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It really is no different then when the one we're caring for dies, as we not only grieve their loss, but we also lose our sense of purpose. I remember after my husband died last Sept.(after I cared for him for many many years in our home)I felt very lost and wandered around my home for several months wondering what it was that I was now supposed to be doing with myself, as my "purpose" was no longer there, and so I had to find a new purpose, which eventually I did. So give yourself time. Allow yourself time to grieve, and rest, and then start to look at the bright side that your husband is now in a facility where he is receiving the 24/7 care he needs, and you can get back to just being his advocate and loving wife. It's going to be ok. There is light on the other side of the tunnel. God bless you.
It is so difficult to finally make the decision to place your LO in memory care. I, too, had to make that decision for my wife. That takes courage. It takes understanding of the disease, and it takes the realization you can no longer provide the care he needs. The grief you experience now is a combination of many feelings and emotions. The fact that you are separated, the hope that he will be well cared for, the realization that he will never be coming home, and finally the the heart wrenching thought that he will live his last days in MC. It's tough. The grief you are feeling now is a natural emotion to the separation and the uncertainty of the future. You've passed the torch of caregiving to someone else, but you are still his advocate. Get to know the staff so you are comfortable in discussing your husband's care with them.
Please don't think you've lost your sense of purpose. He is still your husband and he needs your love, your companionship, your touch. Visit often and don't let his disease dictate your visits. Some people say what's the use of visiting. He can no longer recognize me. He can no longer converse. All he does is sleep. But he may still know your voice. He can still feel your touch. He will know that someone still cares.
You will still ask yourself “who am I without him?” We don't grieve until something special is lost, initially their companionship, and eventually their life. Your grief and pain validates the significance of your relationship. It's not too early to begin reading about grief and/or to seek grief counseling.
“Getting to the Other Side of Grief, Overcoming the Loss of a Spouse” is an excellent book on grief recovery. You may think it's too early for this book because your husband is still in MC, but it's not. See if your local library has it or order it from Amazon. My thoughts are with you. I wish you well.
You have not lost your sense of purpose. But it has changed. You are now not "just" a caregiver you are an advocate. Sometimes that can be a more difficult role because so many things are out of your direct control. Much of the grief we have while a caregiver is anticipatory grief. All the decline you see day to day is like loosing someone bit by bit. That is very difficult. But in Memory Care you may see a more pronounced decline and that is like loosing them by chunks, not bit by bit. Someone else will be doing a lot of the things that you did so you might not notice a small decline and then "all of a sudden" it will seem like there is a big decline. Placing someone in Memory Care is not something that you all of a sudden decided to do. There is great thought and angst in that decision so it must have been made for a very good reason. Bottom line is you made the decision for his best interest and safety. Keep that in mind.
I thought I would feel mostly relief when I placed my husband in MC 7 weeks ago, but most of what I felt was grief and brokenness. I feel lost. I visit him everyday, watching him decline and feeling helpless. The other day, I was hugging him and said, "Want to dance?" He smiled and started to shuffle a little. Precious moment - so few and far between - but it gave me a tiny bit of peace. I'm praying for you, JSunny, that God will send you tiny moments of peace in this sad, sad journey we are going through.
Lots of good advice here !!! many of us had to make this difficult heartbreaking decision and it takes lots of time and grief to realize we didn’t have any other good option. a good MC has lots of advantages. it’s a safe place … meds will be organized … lots of people taking care and doing all the required grunt work . Activities and opportunities to interact socialize not isolated at home . We need visit everyday or as often as you can .. get to know staff… bring presents and treats …. you’re now making new memories of a loving wife and relationship instead of an exhausted frustrated caregiver. there are no perfect options for dementia !!! best luck
No. Because caring for my mom is still a lot of work, even though she is in Long-term Care.
With visits, phone calls, Google calls, checking in with the nurses, social workers, and Activities staff, making sure that her bills are paid, etc., it is still a full-time job.
Placing someone in a care facility does not mean that you stop caring for them.
