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My 77 year old grandma is looking to sell her $150k house. It's paid off. Will she still qualify for Medicaid after the sale? I saw an article that said she can't have more than $2,000 in cash to qualify.
She can qualify while she owns the house, but not with the cash from the sale of the house. After the $150,000 is gone and she is down to $2,000 (which doesn't take as long as you might expect, given the costs of care) then she may be eligible again.
Where is your grandmother planning to live once she has sold her house, Kyle?
If she is moving into a facility, the fees will rip through that $150K so fast it'll make your head swim; and then once she has gone below the threshold she will be able to apply for Medicaid. If this is the plan, it would be sensible to check in advance that the facility is set up for Medicaid-funded residents.
If she is moving in with a family member, then the finances still want careful planning. No matter how loving and supportive the family, living still costs money and so will her future care.
Or, is she buying another house or apartment? I don't know the answer to this: if Grandma spends her $150K on a new residence, and thus has no capital left to speak of and meets the income criteria, will she then be able to apply for Medicaid? - other forum members will know.
She will lose Medicaid if she gifts the proceeds. Many people living with a boyfriend end up in nursing home when care needs get too great. And Medicaid looks back 5 years to see if you gifted away money you can use for care. Is family who receives and spends money going to house her? Better Check to see if Medicaid already expects to be repaid from proceeds of house if sold. The asset of house is only exempt until she tries to sell it.
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APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
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We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour.
APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
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Community Medicaid or Nursing homes Medicaid?
What State?
Is there a spouse?
If she is moving into a facility, the fees will rip through that $150K so fast it'll make your head swim; and then once she has gone below the threshold she will be able to apply for Medicaid. If this is the plan, it would be sensible to check in advance that the facility is set up for Medicaid-funded residents.
If she is moving in with a family member, then the finances still want careful planning. No matter how loving and supportive the family, living still costs money and so will her future care.
Or, is she buying another house or apartment? I don't know the answer to this: if Grandma spends her $150K on a new residence, and thus has no capital left to speak of and meets the income criteria, will she then be able to apply for Medicaid? - other forum members will know.
So if she sells her house and gives them the proceeds now, instead of letting the court handle when she dies, she loses medicaid?
She lives in Nevada, will be moving in with a long-time boyfriend, and does not plan to move to a nursing home.