My mother has struggled with depression for some time since my younger sister died in 2001, and my father, to whom she was married for 53 years, passed away about a year and a half ago. The depression is worsened by chronic pain from arthritis and her unwillingness to take an antidepressant (she says they make her feel "funny"). I live about two hours away, and I call two or three times a week and visit about every two weeks or so. She offers her opinion on what I eat, what I wear, how I cut my hair, my weight, my makeup, my vehicle...the list goes on and on. She's unhappy because I never got married and had kids, so she has no grandchildren. She also complains because I moved away and I'm not there to help her. (She says I do more for other people than I do for her.) She also constantly complains about everything. I know her criticisms don't make any difference to who I am as a person, and I do what I want regardless because I know it's impossible to please her. Sometimes the constant comments wear me down, and I don't know what to say in response. I think I need to do a better job of setting healthy boundaries as far as what she says to me. Any suggestions are appreciated.
Unfortunately, as I have learned, there is nothing I can do. I got to the point many, many years ago where I realized that it has NOTHING to do with me & EVERYTHING to do with her. Now, when she says something like "I don't like your hair color----I liked your old hair color better" or "I don't like what you're wearing---it doesn't look right", my response to her is "You don't have to like it. I like it & that's all that matters." And, that is the mantra I live by---SHE DOESN'T HAVE TO LIKE IT!! There have been times when she's said things like "You have too much blush on!!" and "You have too much eye makeup on" (she is a fan of the "natural look"---pale skin, no eye makeup, nothing). My response to those comments are usually things like "That's a shame that you don't like it", or "I like it", or "That's terrible" or "Thank you." In the past, she has even gone to the point where she says "You look like a hooker with your eyeliner" (mind you, I don't wear a big thick line of black eyeliner around my eyes---my eye makeup is very well done & not excessive at all). She is EXTREMELY critical of me, and always has been. Perhaps I've gotten to the point where I don't really care about what she says, LOL! That, quite honestly, is a very freeing thing. When you're happy with who & what you are, and you don't care about what others think of your hair or makeup or the food you eat or your shoes, you are in a good place.
It is very sad that they can't find something positive to talk about, to make them happy instead of miserable all the time. With my mother, I think the main problem is that she has no hobbies, nothing to occupy her mind & so she sits there & she is always thinking about things. She works herself up about things that haven't even happened. But, at 86 years old, I am not going to change her at this point. She did go on an antidepressant medication about 7 years ago, & it did help her. She is very sensitive to medications, so increasing the dosage is not an option now. Maybe your mother could try a different antidepressant---they work differently, and if one makes her feel "funny", that doesn't mean that they will all make her feel funny. The thing is, I have noticed that people like this don't want to take an antidepressant because they enjoy being the way they are, & they don't think anything is wrong with them----they think the problem is with everyone else. Remember, they enjoy criticizing & many people enjoy complaining.
It is a choice to be negative. It sucks to be depressed, and many elderly people don't want to do anything to help themselves. I know that my mother actually enjoys the pity she generates by complaining-----but, now the entire family & all of her friends have greatly decreased the sympathy they give to her because they're tired of hearing the same things repeatedly. They quickly get off the phone instead of being a participant at the "pity party".
I was able to cope with my mother's complaints & criticisms when I finally realized that it was her, not me. I let the complaints & criticisms roll right off my back, like water on a duck. I refuse to let her negativity bring me down----and I've told her that. I have told her to her face that people don't like being around others who are constantly negative & complaining all the time. But, she doesn't get it.
As far as your mother complaining about the fact that you're not married & have no kids, you should let her know that complaining about those things isn't going to change anything. You might also tell her that if you had kids they wouldn't want to be around her anyway because she's so negative. If you moved away because of a job or other life circumstance, that's how it is. You should ask her for specifics when she says that you do more for other people than you do for her---and ask her what she would like you to do for her. My mother pulls that crap too----and she lives with me!!!
The thing I always try to remember is that I will not allow my mother's negativity to rub off on me & make me miserable & depressed & like her. When my mother starts on a run of complaining about everything, I put distance between us---I sit in another room, go outside, find something to do or grab my car keys to do some grocery shopping. My mother is very particular, very demanding, & very impatient. Those problems are not my problems, they're her problems. If she is not willing to "own" them, I can't do it for her, nor will I change for her. I am a patient person, very tolerant & accepting. My mother is a very nervous person with a lot of anxiety all the time. I cannot change that. She says "I am a nervous person & I always have been", but she is not willing to do anything about it or try to change it. I have realized those are the problems & I am not the problem. So, I just let her bitch & complain all she wants---it has no effect on me. I often think that when she complains, it's just because she wants to complain about something just for the sake of complaining!