Oh yes. Me too! My moms in assisted living..no one gets that I as POA/daughter do all her shopping, MD calls/visits, incontinence needs that she likes best, pages and pages of forms, walker repairs, searches for “lost” items, dental visits, mri days, massage visits for sore muscles, interactions with nurse and CNA , weekly church days, and social visits.. and much more. Mine is a 24 hr a week job…done joyfully but still tiring at 70 {moms 88}….our job goes on even after a placement. This is not an easy way out at all!
I think you are hurting and feeling guilty because you saw what was happening to the person's mind and you were helpless. That is a horrible and sad feeling and would push anyone who cares over the edge. I do NOT think you are upset because they are in memory care but you are upset about the reason for them being there - dementia. You did the only right thing you could have done. What else could you do? You can't fix them and they will destroy you with their needs and behaviors. You did the right thing.
I knew I couldn't take care of my friend and couldn't get visiting nurses to his apartment because of the red tape of healthcare and the Covid 19 situation. He needed 24/7 medical attention so I had to make arrangements to get him into a long term care facility that I had the Power of Attorney. I was told many times since he had no family left at 86 years old without me, he'd be in a hell of a situation.
I didn't put my LOs in memory care or any facility. We found an apartment, because that is what they wanted and now my sister who lives in the same building, sees to them. I had them for almost a year, it was complete and utter torture. And this makes me feel shame and regret and guilt. It has been 3 weeks since they moved out. I do not miss them, but I worry about them, and now when I go to enjoy something, I feel guilt, because I feel bad that they cannot enjoy it too. I hate the emotions during their stay with me and, the emotions now that they are gone. I pray and hope, that with time, I will be able to forget about it all and be able to go through one day, without pop ups in my head of them, which cause me anxiety. I do not understand how this whole experience, all of this, can cause so much anxiety. All I want is to forget about the whole past year and them. That year was nothing but them.
How can 2 old people be so destructive to the human mind? I read the posts regularly on this forum and everyone is experiencing the same or worse. How can the elderly mind be so powerful to do this to their caregivers? And why are we so weak to it? What are they, Aliens, come to take over the planet?
I want and need to know how to get them out of my head quickly :)
I know exactly how you feel. I had to place my husband in Memory care 1 year ago and believe me it was the hardest thing I had to do. I knew I had to, I just couldn't take care of him any longer. He's getting the care I couldn't give him and seems to be content with his living arrangements. He tells me if he can come home when he gets better and of course he can. I know that is not possible. I visit him every other day and he's happy with my visits. The whole situation has taken a toll on me. I have the responsibility of doing everything and that is quite a challenge. I do what I can and the rest can wait until I get to it. Don't beat yourself up with the tough decision you had to make, it was for the best, for you and your loved one. Take one day at a time and do what you can and if you can't do something one day, then do it the next. Remember, to take time for yourself and don't feel guilty about your decision. I'm grateful we have a place and people to care for our loved ones when we can't. Praying for you and wishing you the best. Don't be discouraged!
Transitions can be hard. Your days don't involve the same activities or have the same people in them. Allow yourself time to "feel", to heal, and to decide on the next steps in this new stage of your life.
Yes…I also felt it..I got counseling for Anticipatory Grief.. a very real problem…grieving before someone dies. I grieved the loss of my mom..this new mom is her body but not really my mom. We no longer have deep mom and daughter conversations. My life is putting out fires for her….filling her needs.. After 12 therapy sessions I felt so much better.Now I can face what will happen in the future. Give it a try. Mine was mostly paid for by medicare.
No, because I know she is getting better care than I could provide, and I can visit as a daughter not a carer, the house seemed a bit strange for a while with not having the cooking and other necessary chores determined by another person, but there is visiting to do now so not grief or loss of purpose. However I can totally empathise with those who do feel grief or loss of purpose as it does not arise in a carer situation only. I hope that for them visiting and seeing their loved ones cared for helps them move on, find things to do, and get their own lives back in the way they would like them to be for the future.
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I. How We Work in Washington.
