can take care of Mom.
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funkygrandma59 Mar 28, 2024
Amen!
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