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.... It is hard sometimes, and I feel drained at the effort. Sometimes she will say something mean or that something I did wasn't good enough, and I turn around and gently tell her how it sounds to me. Then she says it in a better way and tells me how much she loves me. Then there was the morning when she told me about a little dog she had when she was little, and how it ran away... tears streamed down her face as she related her story... the pain she had as a little girl. Finally her mother told her that the dog had been killed by a car. I could not help but hug her and feel what she was feeling, and I cried along with her. This is forgiveness... the kind of peace it gives me is beyond words... and I am whole again."
They also lose ALL their filters, and can't tell whether they have thought something or said something. Just know you're not alone and look for the humor in every situation.
I have a question. Does your mother have a regular Physician? What is her trust level with the physician? It might be good for you to sit in a doctor's visit and voice your concerns. If she does not have a regular physician, then the trust level is removed and you have nowhere to turn but walk away every time she starts her rants. It sounds like she is living alone. No one can live with constant complaining.
I wish you well in finding a solution to your problem. I guess you should thank you lucky stars you are not living with her and going crazy with trying to help her. This is not a one sided world. You have your rights and your life...You can walk away.
Do you wish to be right or happy?
Once you make that choice, the rest will follow.
Vacillating back & forth is the mind's way of choosing fear.
We always knew that mom had some type of mental problems, although she was never diagnosed and in addition, she began showing signs of dementia 8 years ago. After dad's death, we took mom, against her will, to a doctor, to be evaluated. She was diagnosed with bi-polar, compulsive disorder and also with Lewy Body Dementia. She had gotten to the point before we took her to the doctor, that she was now a harm to herself and others. Mom is now in a wonderful memory care facility close to me and my sisters. We visit often. Mom's personality has not changed! She still tries to be in control and manipulative. The visits are very difficult on us. I have given you all of this background information so that I can tell you how we have learned to respond and get through dealing with her personality. We have sought counseling for ourselves in order to understand her illness and how to cope with the situation. I have to disassociate myself as "her daughter" and connect with her as someone who is there to help. Her negative comments and hurtful words do not effect me in the same way because I now see her as not being in control of how her brain and heart/emotions are working. I have been told that her personality may never change. As an older adult, I have tried over the years to approach my responses to her in many different ways. She would never think that how she talked to us or treated us was wrong in any way and that she was in control and she demanded that everything was done her way. My sisters and I were in my parent's home for 3 months, 24/7 caring for my dad before he died. My mom at that point could not take care of him, but in her mind she was still in control of "her home" and did not understand why we needed to help. Although caring for dad was the joy of our lives and was such a sweet time to be with him, mom physically and verbally "fought" us at every turn. We did what we had to do to help dad and then got mom the help that she needed. Over the years, mom always refused to go to the doctor when my dad would suggest it. Mom never learned to drive, so when I took her to her yearly doctor's appointment 8 years ago, I met with her doctor alone while she was in the examining room. I explained her symptoms and sought his help. The doctor prescribed a medication, but she only took it once and refused to ever take any medication other than her vitamins, because "they made her feel strange". She always responded with "there is nothing wrong with me I am just fine!" Now we look beyond her illness and find ways to help her be calm. We never disagree with her. (Disagreeing adds fuel to the fire.) If she says that "the sky is purple", then we respond with "wow, isn't that something!." If we cannot disagree, then we do not respond at all. We try to always distract a negative comment with a wonderful compliment on the way she is dressed or how wonderful her hairstyle looks. She loves to be complimented! Right now, with her dementia, it is easier to distract her from negative reactions by asking her to talk about her parents or a story that she remembers about her childhood. This usually makes about 5 minutes of a peaceful visit. She may come back with comments such as "you are treating me awful, or you don't love me, you never did." We always try to hug her, kiss her on the cheek and remind her that we do love her and always will and of course in our hearts we will because she is our mother. I am so thankful for my sisters and that we have been each other's support through this life's challenge with my mom. Having some support of any kind can be a huge help for you. It helps to be able to talk it out with someone. I think from your comments that you already know that your mom's situation has nothing to do with anything that you have been responsible for. It is an illness that you are responding to. These difficult situations are what I call "character building" and will leave you with an empathetic heart towards others that you can encourage along the way. You will be in my prayers. :)
But DETACH!