Based on your preferences, we provide you with information about one or more of our contracted senior living providers ("Participating Communities") and provide your Senior Living Care Information to Participating Communities. The Participating Communities may contact you directly regarding their services.
APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
II. How We Are Paid.
We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
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I remember after my husband died last Sept.(after I cared for him for many many years in our home)I felt very lost and wandered around my home for several months wondering what it was that I was now supposed to be doing with myself, as my "purpose" was no longer there, and so I had to find a new purpose, which eventually I did.
So give yourself time. Allow yourself time to grieve, and rest, and then start to look at the bright side that your husband is now in a facility where he is receiving the 24/7 care he needs, and you can get back to just being his advocate and loving wife.
It's going to be ok. There is light on the other side of the tunnel. God bless you.
Please don't think you've lost your sense of purpose. He is still your husband and he needs your love, your companionship, your touch. Visit often and don't let his disease dictate your visits. Some people say what's the use of visiting. He can no longer recognize me. He can no longer converse. All he does is sleep. But he may still know your voice. He can still feel your touch. He will know that someone still cares.
You will still ask yourself “who am I without him?” We don't grieve until something special is lost, initially their companionship, and eventually their life. Your grief and pain validates the significance of your relationship. It's not too early to begin reading about grief and/or to seek grief counseling.
“Getting to the Other Side of Grief, Overcoming the Loss of a Spouse” is an excellent book on grief recovery. You may think it's too early for this book because your husband is still in MC, but it's not. See if your local library has it or order it from Amazon. My thoughts are with you. I wish you well.
You are now not "just" a caregiver you are an advocate. Sometimes that can be a more difficult role because so many things are out of your direct control.
Much of the grief we have while a caregiver is anticipatory grief. All the decline you see day to day is like loosing someone bit by bit. That is very difficult. But in Memory Care you may see a more pronounced decline and that is like loosing them by chunks, not bit by bit. Someone else will be doing a lot of the things that you did so you might not notice a small decline and then "all of a sudden" it will seem like there is a big decline.
Placing someone in Memory Care is not something that you all of a sudden decided to do. There is great thought and angst in that decision so it must have been made for a very good reason. Bottom line is you made the decision for his best interest and safety. Keep that in mind.
many of us had to make this difficult heartbreaking decision and it takes lots of time and grief to realize we didn’t have any other good option.
a good MC has lots of advantages.
it’s a safe place … meds will be organized … lots of people taking care and doing all the required grunt work . Activities and opportunities to interact socialize not isolated at home . We need visit everyday or as often as you can .. get to know staff… bring presents and treats ….
you’re now making new memories of a loving wife and relationship instead of an exhausted frustrated
caregiver.
there are no perfect options for dementia !!!
best luck
With visits, phone calls, Google calls, checking in with the nurses, social workers, and Activities staff, making sure that her bills are paid, etc., it is still a full-time job.
Placing someone in a care facility does not mean that you stop caring for them.
I had them for almost a year, it was complete and utter torture. And this makes me feel shame and regret and guilt. It has been 3 weeks since they moved out. I do not miss them, but I worry about them, and now when I go to enjoy something, I feel guilt, because I feel bad that they cannot enjoy it too. I hate the emotions during their stay with me and, the emotions now that they are gone. I pray and hope, that with time, I will be able to forget about it all and be able to go through one day, without pop ups in my head of them, which cause me anxiety. I do not understand how this whole experience, all of this, can cause so much anxiety. All I want is to forget about the whole past year and them. That year was nothing but them.
How can 2 old people be so destructive to the human mind? I read the posts regularly on this forum and everyone is experiencing the same or worse. How can the elderly mind be so powerful to do this to their caregivers? And why are we so weak to it? What are they, Aliens, come to take over the planet?
I want and need to know how to get them out of my head quickly :)
Don't beat yourself up with the tough decision you had to make, it was for the best, for you and your loved one. Take one day at a time and do what you can and if you can't do something one day, then do it the next. Remember, to take time for yourself and don't feel guilty about your decision. I'm grateful we have a place and people to care for our loved ones when we can't.
Praying for you and wishing you the best. Don't be discouraged!