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The Grandaughters POA will end, upon Grandmothers death, and then the Executor (per Grandmothers Will) will take over handling her estate afterwards. It is my understanding that Any funeral arrangements are handled per Grandmothers legal documents, ie; POA, living Will, Last Will and Testament by her legal spouse (if still living), her surviving Adult children/children's, surviving adult sibling, and So forth.
Generally all of her family members will get together, to discuss her wishes, and decide the best way in which to honor her, with her expressed wishes in mind. Did Grandmother have any of her funeral arrangements made in advance, pre-paid burial plot, headstone, services? Checking with the funeral home to see if any of these things have been taken care of is a good place to start, Grandma may have a box or drawer of important paperwork somewhere, look for that too! Grandma may also have a life insurance policy, just to cover these sorts of expenses.
Just because she has POA doesn’t mean she is responsible for making funeral arrangements. She will write the checks to pay for them, but she isn’t solely responsible for making them.
Are you asking because the family doesn’t want to do it? Is the person deceased? If not, is it possible to ask what sort of funeral they want? Are any of the person’s wishes written down anywhere?
If nothing is written down and none of the family knows what the person’s wishes are or were, everyone should get together and discuss how they would like the person to be remembered, that way, if the family is present, no one feels left out or uninformed.
The POA authority ends with the death of the principal. If the principal has died then the POA has no authority to act for the principal for a funeral or any other expenditure. The funeral home, I suspect, will arrange a funeral for and by anyone who will pay for it. If they are to bill the estate after the funeral, the payment of that bill would be made by the executor of the will. Possibly the POA document gives the authority to make the arrangements and is well within the authority of the POA to prepay for the funeral before the principal dies.
The granddaughter said she was getting poa, and will have the say over the arrangements. My mom doesn't want to be laid out, she said a simple goodbye about an hour is all she wants, but the granddaughter said she will do what she wants., just wanting to know if she has the right as poa to do the arrangements, or is it up to her son and daughter
POA doesnt work that way, from my understanding. Grandmothers adult children will be the ones to make her final arrangements At the funeral home, but Anyone can have a service for her if they wish to. It is not uncommon for multiple people to host a gathering to say their goodbyes, oftentimes in different states, and at different times.
So sorry the Grandaughter can't come together with the group, to honor her wishes as a family. Unless she has the right to act as Grandmothers legal designated responsible party (legal document stating so), the "final resting" decisions are to be made by her adult children, now if no such documents exist, I just don't know, but look to Grandma's Will. Still, Anyone can host a memorial service.
The only situation where I can see the granddaughter as POA having a say in the funeral arrangements is if it is being preplanned and paid for ahead of time. But even then, things can be changed when the time comes.
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Based on your preferences, we provide you with information about one or more of our contracted senior living providers ("Participating Communities") and provide your Senior Living Care Information to Participating Communities. The Participating Communities may contact you directly regarding their services.
APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
II. How We Are Paid.
We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour.
APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
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Generally all of her family members will get together, to discuss her wishes, and decide the best way in which to honor her, with her expressed wishes in mind. Did Grandmother have any of her funeral arrangements made in advance, pre-paid burial plot, headstone, services? Checking with the funeral home to see if any of these things have been taken care of is a good place to start, Grandma may have a box or drawer of important paperwork somewhere, look for that too! Grandma may also have a life insurance policy, just to cover these sorts of expenses.
Are you asking because the family doesn’t want to do it? Is the person deceased? If not, is it possible to ask what sort of funeral they want? Are any of the person’s wishes written down anywhere?
If nothing is written down and none of the family knows what the person’s wishes are or were, everyone should get together and discuss how they would like the person to be remembered, that way, if the family is present, no one feels left out or uninformed.
Possibly the POA document gives the authority to make the arrangements and is well within the authority of the POA to prepay for the funeral before the principal dies.
My mom doesn't want to be laid out, she said a simple goodbye about an hour is all she wants, but the granddaughter said she will do what she wants., just wanting to know if she has the right as poa to do the arrangements, or is it up to her son and daughter
So sorry the Grandaughter can't come together with the group, to honor her wishes as a family. Unless she has the right to act as Grandmothers legal designated responsible party (legal document stating so), the "final resting" decisions are to be made by her adult children, now if no such documents exist, I just don't know, but look to Grandma's Will. Still, Anyone can host a memorial service.