My mom has now moved in with us as she can't live alone any longer. Probably mid stage dementia. Her narcissistic personality disorder has always been challenging, but with dementia it's like throwing gasoline on a fire. Is anyone else dealing with this?
How am I doing? Saw an attorney yesterday to sign paperwork to protect my folks assess. I put up 1000.00 of my money used the money my folks gave me selling my fathers guns to pay for this. Granted I have no income at this time or insurance I need money for my medicine. Trying to explain what I'm doing to help them is futile my father is so suspicious of everyone, now I'm the target once again by him to verbally abuse. Called my folks to check on them yesterday they told me that my mothers wallet is missing and they suspect Linda the care nurse. No matter how I phrase a question no matter what my tone my father and mother will fire back hateful assault, blaming accusing me now. My father now says he never told me to take those guns, he's angry I sold them he wants the money for them to pay for some doctors bills of which I have no idea what doctors bills they are referring to. Unless the bills are for calling the ambulances to get my mother off the floor. My heart is broken my own father accusing me of taking what he agreed I should sell those guns to pay for my trip back home. Everyone including his doctor knew I was leaving with them with my fathers approval. Dementia or not he has always been this way his sisters tell me the same thing about him. I will finish getting all of their legal work done hopefully it will be enough money to get them in a place till they die, after that I want nothing further to do with them. I've had so many doctors tell me to let them go they are so toxic. After the treatment I received last night I am done. Crying I got off the phone telling him to stop it this is too painful for me to listen to, he called me back later to insult me even further. I left them in better shape than I found them, my father has done nothing but complain as well as try to undo everything I set up to help them. I'm in worse shape than when I left to help them. As far a I'm concerned the state can have them. My health is in jeopardy if something serious happens to me it could take my life's savings.
Ephesians 6:4 Fathers, do not provoke your children to anger by the way you treat them. Rather, bring them up with the discipline and instruction that comes from the Lord.
Yes is also goes not to say do not make your children bitter towards life!
We don't hear this verse very much, yet the guilt I feel hearing all the time to honor my parents who act dishonorably to be is shaming.
There is nothing I can say or do that my narcissist father doesn't find fault with. My fathers doctor ask me to please get his guns from him. So I spoke to my father on several occasions all letting it be his idea. The morning I drove back 1260 miles to Texas he gave the guns he wanted me to have. He kept checking rechecking not sure what he gave me. So over 5 times while I was trying to pack the car I showed him over and over again these are what you gave me to sell, I said do you want the money he said no just let me know what you sell them for. Within 24hrs they were sold for 1800.00 he's pissed at me now and wants the money saying he never told me I could take them and doesn't even know what I took. He told me to sell them because I lost my job and it would help to pay for my trip up and back. Just hearing his voice makes my heart raise I have anxiety start. Anything I say he try's to make it fight. He won't take my mother to the her doctor. He won't see his doctor any longer because he says I made begged his doctor to but things into a letter for the attorney that made him look crazy! He is CRAZY AND IT'S NOT JUST THE DEMENTIA! After the verbal assassination I received last night from him I broke into tears. I had just sent the morning with yet another attorney trying to get his veterans pension. He was livid when I told him want it cost. I put up 1000.00 and gave the attorney the money for the guns 1800.00 plus 2000.00 guilt money the parents gave me when I lost my job. I'm trying to protect their assesses there will be no inheritance and now I have no job or insurance with medical issue of my own. I told him I couldn't listen to him any longer it was hurting me to much to here him talk to me this way. I hung up called my aunt she said get your money back like the attorney said repay yourself then leave them alone for a while their mentally ill and this is killing you THANK YOU VALIDATION!!!!!! Then in the middle of the phone call my father calls again sound really sweet than starts to tell my off in a monotone voice with at stiletto tongue of his, I've apologized for my behavior losing my temper when I was there 2 months ago over and over. I've forgiven you please stop beating my up shaming me. Jesus said if you can't forgive how can you expect the Lord to forgive you! Then my dad said he wasn't going to call me anymore, that I didn't have to even come to there funerals. I'm not available for his abuse any longer I reimburse myself, if he finds out I will tell yep I sure did!!!!!!!!!
I'm going to be setting boundaries with them that they are not going to like but that's to bad, it's for their own financial good and my mental health. The director is going to my folks house she says to explain that they need to comply with letting people help if not the judge will place them in a nursing home. Will just see how that goes, but no it's not ok for them to treat me the way they have, I've lost my patience with them as well so we are in a cool down period. Unfortunately the agency told me my father took a bad fall cut himself. When my father called to apologize for his behavior he didn't tell me this it's his pride. They are getting worse this is obvious I'm at a true cross roads and am seeking guidance from spiritual realm to light my path as to which way will best work for us all. Thank you for commenting. I truly feel this is a hideous disease stealing the dignity and self identity of those suffering. Destroying relationships job lost and compromises the care givers health as well. Best wish to you all caring for you loved one God Bless!
After she went into the NH I bought a wee run down cottage on 2 acres in the country for me and my pets. I've lived here for almost a year now and still feel like I'm "in recovery" but I'm getting better. I plunged into renovating and gardening, cried a lot, sometimes drank too much and basically stayed away from the outside world. If it wasn't for my beloved dogs I'd probably have had a breakdown. Come spring, along with trying a little homesteading, I plan to look into volunteer work, get back into the world and rebuild my life. It's a long hard road but I'm getting there.