To add to the collection already amassed (!) -
My mother, when wearying of complaints or bad news or hand-wringing, would chip in "… and the goal is but the grave!" with a deep theatrical sigh at the end. It's a quotation from one of the more morbid Victorian poets, I think - must look it up some time.
Say "I know what you need!" and offer to get her the complete Radiohead collection.
Do a Trotsky vs. Stalin and repeat each complaint with rising intonation e.g. "that hairstyle is terrible" "this hairstyle is terrible?" The original goes "I was wrong. You were right. I should apologise." Which becomes "I was wrong? You were right? I should ***apologise***???"
When they know they have just annoyed me, my children give me a cheeky peek and say "I love you Mummy :)" Now of course I am always reasonable and my complaints are invariably valid, but even so… This might be useful as an occasional tonic for your mother's spirits, you never know.
Try not to get annoyed with her. I used to get irritated to the point of arguing with my mother about her negativity, and my God what a waste of breath and temper that was. Plus it just gives me one more thing to regret. So try not to do that.
You need to set boundaries for yourself about how much you'll be exposed to this. But Bob, the ever wise Jeannegibbs and all of the others had it right. "Agreeing" with her, just being kind but not responding to her negativity - that sort of response will likely be less wearing in the long run than fighting against it.
Keep reaching out for support. Many here have similar situations to cope with.
We're with you,
Carol
Im not sure whether your Mum has dementia - if so it will in all likelihood get worse as the disease progresses so be prepared on that one.
Stay strong and confident. When she starts say mum I have rung you to have a pleasant chat not to hear you berate me so I am going to hang up now and I will ring again tomorrow . Hang up and then as Old Bob says. You have to protect yourself and negativity is incredibly draining
Antidepressants are not the answer, as they have been proven time and time again to be ineffective... and yes.... they DO make her feel funny. Believe it or not, FISH OIL has been proven to be far more effective in dealing with depression than prescription anti-depressants.
Your mother is lonely, and seems like she does not have a large circle of friends to support her.
I took care of both parents for over a decade, and I my dad could often be critical as you describe. Just remember, it it not about you at all, and often when they lash out, it is because they are afraid of their own mortality, and their own disappointments with themselves.
For you... just do the best you can do, and simply be mindful that she is probably struggling in her own way to deal with things. I also wish you the best, and keep your courage and simply love her where she's at.
Or just ignore her. Change the subject. Hear your doorbell ringing. Smell something burning in the kitchen. Gottoa go Mom. Love you. Goodbye.
Or kill her with kindness. Poor lady. The combination of depression and chronic pain is truly pitiful. Hug her. Tell her how sorry you are that she isn't well. Tell her what a great job she did in raising you to live independently and follow your own path. Thank her for that. Bring her little gifts. Of course they will be the wrong color or the wrong size or too glitzy or too plain, so be sure they are things you can take home. "Oh, I'm so sorry that this African Violet will be too much trouble for you to take care of. I didn't think of that. I'll just take it back home so you don't have to bother with it. Shall we go out shopping and pick out something for you together?" Between visits send cheery thinking-of-you cards.
Or Distract her. Change the subject. "I really miss Dad. I know it is even worse for you. What is your all-time favorite memory of him?" "What was your own mother like when she was your age?" "Sometimes I think of Sis and smile. Remember the time she ..." "You don't like my car? Well, I think it suits me. What was the first car you and Daddy owned? Did you help pick it out?" "What were you doing for fun when you were my age?"
Her constant complaints are her problem. Don't let them become your problem. You seem to have a very sensible attitude, and I suspect you cope better than average. Every time you visit, plan a little reward for yourself when you get home!
You may want to try telling her about your own gratitude list of just the nice things in your life: live in a free country, have enough money to live on,
the beautiful sunshine on many days, rain enough most of the time to nourish the plants, a decent car to drive, and so on...Perhaps she might list some good things in her life.
Another "trick" is to try to counter each complaint with, "Oh, mom, I never noticed that nice knick knack on the side table before...It is so pretty."
HardAxx dept: "Mom, when you say things like that it makes me feel bad.
You have complained about a dozen things in the past two minutes....I want you to know that I am going to hang up now. I am not willing to listen to your complaints any longer today." Then say goodbye, do not wait for a response and hang up...Do not answer if she calls back. Tough to do, I know.
You have a difficult assignment. Bottom line as I see it: Mom, won't change, but you can draw a line and if you decide to, you can stick to it.
"Bless them, change me" is a good prayer.
Grace + Peace,
Bob