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Valentine, what I experienced with my mom was that the neurologist appointments were too long and it stressed her to the max. Would would the outcome of this test mean for your mom? If he is not combative and just goes along with her daily activities, what is the point? My understanding was that if a person was diagnosed with dementia/etc that the earlier the patient was treated the more successful the MEDS would be. I, personally, would not subject my parent to any torture (which is equal to stress in their minds) if the outcome was not really going to change anything. My mom had a brain bleed, neurosurgeon wanted to operate. The neurologist came in and said to me, can they operate, yes. Should they operate, only I could answer that question if it would drastically change the quality of life, put my mom thru the stress and pain of a brain operation, subject her to many other infections, etc. you get my point. I am all for medically helping our loved ones but there comes a point where you have to decide if it is actually worth it.
My dad's primary care doc gave him a dementia test in the office. He knew the date, day of the week, got a little confused on the season of the year, but the last part was to remember 3 words. Hat, tree and book. 5 minutes later he couldn't remember them. Then he suggested a neurological workup. He failed 14 of 30 questions she asked. As far as I'm concerned, I know he has dementia and it will progress. I see no point in having him repeat testing as it upsets him. I guess an initial diagnosis by cognitive testing, but to retest when you know what they have is just upsetting to the patient. My own opinion!
My mom was about 82 and diagnosed with a Triple A. She also had dementia and was in rehab due to a fall. She had broken her hip and had surgery. It was determined right after that that she had a Triple A. Her primary doc wanted to operate. I asked him if her mind would be better after the surgery. Well, no. Will her quality of life improve after surgery? Well, no. Then why would you want to operate on her? She could bleed out and be gone in just a few minutes. So I should have her undergo surgery and experience the pain and chance of infection after surgery? She lasted another 2 1/2 years, still in the nursing home because she could not/would not walk again. She still had dementia, but every time I visited, she was smiling. We watched TV, played bingo, went to listen to the music, attended birthday parties and yes, eventually the Triple A did rupture. She was taken right next door to the hospital within 10 minutes. They did surgery to repair it, but all her organs were shutting down. She never came out of anesthesia. Sometimes you have to weight the pros and cons and put yourself in their shoes. It's a hard position to be in, but when you're an only child, you just do what you have to do to make your parents' lives more comfortable.
Thank you for answering my questions valentinepuppy. Your response puts a new spin on the issue, as I think that what you are saying is that the POA, trustee, family is pushing for these tests while the Physician sees no reason for them. Well, I believe that the POA is looking for reasons to gain more control over Moms finances, bank accounts, etc. and must provide some type of medical proof that Mom is completely unable to take care of any of these matters on her own any longer. If the Doctor says in writing that he hasn't seen any changes, you put in writing the same. If the POA, trustee, etc. keeps pressuring you, than contact an elder attorney, they know exactly what to say to make the family back down, especially when Moms Doctor is in agreement with you.
valentinepuppy, to find an elder attorney, I would call the county surrogate's office. They can recommend a good one to you. Or, if you don't want to do that, ask friends and such.
this is called a Mini Mental and is a very rough estimate of the progress of demential. Real testing by a neuropsychologist takes several hours (I thought that's what you were talking about) but this is a fast and easy way of seeing if there is progression. Is your father upset by this testing? Is he on meds for anxiety/depression?
.Dad is almost 95 and knows that his memory is slipping. He got upset at the primary doctor's office, then at the Neurologist, he got even more upset. His meds are for blood pressure and thyroid. The Neurologist wanted him to take a memory med, but both the primary care doc and myself thought at almost 95, meds wouldn't help. I watch him for signs that he's getting worse and so far he's not. I just can't see upsetting him by testing that would take several hours only to be told that he has dementia. We know that. As does he.
No, I"m not suggesting a neuropsych work up. What upsets him? Is he asking the score? Is it just his memory that is slipping or is he becoming more anxious and agitated about other things as well?
Thank you caregiver4all. Helps to hear some of my wonders reinforced as possibilities. I have been seeking an elder attorney...and you convince me that the timing is now. Who is the next question?
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Based on your preferences, we provide you with information about one or more of our contracted senior living providers ("Participating Communities") and provide your Senior Living Care Information to Participating Communities. The Participating Communities may contact you directly regarding their services.
APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
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We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour.
APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
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