God Bless you all
Figuring out strategies and finding peace has been extremely challenging. One positive thing about this is that all of the soul searching--and it's truly grueling work!--has ultimately been an enormously awakening, liberating thing. I recognized her as a narcissist (and just plain b----) only within the last few months. I asked myself out loud one day not long ago, after wrestling with anxiety, loss of sleep, anger, bad memories that I thought I had reconciled, tremendous sadness, confusion, etc. -- if I'd ever actually 'turn the corner' and arrive at a calm, peaceful state. Where I felt that I had an accurate grasp on things, where I could finally, stop being angry/hurt/resentful/fearful/brokenhearted.
Guess what? This morning was the first morning in maybe 6+ months where I woke up, and didn't immediately think about HER with that awful feeling of dread and panic. Maybe 3 or 4 mundane thoughts into my waking up, she came to mind, and my body, heart, and mind stayed calm. Here's hoping this attitude is my new permanent habit!
I am fairly certain that, as soon as I can manage it, I will eventually stop visiting altogether. I'll probably wait until her memory is at the point where she doesn't notice, but will adjust my plans as necessary in order to avoid the insults and other b.s.. In the past 6 months, although my visits have increased for medical reasons, I've stopped the overnight visits and only go on brief day trips (she lives a 3 hour drive away). I made excuses for not visiting on Thanksgiving and Christmas, and it was such relief. My phone calls to her are now less than 5 minutes in length, and I only call once every 7-10 days or so. She's never called me, so thank goodness, I don't have to worry about that.
She was irritated that I would not be staying for more than a few hours (instead of happy that, after a 50 hour work week, I had driven 3 hours to see her, and would drive 3 hours back home), and said "I can see how this is cutting into your leisure time." She then actually did me a favor by suggesting that I not come down if I could only do so for such a short time.
This all occurred this past Saturday, and it's now Wednesday, so even though I've made tremendous progress dealing with her (especially in the moment, I handle things very well now), it still takes me several days to get her b.s. out of my system. I've decided to accept her offer, and will no longer angst over trying to make more time for longer visits. And I have no plans for our regular phone call for at least another week (even 5 minutes on the phone is something I dread).
I'm actively NOT referring to her as 'mom', 'my mother' anymore--I suggest this, I think it helps somehow. Dementia aside, she is a sick, unloving person, and always has been. Her dislike of me is obvious, and my increased presence is not something the enjoys (makes 2 of us!). She likes attention and an audience, and I have been very good about providing that to her over my life, but she has no respect or graciousness towards me (or everyone else too pretty much), that it makes continuing a relationship just... so pathetic and soul-killing.
I couldn't have found this at a more appropriate time. I have once again "heard" from my brother stories of mom throwing me under the bus. I just shake my head and think, "this is her mental illness, not mine". Sad
It truly is empowering to manage rather than to be managed.
I am grateful for the folks on this site who continue to offer support, and I am grateful for the folks on this site who reach out for help. It feels good to turn this lifetime experience around in such a way that helps others -- that is, non-narcisstic people -- too!
The scary thing is, I think she really believes it. She's gotten very paranoid and her listening skills were never very good. If she's not the one doing the talking, she just tunes out.
She used to preen herself and boast that she was "an academic and an intellectual," I guess because she was a college professor, and brag about how attractive she was, compared to her sister. Classic narcissist, IMO. Dementia must be terrifying to someone who prided themselves on their intellect. I feel sorry for her in that respect. I'd feel sorrier if she hadn't been horrible to me for the past three decades.
She's a classic narcissist, to the point that she wore a white, lacey dress to my wedding, and later boasted to me that people told her that she looked like she was the bride!
Anyway, what I've learned is that it's a losing battle to try and explain anything to her, because she always has to be right, and she often doesn't listen to what other people are saying. When my husband tried to tell her that he wanted her to keep her independence as long as possible because he knew she didn't want to go into a nursing home, all she heard was "nursing home," and she went off on him. She's also starting to drop the F-bomb a lot, something she rarely did before. She bad-mouths my husband's late father and one of her former boyfriends, both of whom she says had dozens of affairs, which I doubt. She claims my late FIL was secretly gay, and says many hurtful things about him to my husband that are complete fabrications, as far as I can tell.
In short, my MIL is a nightmare, and I have no intention of offering to help her any more unless she asks for my help. We've put her on a waiting list for a nursing home, and I'm looking forward to the day when she's installed there. She totally burned her bridges with me. I frankly wouldn't care if she were shot out of a cannon at this point.
They can't hide it anymore and it is such a strong personality type that it just seems to get worse instead of changing.
It also makes it very difficult to see that the dementia is happening because you are used to the trait vrs people that do not have the disorder and start to show signs of anger or paranoia or lack of emotional caring which for them is unusual.
My brother and I clued in that something was wrong earlier on because she was forgetting how to do things that she has done for 30 or 40 years, and while we noticed the changes in her behavior it was more like she reverted back into the mom we grew up with, while she had managed over the years to cover it up well we had not seen it to the degree it was manifesting for 20 years or so prier, but we didn't attribute that to memory issues at the time, but looking back on it...it makes sense.
The Dr suggested that it was very likely our mom is not ever going to come out of the behavior set completely, so we have had to resort to medications which are actually helping to some degree. She is taking Citalorpram and Donepezil .
I actually had hoped not to use medication, but it got to much to handle, so here we are...and I'm glad for it to be honest, and while it has not stopped her from being her it at least has toned it down a bit.
Sorry have not have time to read other replies so I hope I have not answered as someone else has.